my first 2v2 game, gg kihz n swatmerk

This was my first time matchmaking 2v2, playing with garret, running forge arbi on beasleys plataue, and i was playing on a 18 inch tv. VS Kihz and Swatmerk who together have a combined game count of 10,000+ in 2v2, compete in tourni’s, claim to be the best 2v2 “cutter” and went ultra try-hard on remakes just for 2v2.

The game was actually really simple from the start, it was all about “set-up” n “delivery”. Every time we set a trap, they took the bate. First since they 2x hogs and could of easily taken the building spots, i had garrets ghost damage thier hogs so a ram would kill them. Then I sent my 3 gunnerless hogs to thier side of the base and manage to ram 2 to death. I lost 2 but had 2 left when i got gunner. More then killing thier hogs it caused them to run back to thier side then around the map, given us time to take out on map building spots with ease. The tried kill the on map pads after with the left over hogs +building the on map turret but failed and just spent alot of money on it. Since we where able to get the anders on map building hooks, we had the lead. The arbi went banshees and harassed the anders forcing her to build wolves (which we wanted to get the tank lead) and then sent his arbi over to defend my 2 on map pads next to the anders. This was really inportant because it forced them to use a d-bomb and bring all thier early units to defend the anders base. When i saw all of kihz units went to support swat merk, I hit his base with my 3 first tanks. He only had 4 supply pads and 1 VD with no on map building hooks. Since his and ander tanks had to come back all the way to other side to defend kihz base now I had time to destroy his 3 upgraded pads and vd. He was left with 1 pad and his vd building before his army came back and defeated my 3 tanks (the only tanks the killed all game). While I was attacking with the 1st 3 tanks I kept 2x pumping and clearing the expos on our side. So my arbi was able to get 400 crates mid game and i had an expo way before them. They then tried to hit the arbis base but he had a shield they used a dbomb right when the arbi retreated. But I managed to severly out micro them and i killed both their tank armies without losing a unit. With 6 canni tanks I killed 8 cani tanks without losing a single unit They then resigned when they saw i had PT shortly after.

I just think its funny that Kihz calls himself the 1# Cutter and proclaims he better then me in 2’s then loses this badly. After the game he claimed “leader screw” but we won that game due to tactics, deception, timing, micro and teamwork. None of those can be developed with grinding 10,000 games also none of things require any amount of games to develop, its called natural talent. This kinda proves the arguement that natural talent will always beat out grinded skill. I mean they counldnt even kill 1 of my cani tanks with 2 armies of cani.

http://www.halowars.com/stats/StatsGame.aspx?Id=75492602-7933-6400-7440-000000000000

It was funny they claimed “leader screw” because we had an arbi. But the arbi didnt even kill a tank, only 2 wolves and a couple of hogs. Literally after 6 minutes he didnt kill a single unit. I just had far better micro when they attacked and even though they had 2 armies and 3 more tanks i managed to roflstomp without losing a unit. This game had nothing to do with leader screw, more of natural talent vs grind’d skill

You did have an advantage since air is important on that map. However, there’s no excuse for losing that many tanks.

forge is really strong on that map when used correctly; like you did.

I don’t know anything about Halo Wars and I enjoyed reading this. Just thought I’d let you know that lol.

> I don’t know anything about Halo Wars and I enjoyed reading this. Just thought I’d let you know that lol.

the…third one?

classy…

Gears… Can you ever stay positive? I see so many of your posts where you constantly call people out to either troll, flame, or just fight on your forums posts. Please go to Lazyfrog or another forum if you are constantly going to call out people and talk trash about a player.

Grow up dude.

I think we’ve just found the next Halo Wars legend…

They were obviously leader screwed… Swat Merk doesn’t play UNSC at all, and Forge is arguably the best unsc on that map. I’m willing to bet if they had any covy and any unsc they would have wiped the floor with you.

One lucky win and you run to post the links on waypoint… I think we have the next kihz…

> It was funny they claimed “leader screw” because we had an arbi. But the arbi didnt even kill a tank, only 2 wolves and a couple of hogs. Literally after 6 minutes he didnt kill a single unit. I just had far better micro when they attacked and even though they had 2 armies and 3 more tanks i managed to roflstomp without losing a unit. This game had nothing to do with leader screw, more of natural talent vs grind’d skill

An arby is going to do a lot of damage to tanks, whether they kill them or not. Not to mention they have to pay for d-bombs, every d-bomb is -1 tanks they could have produced. I would guess rather than “out micro” the arby and banshee dropped most of the tanks to red bar and you came in with a half decent micro and was able to kill all of their tanks because they had used/attempted to use their cannys on the arbiter. If you really think you’re good I suggest you challenge them to a mirror match, instead of posting links of leader screws.

> This was my first time matchmaking 2v2

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Ahalowars.com%2Fstats+wild+arms+2v2

> > This was my first time matchmaking 2v2
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> LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You

Hasn’t played any in the past four/five months.

> Gears… Can you ever stay positive? I see so many of your posts where you constantly call people out to either troll, flame, or just fight on your forums posts. Please go to Lazyfrog or another forum if you are constantly going to call out people and talk trash about a player.
>
> Grow up dude.

lol quite raging on my thread because i disagreed with you about the game-add ons, lol grow-up. Everyone was making fun of you about that thread, not just me…

People like to read threads discussing high level games, that why they complimented me for posting it. I have also gotten more friend requests then I can handle from people reading\liking my threads and wanting to more advice. Maybe you should find somewhere new.

> > It was funny they claimed “leader screw” because we had an arbi. But the arbi didnt even kill a tank, only 2 wolves and a couple of hogs. Literally after 6 minutes he didnt kill a single unit. I just had far better micro when they attacked and even though they had 2 armies and 3 more tanks i managed to roflstomp without losing a unit. This game had nothing to do with leader screw, more of natural talent vs grind’d skill
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> An arby is going to do a lot of damage to tanks, whether they kill them or not. Not to mention they have to pay for d-bombs, every d-bomb is -1 tanks they could have produced. I would guess rather than “out micro” the arby and banshee dropped most of the tanks to red bar and you came in with a half decent micro and was able to kill all of their tanks because they had used/attempted to use their cannys on the arbiter. If you really think you’re good I suggest you challenge them to a mirror match, instead of posting links of leader screws.

Ok so I need to rematch to make it fair? Because my leader advantage obviously out weighed kihz and swat merks 10,000 games of experience over me. “Leader screw” is just a term kids use when they cant admit loss, halo wars isnt that unbalanced.

Basically what your saying is if Mighty Icy played another 8,000 games with brute and then played boost freak playing prophet in his first game of 1’s on chasm, then it would be an easy game for boost freak and when mighty icy loss’s it has nothing to do with skill but leader screw…

BTW- I asked kihz for a rematch last night, he didnt want to

> classy…

> > > This was my first time matchmaking 2v2
> >
> > LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You
>
> Hasn’t played any in the past four/five months.

Lol more like a year +, look at those dates. I never MM on Gears and have less then 20 games played all time in 2v2. But just ignore him, Mike will post to everyone of my threads. Hes been stalking me for a long time now. I just stomp him in MM and laugh. He one of those kids who has 8,000 games but never made it high level.

> I think we’ve just found the next Halo Wars legend…

Unlike you and the BH clan, I dont lose to kids like kihz…

Is this some sort of joke?

Me and “Swat Merk” were running RANDOM ALL on two new accounts we’re using to mock Fuzion.
Random All =/= Tryhard.

You have a very deluded memory of the game Random Arms. You sent your 4 gunnerless hogs over to our side, we killed all of the except one that we red barred and you killed nothing. You proceeded to get gunner anyway, and managed to continue to get massively out-hogged. We had 3/4 pairs of hooks until the Arbiter came at “Swat Merks” and gave them to you, a Forge who doesn’t have to upgrade his supply pads. Forge should never get out-tanked on Beasley’s if you have any high level experience at all.

Your Arbiter went fast Banshees, like a covy should on that map. We had to go wolves to counter it. You pushed up on my base with 11 Banshees and two canny tanks. We had 2 non-canny, 2 wolves, and 3 canny on the other side of the map. By the time we got to my base to defend it, you had killed 3 pads off it. We pushed your pathetic army off and pushed on the Arbiters base. We were in the Mid game which is where Forges economy steam rolls. You had 6 tanks to our 7, but we had to d-bomb and worry about Banshees. We killed every pad on the Arbiters base but lost everything doing it since we didn’t target your tanks in an unwinable situation. That’s why we targeted the pads.

Never in the game did you out micro anyone.

Never did you challenge me to a rematch.

Get your BEST team mate online today, and I’ll gladly run a real combo and spank you as many times as you’d like.

That’s a challenge, Random Arms.

> Is this some sort of joke?
>
> Me and “Swat Merk” were running RANDOM ALL on two new accounts we’re using to mock Fuzion.
> Random All =/= Tryhard.
>
> You have a very deluded memory of the game Random Arms. You sent your 4 gunnerless hogs over to our side, we killed all of the except one that we red barred and you killed nothing. You proceeded to get gunner anyway, and managed to continue to get massively out-hogged. We had 3/4 pairs of hooks until the Arbiter came at “Swat Merks” and gave them to you, a Forge who doesn’t have to upgrade his supply pads. Forge should never get out-tanked on Beasley’s if you have any high level experience at all.
>
> Your Arbiter went fast Banshees, like a covy should on that map. We had to go wolves to counter it. You pushed up on my base with 11 Banshees and two canny tanks. We had 2 non-canny, 2 wolves, and 3 canny on the other side of the map. By the time we got to my base to defend it, you had killed 3 pads off it. We pushed your pathetic army off and pushed on the Arbiters base. We were in the Mid game which is where Forges economy steam rolls. You had 6 tanks to our 7, but we had to d-bomb and worry about Banshees. We killed every pad on the Arbiters base but lost everything doing it since we didn’t target your tanks in an unwinable situation. That’s why we targeted the pads.
>
> That’s a challenge, Random Arms.

LOL, NOW YOUR CLAIMING RANDOM ALL. Sure Random All = Cutter your 1# played leader

Second off you never had hook lead or hog lead. I lost 2 at the beginning but had you guys chasing me around the map till 3 minutes. You never took my hook at any point in the game and only killed 1 pad at the arbi’s hook while he was securing swat merks for me. He then recalled and raged all of your hogs done leaving swatmerk to get out hog’s and pushed off of my hook. You then built 3 turrets at each hook wasting 750. I produced 7 hogs and each of you only 4, once yours got raged down i killed swat and had hog lead. Never did you kill a single pad on either of our bases, secure a hook, or do anything of offensive worth early game. Im not sure if you have convinced yourself of your delusions or if you’re lieing to try and save face. Never in that game did you secure our hooks, but i had swats hooks forcing youre units across the map. Leaving your base wide open do strip down. I totally agree with you’re combo arguement, if you dont do what you need to do with you’re hogs to slow them down then yeah Forge\Arbi will be unstopable. But there is no reason why I should just be able to take my hook and build on my base unchallenged, thats your mistake. The game stats clearly back up everything I stated.

Its funny even on Lazy Frog you’re “homesite” everyone is making fun of you for how bad you played that game. I would repeat what they said, but i dont want to get banned.

Its funny how you’re so brave now but last night refused to play me…

BTW-As for “Forge should never get out-tanked on Beasley’s if you have any high level experience at all” Well I dont have any high level experience with forge, at all. Literally less then 5 games played with him in 2’s my entire HW’s career and never on the map. Never have I played him on that map. Vs you who claims to be the 2v2 1# Cutter…

> > Is this some sort of joke?
> >
> > Me and “Swat Merk” were running RANDOM ALL on two new accounts we’re using to mock Fuzion.
> > Random All =/= Tryhard.
> >
> > You have a very deluded memory of the game Random Arms. You sent your 4 gunnerless hogs over to our side, we killed all of the except one that we red barred and you killed nothing. You proceeded to get gunner anyway, and managed to continue to get massively out-hogged. We had 3/4 pairs of hooks until the Arbiter came at “Swat Merks” and gave them to you, a Forge who doesn’t have to upgrade his supply pads. Forge should never get out-tanked on Beasley’s if you have any high level experience at all.
> >
> > Your Arbiter went fast Banshees, like a covy should on that map. We had to go wolves to counter it. You pushed up on my base with 11 Banshees and two canny tanks. We had 2 non-canny, 2 wolves, and 3 canny on the other side of the map. By the time we got to my base to defend it, you had killed 3 pads off it. We pushed your pathetic army off and pushed on the Arbiters base. We were in the Mid game which is where Forges economy steam rolls. You had 6 tanks to our 7, but we had to d-bomb and worry about Banshees. We killed every pad on the Arbiters base but lost everything doing it since we didn’t target your tanks in an unwinable situation. That’s why we targeted the pads.
> >
> > That’s a challenge, Random Arms.
>
> LOL, NOW YOUR CLAIMING RANDOM ALL. Sure Random All = Cutter your 1# played leader
>
> Second off you never had hook lead or hog lead. I lost 2 at the beginning but had you guys chasing me around the map till 3 minutes. You never took my hook at any point in the game and only killed 1 pad at the arbi’s hook while he was securing swat merks for me. He then recalled and raged all of your hogs done leaving swatmerk to get out hog’s and pushed off of my hook. You then built 3 turrets at each hook wasting 750. I produced 7 hogs and each of you only 4, once yours got raged down i killed swat and had hog lead. Never did you kill a single pad on either of our bases, secure a hook, or do anything of offensive worth early game. Im not sure if you have convinced yourself of your delusions or if you’re lieing to try and save face. Never in that game did you secure our hooks, but i had swats hooks forcing youre units across the map. Leaving your base wide open do strip down. I totally agree with you’re combo arguement, if you dont do what you need to do with you’re hogs to slow them down then yeah Forge\Arbi will be unstopable. But there is no reason why I should just be able to take my hook and build on my base unchallenged, thats your mistake. The game stats clearly back up everything I stated.
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> Its funny even on Lazy Frog you’re “homesite” everyone is making fun of you for how bad you played that game. I would repeat what they said, but i dont want to get banned.
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> Its funny how you’re so brave now but last night refused to play me…
>
> BTW-As for “Forge should never get out-tanked on Beasley’s if you have any high level experience at all” Well I dont have any high level experience with forge, at all. Literally less then 5 games played with him in 2’s my entire HW’s career and never on the map. Never have I played him on that map. Vs you who claims to be the 2v2 1# Cutter…

I’m going to tell you this one time and one time only so PLEASE listen closely.

your:
“your” means belonging to you.

you’re:
“you’re” is a contraction of “you are”.

Replace every “you’re” with “you are” and re-read that last post.

Now that that’s out of the way, let’s get started.

You’re a really bad liar. Seriously, a terrible one. Random All = 1/6th chance to get ANY leader. Cutter falls into the category ‘Any’. When have you ever seen Swat Merk, provided that account is Swat Merk, run Anders? Why would we wanna be tryhard on two accounts made to mock other people AND run a bad combo? When you think logically, it’s not hard to see.

As for the game, neither of us have any way of proving what happened in the game. It’s your words vs. mine. Some will believe me, others will believe you. I told my side, I honestly don’t care about yours.

I like how you ignored my direct challenge to you. What does that show everyone on this site? It shows you’re backing down cause you know what would happen in a situation where I have a real combo. The only people on my ‘homesite’ that are saying anything bad about me are the trolls that never liked me. All of the people that know what they’re talking about said it was a massive, almost insurmountable leader screw.

Now, like I said before, play me in a real 2v2 or shut up. You get your only teams win on me ever and come running to the Waypoint forums with it? Pathetic.