My complaints to YOU, the community.

Games Other Halo
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It seems like everyday there is alot of complaints lately. I can see why though, BUT I feel like people are allowing past expierience affect their views as to what Halo 4 is. So I will try to defend the game as respectfully as possible instead of bashing it like most, if not all of you have done.

"Halo: Call of Duty"
I must agree on the fact that they did take some things from COD, but this game still feels like Halo. It plays amaazingly well. It may not be Halo 2.5, or Halo 3.5, but it’s a MAJOR step forward from Halo Reach.

P.S The day Halo becomes Call Of Duty, is the day that you can call in a chopper gunner or AC-130 and rain hell from above.

"No Beta" Controversy
You shouldn’t blame 343 for this, you should blame Microsoft. After all they do control everything Xbox related, and most importantly, 343i.

Halo Veterans
When I say Halo Veterans, I mean those who have played Halo Multiplayer since 2004 (or those who played Halo 1 PC). You guys are really allowing your “expierences” to hinder your judgement of future Halo games. My dissapointment in you all is the fact that you want another Halo 2 or 3. That would be major mistake to this franchise all across the board. That being said, I do agree on your “If you bring something new into this game, make sure it works” attitude.

Ranked Playlist
I do agree that there needs to be one, but there should also be a playlist where people can have fun and cool down from frustrating moments. If there’s anything that makes a casual gamer mad, it’s the integration of competitive play all across the board without an option to have fun in the process.

The declinig Population
I will try to make this as obvious as possible…

November 6, 2012 (Halo 4 Launch Day)- An average of 400,000 people online after 4 pm CST.

November 13, 2012 (Black Ops II releases)- An average of 200,000 people online after 4 pm CST.

(Today) November 24, 2012, 1:52 pm CST (Thanksgiving Weekend)- About 100,000 people online.

Conclusion: Other games have come out, this is completly normal.

Feel free to leave your opinions below as I would like to see them. (please be respectful to others)

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Gives you hardlight shield.

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AMEN TO THIS! Someone who isn’t a complainer and likes the game how it is, like me! :smiley:

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" but there should also be a playlist where people can have fun and cool down from frustrating moments. If there’s anything that makes a casual gamer mad, it’s the integration of competitive play all across the board without an option to have fun in the process."

…what? that makes no sense at all. all playlists at the moment are casual

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Explain why the H4 viewer numbers on Twitch are so terrible.

there were thousands of viewers on launch week.

Yesterday, there were 20,000 people watching BOPS and 650 watching H4.

For this game to succeed it needs viewers.
All the changes, COD additions, may not have helped the growth of the community?

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> AMEN TO THIS! Someone who isn’t a complainer and likes the game how it is, like me! :smiley:

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Been playing Halo games since Halo CE on PC.

I love all Halo games and despise such haters. You cannot call them a true Halo fan at all.

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The thing with Halo veterans like myself, is that we’ve come to expect a certain standard from Halo games.

It is a series, and it is surrounded by competitors. As a consumer, why should I buy Halo over CoD, GoW, BF, etc? Well it is by the things which Halo does DIFFERENTLY. Due to this, the Halo series has a feel to it, and we’ve come to expect that.

We’ve come to expect fair balanced game play, where both sides start with the same weapons, both sides start with the same vehicles, and the matches are won primarily due to skill, and not due to a favorable starting position, or lucky drops.

You say we shouldn’t want the game to be H2 or H3, and I agree, but we need some consistency. When you create a new game in a SERIES, there is baggage which comes with it, certain things are expected to be there, the CORE gameplay being one of them.

If you’re going to change the game dramatically, then you should release it as a new and separate game, rather than calling it something that it is not, Halo.

Of course there should be some changes to keep the series fresh, but these to be minor changes, keeping in mind the core concepts, keeping in mind WHY people are supposed to choose Halo over CoD.

Now that Halo has decreased the skill gap (AGAIN, thanks casuals), and increased the luck factor (AGAIN, thanks casuals), why should I continue to play it instead of looking for another FPS? Some people like myself choose Halo SPECIFICALLY because it is one of the more SKILL based games out there.

CoD releases a new game practically every year, and there CORE concept and gameplay remains the same, the fans know what to expect.

GoW has released 3 titles, and the CORE concept and gameplay remains the same, the fans know what to expect.

Haven’t played the BF series so I won’t comment on that…

Now we get Halo 4, where the core gameplay and concepts have been changed. Do you realize how many strategies I’ve used successfully over the past 3 Halos which NO LONGER APPLY? This is because the core gameplay has changed. Don’t get me wrong, I’m adapting just like I always do, so that isn’t a complaint, it is my evidence to the degree at which the gameplay has changed.

Veterans are perfectly justified in expecting the standard which prior Halo games have set, to be met by 343. 343 has taken NUMEROUS things which Bungie did right, and changed them for the worse.

Change is nessessary for the next title in any series; however, change in itself is not inherintly GOOD. Taking into account the good changes, and the bad changes in H4, the bad outweigh the good (For the moment, I’m sure 343 is fixing various elements). The veterans aren’t mad because “Durrr there were changes, it isn’t an exact clone durr hurr hurr”, we’re mad because the changes which were implemented, are a DETRIMENT to the game, and by extension, the series.

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> It seems like everyday there is alot of complaints lately. I can see why though, BUT I feel like people are allowing past expierience

Stopped here, mid sentence. I bought the game because of past experiences. The is usually the point of a sequel. -I liked what I did before. I want more. Buy the sequel.-

If I want a different experience I’ll move to a different series. Seems a different series came here. :slight_smile:

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Thank you, someone who isn’t being a -Yoink!-, I totally agree.

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Finally someone who understands!

CoD is all about melee-ing opponents to 1 hit kill them to make them silent.

CoD is all about gunning down enemies in half a second so that they can’t shoot back.

CoD is all about running around shooting everything without a second thought.

Meanwhile:

Halo is all about using a combination of teamwork, strategy and careful shooting/dodging in order to out think and outplay the competition.

i DO NOT understand why these Halo fanboys are raving about this. THAT is why I am not a fanboy of any game.

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> > It seems like everyday there is alot of complaints lately. I can see why though, BUT I feel like people are allowing past expierience
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> Stopped here, mid sentence. I bought the game because of past experiences. The is usually the point of a sequel. -I liked what I did before. I want more. Buy the sequel.-
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> If I want a different experience I’ll move to a different series. Seems a different series came here. :slight_smile:

Agreed. I expect things that have come standard to the Halo series to return when I buy a new game with “Halo” on the box.

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> Halo Veterans
> When I say Halo Veterans, I mean those who have played Halo Multiplayer since 2004 (or those who played Halo 1 PC). You guys are really allowing your “expierences” to hinder your judgement of future Halo games. My dissapointment in you all is the fact that you want another Halo 2 or 3. That would be major mistake to this franchise all across the board. That being said, I do agree on your “If you bring something new into this game, make sure it works” attitude.
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> Ranked Playlist
> I do agree that there needs to be one, but there should also be a playlist where people can have fun and cool down from frustrating moments. If there’s anything that makes a casual gamer mad, it’s the integration of competitive play all across the board without an option to have fun in the process.
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> Feel free to leave your opinions below as I would like to see them. (please be respectful to others)

<mark>If you care to understand where some of us are coming from, take the time to read what I wrote. I am one person and my views aren’t representing every other person that is dissatisfied.</mark>

The points I omitted from your post are either because I agreed with them or found them irrelevant and that few people are actually complaining about those points.

As for Halo Veterans, I have been here since the very start, as have many others. There’s nothing better than having that quick realization fly through your mind like wow, this is very similar to that one map or hey, this feels similar to X gametype. We don’t want Halo 2 or Halo 3. We want Halo 4, which should have built off of what was successful from Halo 2 and 3. We don’t feel like we have been given that. If you weren’t around for the peak times of Halo 2 multiplayer or Halo 3 custom games, you won’t really understand what I’m talking about.

Halo 2’s multiplayer was all it really had, and it was fantastic. The game was based on your skill rank and it had so many maps that were awesome to play on. It had some action-interaction available locations. Like shooting down the stalactites on WaterWorks or lowering the gate on Containment. Those little additions were really cool, and we haven’t seen anything like that since then.

Halo 3 excelled in forge and custom games. This is where the longevity of Halo 3 was at. People for once could make astonishing creations. It was crude at times, but people worked around it with geomerging and forging tricks of the like. These things were tedious, but allowed for some of the best forge maps that I have ever played, created or seen. Custom games had so much variety. It was the perfect compliment to forge. They grew from each other, and that has a big reason to do with why I loved Halo 3. (The multiplayer was still solid, and they even built off that. There were things like the Hornet and Elephant that had never been seen before and were great additions to multiplayer.)

Halo Reach was a step back for other reasons and I never really had that love for the game that I used to have. I won’t get into Halo Reach.

Halo 4 sounded like it would be something new again. A new company, a new way to do things. Everything I saw leading up to it was great, and I was happy that things were being changed around. I wanted to try out the new infinity slayer. What pissed me off after a day or so of playing though was that everything that I had seen in previews of the game, was all I was actually getting. I thought there would be more, and I was disappointed. I didn’t know custom games would be so limited. I didn’t know the forge maps would be so small and cut off with stupid barriers. I didn’t know that the two main gametypes were infinity slayer with ordnance drops. I never thought of the fact that everybody could have power weapons at some point. I didn’t think in that mindset of “what might they be leaving out” because I thought all of those good things from H2/3 would just be included as well and that they were going to give us some new additions.

I was disappointed because… those additions were all I feel like I got.

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> Been playing Halo games since Halo CE on PC.
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> I love all Halo games and despise such haters. You cannot call them a true Halo fan at all.

^Took the words right out of my mouth, including the Halo PC part.

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> My dissapointment in you all is the fact that you want another Halo 2 or 3

I dont want another halo 2. I just want the same ranking as halo 2. If you win games you should rank up but if you lose you should go down. It shouldnt be you rank up even if you lost. This is what the country is coming to because no one wants anyones feeling hurt

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I’m tired of complaining. All it does is give me repercussions (negative comments, video dislikes, lack of reception).

I’m going to try and stay off the forums from now on and keep my opinions to myself because sharing them is pointless.

Btw, I didn’t want another Halo 2 or 3.

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I’ve been with Halo since Halo 2 in 2005, and I paid for a good Halo game after Reach. The people at 343i were paid to develop a good Halo game. If my expectations are not met, which they weren’t, I can complain all I want, especially on the forums. That’s what the forums are for, after not, not endless praise of how wonderful everything is. That’s not productive at all.