Does it bother anyone else that 343 and Microsoft rake in the money as we sit here bickering amongst ourselves just hoping 343 will actually respond to us? I can’t help but respect their genius, but at some point something has got to give. Yea, I’m mad bro. Yea, I’m butt hurt. Yea, I’m too old to play video games. It’s not about any of that though, it’s about respect. And we are not being shown the respect we deserve for the loyalty we show. Anyone agree?
Totally agree,they’re milking us right now,343 are useless they’re not doing anything with the game,there is six game modes in arena now for christ’s sake.
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> Does it bother anyone else that 343 and Microsoft rake in the money as we sit here bickering amongst ourselves
This part bothers me sometimes. I feel like they are watching us like “just shut up” lol
Loyalty? All you people do is come on here and -Yoinking!- complain about everything they do! You people show no loyalty, no respect, and absolutely no love for this game. So why should they listen to butthurt players?
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> Loyalty? All you people do is come on here and -Yoinking!- complain about everything they do! You people show no loyalty, no respect, and absolutely no love for this game. So why should they listen to butthurt players?
As much as I agree that there is so much negativity coming from inside the community about issues (I personally don’t think matter) I think a lot of people are trying to do right by the Halo franchise by complaining.
I mean I will only complain about things I care about. I know this is not the same for everyone.
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> Loyalty? All you people do is come on here and -Yoinking!- complain about everything they do! You people show no loyalty, no respect, and absolutely no love for this game. So why should they listen to butthurt players?
No, most people come here to complain for everything that they have not done and when they do it it will be to late or completely opposite of what the community wanted.
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> > Loyalty? All you people do is come on here and -Yoinking!- complain about everything they do! You people show no loyalty, no respect, and absolutely no love for this game. So why should they listen to butthurt players?
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> As much as I agree that there is so much negativity coming from inside the community about issues (I personally don’t think matter) I think a lot of people are trying to do right by the Halo franchise by complaining.
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> I mean I will only complain about things I care about. I know this is not the same for everyone.
I agree 1000% (bold part)
I’m only “complaining” because I care. I don’t swear at 343I or say they are all (insert comment here) or something, but if I think they’re messing up or doing something sloppy I’m going to tell them, just as I would any other company. I tell Toyota all the time what I like and dislike about my truck. I have my own business and if I don’t listen to the people who are buying my products, well… I won’t be in business very long.
Most people “complain” because they care I think. Some do it because they are jerks, but most don’t. If you actually read a lot of the comments on here, there are A LOT of well thought out, polite comments. The problem is anytime someone say anything bad about 343I, people just think they are haters. Which is not the case in a lot of cases.
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> > Loyalty? All you people do is come on here and -Yoinking!- complain about everything they do! You people show no loyalty, no respect, and absolutely no love for this game. So why should they listen to butthurt players?
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> No, most people come here to complain for everything that they have not done and when they do it it will be to late or completely opposite of what the community wanted.
To be fair, I personally think we dont 100% know what we want as a collectively. This is obvious because everyone has different opinions.
My point is, no matter what they add, or don’t add someone is still going to be unhappy. We wanted a more competitive Halo 5 but said it’s “too competitive”. We wanted forge to have more stuff, we got it, we said it was “too complicated” (but if you spent even 15 minutes you would find its not difficult at all).
I believe Beltway has a point about us complaining about everything, but again, a lot of people complain because they want it better.
343 did a good job, yeah somethings could be improved but, in the community we make them seem like Satan.
this is just my opinion.
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> > > Loyalty? All you people do is come on here and -Yoinking!- complain about everything they do! You people show no loyalty, no respect, and absolutely no love for this game. So why should they listen to butthurt players?
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> > As much as I agree that there is so much negativity coming from inside the community about issues (I personally don’t think matter) I think a lot of people are trying to do right by the Halo franchise by complaining.
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> > I mean I will only complain about things I care about. I know this is not the same for everyone.
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> I agree 1000% (bold part)
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> I’m only “complaining” because I care. I don’t swear at 343I or say they are all (insert comment here) or something, but if I think they’re messing up or doing something sloppy I’m going to tell them, just as I would any other company. I tell Toyota all the time what I like and dislike about my truck. I have my own business and if I don’t listen to the people who are buying my products, well… I won’t be in business very long.
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> Most people “complain” because they care. Some do it because they are jerks, but most don’t. If you actually read a lot of the comments on here, there are A LOT of well thought out, polite comments. The problem is anytime someone say anything bad about 343I, people just think they are haters. Which is not the case in a lot of cases.
I get what your saying and I agree mostly.
I think people forget that its not just them that have opinions that matter.
I mean I have a things I hate about Halo 5 that friends say they love. So to express my hate over something that I know other people enjoy is kinda a redundant task because I know a company is trying to please the majority oppose to the minority. And I am 100% fine with that.
You seem like a nice dude, but a whole lot of people in this community lately have been a little rude and self centered if you ask me. If you have a opinion its perfectly fine to express it, but just do it in a mature manner is all I ask.
I say this in every post near enough, but again… Its just my opinion.
> My point is, no matter what they add, or don’t add someone is still going to be unhappy. We wanted a more competitive Halo 5 but said it’s “too competitive”. We wanted forge to have more stuff, we got it, we said it was “too complicated” (but if you spent even 15 minutes you would find its not difficult at all).
> I believe Beltway has a point about us complaining about everything, but again, a lot of people complain because they want it better.
Any company that is too proud to admit mistakes, too elitist to see the validity in customer complaints, and thus doesn’t listen to its customers is doomed to fail.
Any company that listens to every customer, without using their own minds and filtering out the valid complaints from the sheer nonsense, is also doomed to fail.
It’s impossible to please everyone. It is possible to apply common sense and get a feel for what will please the majority of people.
Most people want a working fileshare.
Most people want more gamemodes.
Most people want forge to be bug free.
I don’t think anyone here would dispute any of the above claims.
> Does it bother anyone else that 343 and Microsoft rake in the money as we sit here bickering amongst ourselves just hoping 343 will actually respond to us?
If they tried to engage with us in discussion they’d just get shredded by rabid fans.
This proves my point. Here we are bickering. We all have our opinions, but it would be nice for an actual representative to step in every now and then and say “look, this is the way it is, these are our future plans for this game, we can’t please everyone so get over it.” Today is the first time I have ever complained on a forum and the only reason I did so is because of my love for the game. I will get over it. I’m still keeping my XB One, Windows 10, etc. I’ll keep betting on Microsoft until they give me reason not to.
As far a loyalty goes, I don’t know what else to call it man. I’ve owned a 360 for over five years. I’ve been a Gold member from the beginning. I bought the XB One as soon as it came out. And come on, I don’t even need to bring up all of the Microsoft products I’ve used personally and professionally. Not even Bill Gates would doubt my loyalty.
My only real point is that this site is basically a scam. It’s the perfect way for 343 and Microsoft to not have to deal with complaints. They set up the site and just let us type away. It is genius from a business perspective. From a LOYAL consumer’s perspective, it is degrading. People don’t come on here and complain or ask questions just to pick a fight. We do so because we actually want an answer. Give us a direct answer and we will be satisfied. It may not be what we want to hear, but at least we have an answer and not just another opinion from the Peanut gallery.
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> > My point is, no matter what they add, or don’t add someone is still going to be unhappy. We wanted a more competitive Halo 5 but said it’s “too competitive”. We wanted forge to have more stuff, we got it, we said it was “too complicated” (but if you spent even 15 minutes you would find its not difficult at all).
> > I believe Beltway has a point about us complaining about everything, but again, a lot of people complain because they want it better.
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> Any company that is too proud to admit mistakes, too elitist to see the validity in customer complaints, and thus doesn’t listen to its customers is doomed to fail.
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> Any company that listens to every customer, without using their own minds and filtering out the valid complaints from the sheer nonsense, is also doomed to fail.
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> It’s impossible to please everyone. It is possible to apply common sense and get a feel for what will please the majority of people.
> Most people want a working fileshare.
> Most people want more gamemodes.
> Most people want forge to be bug free.
> I don’t think anyone here would dispute any of the above claims.
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> > Does it bother anyone else that 343 and Microsoft rake in the money as we sit here bickering amongst ourselves just hoping 343 will actually respond to us?
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> If they tried to engage with us in discussion they’d just get shredded by rabid fans.
You just said what I was trying to say a lot better than I did. Thanks haha
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> > > > Loyalty? All you people do is come on here and -Yoinking!- complain about everything they do! You people show no loyalty, no respect, and absolutely no love for this game. So why should they listen to butthurt players?
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> > > As much as I agree that there is so much negativity coming from inside the community about issues (I personally don’t think matter) I think a lot of people are trying to do right by the Halo franchise by complaining.
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> > > I mean I will only complain about things I care about. I know this is not the same for everyone.
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> > I agree 1000% (bold part)
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> > I’m only “complaining” because I care. I don’t swear at 343I or say they are all (insert comment here) or something, but if I think they’re messing up or doing something sloppy I’m going to tell them, just as I would any other company. I tell Toyota all the time what I like and dislike about my truck. I have my own business and if I don’t listen to the people who are buying my products, well… I won’t be in business very long.
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> > Most people “complain” because they care. Some do it because they are jerks, but most don’t. If you actually read a lot of the comments on here, there are A LOT of well thought out, polite comments. The problem is anytime someone say anything bad about 343I, people just think they are haters. Which is not the case in a lot of cases.
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> I get what your saying and I agree mostly.
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> I think people forget that its not just them that have opinions that matter.
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> I mean I have a things I hate about Halo 5 that friends say they love. So to express my hate over something that I know other people enjoy is kinda a redundant task because I know a company is trying to please the majority oppose to the minority. And I am 100% fine with that.
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> You seem like a nice dude, but a whole lot of people in this community lately have been a little rude and self centered if you ask me. If you have a opinion its perfectly fine to express it, but just do it in a mature manner is all I ask.
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> I say this in every post near enough, but again… Its just my opinion.
I hear ya what your saying too, there are some pretty brutal people out there, but hey, that’s the internet right… lol
…and thanks man, I think I’m a nice dude too lol You also seem like a nice guy. I’ve commented a lot on a lot of posts by Ramir3z77 and he seems like a nice guy too! well there is a few nice guys on here at least lol Yes I’ve gone off a few times sure, but I don’t swear or be rude or anything like that to 343I, at least I don’t think so… I hope not. I agree though, just express your opinion in a mature manner like you said. Too bad when you do, so many people just call you ungrateful or a hater or something.