Sword block… Or lack thereof and a few other things related to it.
Now before you rage hear me out, the sword block I felt was added in reach to stop people from using sprint/evade with it from becoming a total juggernaut.
It takes a lot more timing and practice to get a block than to get an easy sprint kill with the sword.
Now everyone in 4 will have sprint and with what I’ve seen so for the shotgun has been buffed with a longer range and tighter spread, the sword seems to lunge like halo 3, and the scattershot is just totally BA.
I’m just a little worried with everyone having sprint they will be able to close the gap and kill you with these weapons with ease…
Thoughts?
Keep it civil
Yeah, lets put implement rocket block too! And splatter block! And assassination block! And shotgun block! And plasma grenade block! And scorpion block! And sp-laser block! And most importantly, sun block!
But seriously, sword block was a horrible mechanic. It’s a power weapon, its supposed to be over-powered. Besides, you slow to pretty much normal run speed when taking fire while sprinting now.
Edit: It also takes no practice at all, I get random sword blocks all of the time without even trying.
> Yeah, lets put implement rocket block too! And splatter block! And assassination block! And shotgun block! And plasma grenade block! And scorpion block! And sp-laser block! And most importantly, <mark>sun block</mark>!
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> But seriously, sword block was a horrible mechanic. It’s a power weapon, its supposed to be over-powered. Besides, you slow to pretty much normal run speed when taking fire while sprinting now.
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> Edit: It also takes no practice at all, I get random sword blocks all of the time without even trying.
Love It.
hearing from what people say that have actually played the game they kind of contradict what you say.
The sword lunge has been nerfed to where calling it a lunge is stretching it now.
The shotgun is not a one or even a two shot kill from a close/mid range. You now have to be point blank to get an instant kill now.
> Yeah, lets put implement rocket block too! And splatter block! And assassination block! And shotgun block! And plasma grenade block! And scorpion block! And sp-laser block! And most importantly, sun block!
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> But seriously, sword block was a horrible mechanic. It’s a power weapon, its supposed to be over-powered. Besides, you slow to pretty much normal run speed when taking fire while sprinting now.
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> Edit: It also takes no practice at all, I get random sword blocks all of the time without even trying.
It was nice considering the bulltrue was total crap and you died anyways every time.
I didn’t say anything about blocking the other things.
And if you actually tried to do it most of the time you get killed regardless.
> > Yeah, lets put implement rocket block too! And splatter block! And assassination block! And shotgun block! And plasma grenade block! And scorpion block! And sp-laser block! And most importantly, <mark>sun block</mark>!
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> > But seriously, sword block was a horrible mechanic. It’s a power weapon, its supposed to be over-powered. Besides, you slow to pretty much normal run speed when taking fire while sprinting now.
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> > Edit: It also takes no practice at all, I get random sword blocks all of the time without even trying.
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> Love It.
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> hearing from what people say that have actually played the game they kind of contradict what you say.
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> The sword lunge has been nerfed to where calling it a lunge is stretching it now.
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> The shotgun is not a one or even a two shot kill from a close/mid range. You now have to be point blank to get an instant kill now.
Did you watch the guy in the human weapon video? Not point blank and getting instant kills.
I don’t really see what the first half of your post has to do with the second half, but I’ll try and be helpful.
Yes, the swordblock is gone. Mostly because it cause many kills that shouldn’t be prevented to be cheaply blocked, and at least half of the time giving the person who blocks a kill or second life.
Sure, everyone has sprint now. however, its not the same as reach. for one, the speed boost is only about 80%, rather than a full 2x speed. 2, you slow down considerably when being shot at, even to the point where regular walking is faster. this means that you can effectively stop anybody sprinting at you with a sword or hammer. I think this in itself balances the sprint+sword combo.
If sword block was so great, why did they remove it in the TU? Hardly anyone liked sword block, so they removed it. You shouldn’t be able to block a sword with anything but another sword. Even in a video game, it only makes sense.
> I don’t really see what the first half of your post has to do with the second half, but I’ll try and be helpful.
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> Yes, the swordblock is gone. Mostly because it cause many kills that shouldn’t be prevented to be cheaply blocked, and at least half of the time giving the person who blocks a kill or second life.
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> Sure, everyone has sprint now. however, its not the same as reach. for one, the speed boost is only about 80%, rather than a full 2x speed. 2, you slow down considerably when being shot at, even to the point where regular walking is faster. this means that you can effectively stop anybody sprinting at you with a sword or hammer. I think this in itself balances the sprint+sword combo.
I’d love to hear your source that says it’s gone.
Looking at your stats, you have 619 kills with the sword. Be honest, how many times out of these were blocked, and out of that (no doubt very, very miniscule) number, how many lived longer than a quarter of a second afterward when you lunged again?
Sword block is fine. It gives the one-in-a-thousand guy skilled enough to use the split-second advantage a chance to escape, and even then, the chance is small.
This is just a case of complaining for the sake of complaining, really.
Sword block has no place in Halo 4… I’m sure most players would agree with me.
> > I don’t really see what the first half of your post has to do with the second half, but I’ll try and be helpful.
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> > Yes, the swordblock is gone. Mostly because it cause many kills that shouldn’t be prevented to be cheaply blocked, and at least half of the time giving the person who blocks a kill or second life.
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> > Sure, everyone has sprint now. however, its not the same as reach. for one, the speed boost is only about 80%, rather than a full 2x speed. 2, you slow down considerably when being shot at, even to the point where regular walking is faster. this means that you can effectively stop anybody sprinting at you with a sword or hammer. I think this in itself balances the sprint+sword combo.
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> <mark>I’d love to hear your source that says it’s gone.</mark>
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> Looking at your stats, you have 619 kills with the sword. Be honest, how many times out of these were blocked, and out of that (no doubt very, very miniscule number), how many lived longer than a quarter of a second afterward when you lunged again?
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> Sword block is fine. <mark>It gives the one-in-a-thousand guy skilled enough to use the split-second advantage a chance to escape, and even then, the chance is small.</mark>
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> This is just a case of complaining for the sake of complaining, really.
343 took it out of Reach. They obviously don’t like it either.
Sword block doesn’t take skill. It just takes a lucky reflex melee. You shouldn’t get a chance to counter the sword. You should have just gotten the sword yourself.
> > > I don’t really see what the first half of your post has to do with the second half, but I’ll try and be helpful.
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> > > Yes, the swordblock is gone. Mostly because it cause many kills that shouldn’t be prevented to be cheaply blocked, and at least half of the time giving the person who blocks a kill or second life.
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> > > Sure, everyone has sprint now. however, its not the same as reach. for one, the speed boost is only about 80%, rather than a full 2x speed. 2, you slow down considerably when being shot at, even to the point where regular walking is faster. this means that you can effectively stop anybody sprinting at you with a sword or hammer. I think this in itself balances the sprint+sword combo.
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> > <mark>I’d love to hear your source that says it’s gone.</mark>
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> > Looking at your stats, you have 619 kills with the sword. Be honest, how many times out of these were blocked, and out of that (no doubt very, very miniscule number), how many lived longer than a quarter of a second afterward when you lunged again?
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> > Sword block is fine. <mark>It gives the one-in-a-thousand guy skilled enough to use the split-second advantage a chance to escape, and even then, the chance is small.</mark>
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> > This is just a case of complaining for the sake of complaining, really.
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> 343 took it out of Reach. They obviously don’t like it either.
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> Sword block doesn’t take skill. It just takes a lucky reflex melee. You shouldn’t get a chance to counter the sword. You should have just gotten the sword yourself.
It does take skill. You have to time your melee just right, and then have the quick-thinking to either escape or counterattack in the tiny window of opportunity it provides. But then, I’d bet nobody complaining about it sees that. All they see is that one time out of a thousand someone actually managed to beat them close-range with a sword and decided it must therefore be a bad mechanic.
Like a said: complaining to complain.
Lol if you want to think I’m “complaining to complain” go ahead and be wrong. I’m not stopping you. We might as well have a 1 in 10 chance at deflecting rockets. Or any other 1-hit-kill for that matter. It takes no skill sir. I don’t see people bragging about their sword blocking abilities. It’s just a spontaneous occurrence that happens out of chance. It has no place in a video game. You say it takes skill and timing. Tell me… do you ever practice sword blocking? Do you develop the ability to sword block? No, it just happens because you luckily melee at the right time.
> Lol if you want to think I’m “complaining to complain” go ahead and be wrong. I’m not stopping you. We might as well have a 1 in 10 chance at deflecting rockets. Or any other 1-hit-kill for that matter. It takes no skill sir. I don’t see people bragging about their sword blocking abilities. It’s just a spontaneous occurrence that happens out of chance. It has no place in a video game. You say it takes skill and timing. Tell me… do you ever practice sword blocking? Do you develop the ability to sword block? No, it just happens because you luckily melee at the right time.
That’s a really stupid way to put it. I’ll admit, there are a few valid arguments against the mechanic, but yours isn’t one of them.
It takes quick-thinking and level-headedness to get out of a close-range fight with a sword-wielder alive. If you don’t have either, you’re either stabbed again while trying to think what to do next or while you’re flailing around in a panic trying to get away. If you can’t see that, there’s really no point in you posting here.
I don’t think it’ll be a huge problem since everyone has sprint and everyone is able to flee from battle in addition you have the hardlight shield which can be used to block the sword.If you add that to the sword block and stickys and other stuff, theres plenty of ways to stop someone whos charging at you with a sword
> I don’t think it’ll be a huge problem since everyone has sprint and everyone is able to flee from battle in addition you have the hardlight shield which can be used to block the sword.If you add that to the sword block and stickys and other stuff, theres plenty of ways to stop someone whos charging at you with a sword
I din’t know the shield could block a sword lunge. If it can that seems like a fair counter if you don’t have a shotgun or something
you all DO know that it is possible to essentially knock the sword lunge to a place that wouldn’t kill you… hence the effectiveness of the sword block. and this is how it works in real life… a guy with just his fists can still fight a guy with a sword… its all in the fighting style. and spartan’s, well, i shouldn’t even have to go into that… brush up on your halo fiction dudes. sword rejections are completely canon and legit.
> > Lol if you want to think I’m “complaining to complain” go ahead and be wrong. I’m not stopping you. We might as well have a 1 in 10 chance at deflecting rockets. Or any other 1-hit-kill for that matter. It takes no skill sir. I don’t see people bragging about their sword blocking abilities. It’s just a spontaneous occurrence that happens out of chance. It has no place in a video game. You say it takes skill and timing. Tell me… do you ever practice sword blocking? Do you develop the ability to sword block? No, it just happens because you luckily melee at the right time.
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> That’s a really stupid way to put it. I’ll admit, there are a few valid arguments against the mechanic, but yours isn’t one of them.
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> It takes quick-thinking and level-headedness to get out of a close-range fight with a sword-wielder alive. If you don’t have either, you’re either stabbed again while trying to think what to do next or while you’re flailing around in a panic trying to get away. If you can’t see that, there’s really no point in you posting here.
Are you kidding me? You must either be horrible at the game and feel good when you manage to pull of a lucky sword block or you simply don’t know what a power weapon is supposed to do. Actually, it’s probably both.
The Energy Sword is a power weapon. Its main purpose is to be overpowered at close quarters, with a downfall. That downfall is being only effective at close quarters. Power weapons aren’t supposed to have lucky moves that the victim can pull off that allows him to attempt an escape. Sword block has no reason to exist. Which is why 343 removed it in the TU and why it’s not in Halo 4.
It doesn’t take skill, it takes luck. Period. End of story. If it took skill, there would be people who could block the sword every single time. But there aren’t. No one has that kind of millisecond-timing. Escaping doesn’t take skill either. Turn around and run away or Spray whatever gun is in my hand while the sword user in confused at what just happened Man, you must be one good Halo player. /sarcasm
Was there an actual reason for why the energy sword could cut through a few inches of titanium armor, but a gun, any gun, damn well not as strong as titanium, can block a sword, so long as the guy holding it is lucky enough to manage a block?
I think an armor mod could suit this situation. But with just a gun, people should not be sword blocking.
> you all DO know that it is possible to essentially knock the sword lunge to a place that wouldn’t kill you… hence the effectiveness of the sword block. and this is how it works in real life… a guy with just his fists can still fight a guy with a sword… its all in the fighting style. and spartan’s, well, i shouldn’t even have to go into that… brush up on your halo fiction dudes. sword rejections are completely canon and legit.
So a sword that, any other time, would go right through me, or any other object for that matter, can be stopped with the thrust of my elbow? Sorry, I don’t know where you get your cannon from.