I gonna tell my opinion about the most noob weapon ever,or commonly named the “Promethean pistol”,this weapon charged is a shotgun,you knowif you ate the plasma pistol,you gonna hate more this weapon,seriously,imagine my situation,map Solace,CTF,ALL the enemy team camping and using that weapon,if you was in my situation you gonna hate it too (you know,Solace isnt a open map,the map has places to cover you everywhere,if you go with a weapon like the DMR (I only use that weapon and 3 or 4 more) and the guy of the flag and another nooob with that weapon kill you (If you use jetpack it kill you too,like the noob technique of the plasma pistol charge and headshot) seriously,the promethean weapons are OP
I disagree with saying it’s “the most noob gun ever”. It isn’t as easy to use the shotgun-esque blast as you make it out to be, the person has to be really damn close to you, and if you’re using a DMR, you shouldn’t be charging someone like that anyway. It’s also a lot more inaccurate then a regular shotgun in terms of distance. Granted, I use the Boltshot one a couple of my loadouts, but it’s not like I only use that and get kills with it like none other.
Yeah,very close to me,tell it to the players who kill’d me like a sniper with that weapon,if you are good using the radar,you can kill with the shotgun blast perfectly
Boltshot Charge has a rough range of 1.5 to 2 times the range of melee lunge. It takes about a full second to charge it and after that a good two or three seconds to charge again. Once charged it will go off with or without hitting a target in about 3 seconds.
So it is only a bit further then melee, has a delay, needs to be timed properly AND has a poor follow up short of maybe swapping for an AR or BR.
Stop being bad. You can tell when someone is using it. Use that to defend yourself. You don’t run up to hugging distance of someone with a shotgun or scattershot. Don’t do it against someone with a Boltshot.
> Yeah,very close to me,tell it to the players who kill’d me like a sniper with that weapon,if you are good using the radar,you can kill with the shotgun blast perfectly
Record a Video of someone sniping you from far off with the Boltshot charge or give up. That is a bold faced lie.
I agree the weapon is quite OP since it is a 1-shot secondary weapon that can be part of ANY loadout. It is almost like the shotguns in Gears given how easy it is to learn to use and gib. Make the majority of combat turn to Boltshot charge shot retorts or ambushes. The fact that anyone can have that power right from the start is the “noobish” part. I would rather have it as a pickup/ordinance weapon instead if 343i does not want to re-balance it.
if it bothers you that bad, use promethean vision and stop walking around corners where people are sitting. they cant use the boltshot to kill you if you dont walk up to them and let it happen. learn to halo please.
there should never be a OHK weapon in a preset, its like having a default sniper and saying dont go out in the open so you can get sniped.
If anything, make the charging take up ammo. As it stands right now, you can charge and uncharge if they dont come up, and keep doing that until they do. While plasma pistol, if you charge the ammo starts depleting from the getgo.
> there should never be a OHK weapon in a preset, its like having a default sniper and saying dont go out in the open so you can get sniped.
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> If anything, make the charging take up ammo. As it stands right now, you can charge and uncharge if they dont come up, and keep doing that until they do. While plasma pistol, if you charge the ammo starts depleting from the getgo.
But it isn’t like having a default sniper. Most maps are very open. A default sniper would be too good.
This weapon is like a Shotgun. Only a small number of places force you into melee range and those places can be avoided.
Also, you can’t uncharge unless it is in the first few moments of the charge up. If you do and then they charge the corner it delays your shot like crazy. Also, once its charge hits peak you have to weapon swap to kill the charge which delays you even further.
I don’t think that the Boltshot is OP.
Just like Phynixblack said.
I heard all the guys saying it was op so I tried it myself and I have to say I really think it’s ok. Sure I got a couple of kills but I found I got killed more while trying to get the super kill with it. I prefer the plasma because it is more usefull as charge takes down enemy shileds and vehicles.
> > there should never be a OHK weapon in a preset, its like having a default sniper and saying dont go out in the open so you can get sniped.
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> > If anything, make the charging take up ammo. As it stands right now, you can charge and uncharge if they dont come up, and keep doing that until they do. While plasma pistol, if you charge the ammo starts depleting from the getgo.
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> But it isn’t like having a default sniper. Most maps are very open. A default sniper would be too good.
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> This weapon is like a Shotgun. Only a small number of places force you into melee range and those places can be avoided.
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> Also, you can’t uncharge unless it is in the first few moments of the charge up. If you do and then they charge the corner it delays your shot like crazy. Also, once its charge hits peak you have to weapon swap to kill the charge which delays you even further.
Anyway I would not want a player to have a shotgun either as an initial loadout. OHK/power weapons should be either ordinance or picked up or everyone is forced to have in their loadout so that everyone is on a balanced playing field.
The fact that it is considered on par with the other secondary weapons like the magnum and plasma pistol is just crazy as neither have an OHK.
ive been killed from shotgun range (previous halos, not the huge range of halo 4s) from the boltshot. You cant let people start with an instikill weapon at any range. Period.
> Anyway I would not want a player to have a shotgun either as an initial loadout. OHK/power weapons should be either ordinance or picked up or everyone is forced to have in their loadout so that everyone is on a balanced playing field.
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> The fact that it is considered on par with the other secondary weapons like the magnum and plasma pistol is just crazy as neither have an OHK.
They have different abilities that make them equal. Magnum is ridiculously accurate at range in comparison and the Plasma Pistol makes most vehicles a joke. Both of those things are just as good as spawning with a few shots worth of a shotgun attack.
> > Anyway I would not want a player to have a shotgun either as an initial loadout. OHK/power weapons should be either ordinance or picked up or everyone is forced to have in their loadout so that everyone is on a balanced playing field.
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> > The fact that it is considered on par with the other secondary weapons like the magnum and plasma pistol is just crazy as neither have an OHK.
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> They have different abilities that make them equal. Magnum is ridiculously accurate at range in comparison and the Plasma Pistol makes most vehicles a joke. Both of those things are just as good as spawning with a few shots worth of a shotgun attack.
The difference is that the Pistol requires skill to use, the Plasma pistol isa temporary disable and doesnt result in the immediate death of anyone (well,i PPed a flaming warthog earlier and got the kills…so idk).
Both require skill and intelligence to use properly, something the BS doesnt have (BS seems an appropriate name for it.). A ~1 second charge time gives it a significant faster kill time then many starting weapons which is unacceptable.
> > They have different abilities that make them equal. Magnum is ridiculously accurate at range in comparison and the Plasma Pistol makes most vehicles a joke. Both of those things are just as good as spawning with a few shots worth of a shotgun attack.
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> The difference is that the Pistol requires skill to use, the Plasma pistol isa temporary disable and doesnt result in the immediate death of anyone (well,i PPed a flaming warthog earlier and got the kills…so idk).
> Both require skill and intelligence to use properly, something the BS doesnt have (BS seems an appropriate name for it.). A ~1 second charge time gives it a significant faster kill time then many starting weapons which is unacceptable.
Exactly, BS is BS and OP.
It is still OP to be part of the initial loadout (still works as a good hybrid shotgun/magnum power weapon). Neither of the other secondary weapons have a OHK option from the start and they really should not in regular game types.
Like I said, Boltshot should be relegated to ordinance (like the Needler), pickup on the battlefield (like every other power weapon), or included as part of a default loadout in a game type made for it (like Team Snipers for example)
Through 155 games I have 5 kills with the Boltshot and have died 4 times to it. Please stop exagerating, if you play smart it really isn’t an issue.
> Boltshot Charge has a rough range of 1.5 to 2 times the range of melee lunge. It takes about a full second to charge it and after that a good two or three seconds to charge again. Once charged it will go off with or without hitting a target in about 3 seconds.
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> So it is only a bit further then melee, has a delay, needs to be timed properly AND has a poor follow up short of maybe swapping for an AR or BR.
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> Stop being bad. You can tell when someone is using it. Use that to defend yourself. You don’t run up to hugging distance of someone with a shotgun or scattershot. Don’t do it against someone with a Boltshot.
Nothing more really needs to be said than this. I’d post my own opinion, but I’d basically be restating this…
My opinion, as a user and hater of it’s power (have used/do use it but don’t abuse it. I still think an actual shotgun should beat you) is that there should be a louder noise for a charge up shot that a player can hear so it’s more their fault if they walk around a corner into instant death.
The time to charge is a definite disadvantage but it doesn’t take long to master it either. At least if there was a noise attached to it, it wouldn’t be so cheap.
It teaches players what most MLG buffs know:
Don’t chase kills, don’t charge in.