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Please, please, please have the original backgrounds be options(CE, 2, 3, ODST, 3 Mythic). And allow these to be mix and matched, for example, I’d like the background in the Campaign select section to change depending on which title is currently hovered over, I’d like the ODST main menu of Rookie sleeping or the H3 loading screen to be my background while searching in matchmaking, I’d like CE’s main menu to be the CGB background etc.
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Take this opportunity to finally replace the hideous ‘Compose Match’ banner drawing and allow the option of changing the current H4 themed UI icons to be themed by other titles instead.
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If possible, allow us to create our own menu backgrounds and avatars in Theater Mode and allow the option of displaying your avatar either as well as or instead of your player model in the post game podium.
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Allow players to choose which song(from all soundtracks) plays in the background.
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Make player cards more interesting to look at and in depth.
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Bring back Veto and Party Up and add a Quicksearch(any and all playlists compatible with the current party size).
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The Bioroid armour looks cool af, please make these(and as much of everything else as possible) cross-title.
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If prices are reasonable(i.e. NOT like Infinite), Spartan Points don’t suddenly become super difficult to earn through play and it further incentivizes the Pub team to be allowed to continue fixing, expanding and adding to MCC then I can accept MTX for Spartan Points being added.
Keep being awesome Pub team, I’m looking forward to the big patch!
P.S. Don’t forget all the other things like overhauling H3 Forge.
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I dont understand this concept.
The game is low pop - seemingly below 10k concurrent players. Even if we lied and said it was 10,000, and every single player spent $10 buying Spartan Points, is $100,000 really enough to justify anything in terms of development?
Sure there are whales, but people like myself who play every day have hundreds of unusable spartan points so I’m not incentivized to purchase anything at all.
We paid to own the game, and pay a subscription to play it. Its not like MCC is completely unfunded.
It allows them to make a little money and makes unlocking stuff more accessible for new players without destroying the system and simply giving everything to everyone. While players like you and I likely won’t need to spend anything. Players on PC such as myself don’t need to pay for an XBL subscription btw.
And if we agree the money is negligible, why dont they instead A) increase the earned rewards from challenges or B) reduce the pricing of various items?
Saying the money is negligible is a bit dramatic as we don’t know yet how much it will generate. What if it generates enough to cover the cost of the servers and ongoing committed development? It’s a pretty understandable, inoffensive, low risk approach to making customization accessible to new players. We’re already way beyond the original initial customization options of these games anyway and they’re continuing - which is awesome, especially if they do more lore friendly content along with the novelty stuff.
They’re not forgetting what’s important; fixing, enhancing, adding. I’m very happy with them. I’ve done flighting and have provided a lot of feedback and they’re actually listening so yeah I think things are going great and the future of MCC is rather exciting. And Infinite has a lot of potential, which fortunately I think it will fulfill, unfortunately not for quite some time it seems - but in the meantime MCC will get better and better.
They’re implementing proper mod support with Steam Workshop - and I’m hoping cream of the crop mod content is officially implemented into MCC for both PC and console, so there’s a continuous stream of content.
Why cant they be transparent and say that? They make it sound like they are doing new players a favor. If theres an issue with the games funding, be honest.
So is increasing rewards given by playing the game. Daily challenges could be an understandable, inoffensive, low risk approach. (Arguably zero risk approach).
I understand players want to give 343 the benefit of the doubt and support them - I have thousands of hours in MCC, of course I love the product. But this doesnt mean I cant criticize this decision and the overall games direction.
If campaign didnt crash every 10-15 minutes in Co-Op for Halo 2.
Or Multi-Team was ever added.
Or the rotational playlist wasnt lazily the same thing every few weeks.
Or the lack of population for ranked playlists was addressed by removing/editing them.
Or broken action sack maps were corrected.
Or AFKs were detected/removed properly.
Then I would be less critical.
It feels like the game has so many simple, non-intrusive changes that can be made that seeing “hey, pay us for customization points” with no acknowledgement of easier fixes seems tone deaf.
This is subjective AF, not everyone likes it nor wants it in every title; a fair amount of people would rather it stays in H2A to give H2A something special as the other games have already recieved more armor for their respective games, controversial or otherwise.
One of the many things I’ve said is that there should be daily challenges, double EXP weekends and a monthly Community Challenge that collectively unlocks something for everyone. I’m not saying there’s no other approach or not to criticize - I’m just making some points and explaining why I’m personally not really concerned. I agree there’s obviously much more important things both big and small that need to be addressed but they seem to be aware of them and are still working on them albeit not as quickly as we’d like.
I’ve been with the series since 2001 and have 1500hrs on MCC PC. I’m very hard on them when it’s deserved.
I think these and as much of everything else as possible/suitable should be cross title, meaning more options for all titles including H2A. So not simply taking to give to H3.
If someone doesn’t like a cosmetic, don’t use it. That being said, I do think there should be much greater focus on lore friendly stuff and the Toggle should be improved by having two settings, ‘Original Stuff Only’ and ‘Original Stuff Plus New Stuff Which Is Lore Friendly’.
Honestly the problem is that in practice only 3 titles work with that concept, as putting them in Reach would lead to the same kind of issue that caused all the controversy in season 8, meanwhile titles like CE, H2C, and ODST functionally cannot handle them without completely overhauling how their respective multiplayer customization works and completely removing the existing assets and intent.
They really do need to focus on content that fits the respective game its going to, the 20th anniversary content was a fantastic example of it being done mostly right. I also agree a toggle explicitly for Fractures content is something that they should add, especially since in Reach, the devs seem insistent on forcing restored legacy content onto the legacy visuals toggle when it shouldn’t be.
Except that’s exactly what the MTX do. Also why didn’t 343 have mtx in MCC back in 2019 when they started adding crazy amounts of content? Simple, because mtx were never needed in the first plac.e
If you can buy SEASON points, then it devalues ALL of the hard work players put into unlocking their gear. And who knows how far 343 will take MTX in MCC if we just roll over and let them add them in the first place.
MCC DOES NOT NEED MTX TO CONTINUE SUPPORT THIS IS A LIE!
I would be okay with most of what you said, if it wasn’t for that last point about microtransactions. It’s not just about how expensive or how cheap they would be (though that’s not an insignificant consideration).
It’s about the principle of the whole thing. Most of us remember when 343 said that they were not going to put in anything purchasable with real world money in the MCC back when they first released Halo Reach on PC. Clearly, that was a lie.
And with how especially egregious the microtransactios have been in Halo Infinite, it should come as no surprise to you that the vast majority of halo fans would be frustrated with 343 trying to push something like this into the MCC. Especially when you think about the fact that MCC has largely acted as a safe haven for players wanting to avoid the malicious price gouging in MODERN GAMING when the value of MCC is at its best, AS IS.
Do not allow for any scenario where microtransactions can be permitted, Heronimon. 343 will just take that as a sign to do so in the absolute worst ways possible. Gone are the days of valuable packs like the Heroic and Legendary Map Pack DLCs that Bungie released for our shared glory. This is the era for overpriced in-game currency.
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I have everything fully unlocked except for like 3 of the annoyingly timed things(2 of which are H4 skins so I don’t even care about those) and stuff yet to be released. As we both know, none of it was difficult to obtain, it has in fact been a rather straight-forward process of periodically unlocking everything - everything that, except for Season 1, was never even in the games to begin with; stuff we didn’t have before and never expected to get. So who cares if some people decide to pay money for stuff we got for free? I have zero desire to gatekeep newly introduced easily obtained(unless you’re new and starting from square one) cosmetic content. Besides, I have 160 Spartan Points ready to go. I really don’t think there’s much to worry about.
Let’s say they do implement MTX super aggressively like in Infinite, is that bad? Sure. It’s certainly not good. But does it really matter though? No, it’s basically completely inconsequential. As it wouldn’t set a precedent because sadly the future of the franchise is apparently already super aggressive MTX.
It’s very possible that their corporate overlords said “WTF why are you guys still spending time fixing and adding to MCC hurry up and stop; we have shades of white to peddle in Infinite!” And very cunningly the Pub Team suggested experimenting with the proposed MTX in MCC so they can continue work on it. I’m not saying I know this is what’s happening but it is very much within the realm of possibility.
So long as everything big and small that needs fixing is fixed and everything that needs to be added is added; Does it really matter that there’s a way to buy easily obtained free cosmetic content that was never in the games to begin with? Not to me.
Hey if you’re just wanting to voice your principles against the greedy cynical nature of the industry and MTX in general, knock yourself out, I have zero issue with that. Just to be clear, you’re talking to someone who still feels ashamed of themselves for buying the Oblivion Horse Armour haha. As for them lying, it’s probably not as simple or nefarious as that. See my above post I feel it pretty much respends to your post too.
The state of Infinite is abysmal and predatory. I don’t even play it and won’t be until it’s redeemed. If they dare do anything else like monetize Forge I’ll permanently uninstall it. I’m well aware of the situation ranging from 2001 to present day. So, I’m not surprised that there’s fear, anger and paranoia - I just don’t share it in this case, so far.
The difference between this and Infinite is that these are old games receiving new content which none of us were even dreaming was a thing that would happen and you can unlock all of it easily for free too. While in Infinite, it is a new game that isn’t even finished which desperately wants to milk you till you bleed, even if it’s something that was in previous titles or the colour white.
P.S. Regarding paid map packs, it was very annoying how it segregated the population due to not everyone having them. We’re getting new unexpected maps for free which is nice and I’m sure they’ll add Reactor, Skybridge and Diamondback(and hopefully more). Waterfall is great. Icebox is great although spawns need some tweaking. Edge isn’t great but it’s not bad, just okay, I probably would’ve added it to Reach not H3.
Honestly, after reading your previous post and this one more carefully, I can understand your points. I have to confess I also spent money on at least other microtransactions. Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War was particularly enticing, given that some weapon packs came with fast mag, increased ammo that basically helped with catching up.
Anyways, you’re right about MCC getting an incredible amount of content, a lot more than any of us were expecting. I can imagine that constantly being paranoid and frustrated is exhausting. I just feel like unless all of us basically shout at the same time saying “No” on something relentlessly, then it feels like 343 will ignore the message and go through with it anyways. I will say to your point about Infinite being newer, I think that it’s because of the way Infinite is that players like myself view MCC as being even more previous than it might have been.
Halo 3 was my first Halo game, and I had started playing maybe a year after it released. I can’t remember exactly, so I guess I hadn’t been fully aware about some of the unintended consequences of paid map packs. Still, I find them a better value than the microtransactions we see in Halo Infinite and others like it.
In any case, I guess we’ll just have to see what 343 does with what the community has been saying about the purchasable “Spartan Points,” whether for or against. And if they do, I wouldn’t bet on them making them an actual fair value. if $5 doesn’t get me 100 season points, then that’s a rip for me.
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Actually, I continue to stand by the fact that 343 lied about them avoiding microtransactions to MCC. Here’s the full quote from ske7ch343:
“First, we’re happy to say that Halo: Reach in MCC will in fact have the same level of “mix and match” customization found in the original games (all the individual armor pieces, etc…). As to how it’s earned, we are exploring a new and deeper progression system that retains the feel of the old systems and blends them with newer models for game progression (all based on in-game play, no type of monetization or anything of that nature)”
This is indisputable evidence. 343 lied.
I’m aware of what was said. I have a firm grasp on the situation from 2001 to present day, as a fan I mean, I’m a nobody I’m not privy to anything behind the scenes. So I completely understand where you and others are coming from and how, especially with the dismal current state of Infinite there’s a snowballing effect of everything negative or perceived to be negative building up to frustrated feelings of wanting to draw a line in the sand. That being said, I defer to and stand by the points I’ve already made.
If it were up to me, I’d do some things differently and some things the same. But it’s not(as much as I wish it was lol). And so as involved and invested as myself or you or others may feel, we simply are not privy to all the goings on. So I’m not comfortable concluding they’re all simply liars or whatever. I think there’s a lot of talented good people at 343i and I’m feeling positive about MCC and hopefully will be able to feel the same about Infinite sooner rather than later.