Multiplayer is just so vacuous

I really despair of those individuals that find so much entertainment in the multiplayer. It’s just so utterly worthless and pointless.

You don’t make any connections with any players, there’s no time to contemplate any strategy and there’s no teamwork. It’s just sprint, shoot, die and repeat.

Sometimes it’s pot luck if you take someone out, other times it can feel incredibly unjust but either way you die and then you are back in. The game doesn’t want you to savour the moment or ‘feel it’. Just bounce you out and bounce you back in.

Yes, you can get wrapped up in endless stats and carnage reports to convince you that these things are a substitute for depth but it’s just so shallow.

There’s no satisfaction, no immersion and no meaning. It literally is empty eye candy to keep you occupied for a couple of hours.

There’s no resonance, no genuine involvement, just surface level gloss. Hence when you watch someone playing on Twitch, they don’t seem to care what they are doing. They don’t feel it, they aren’t involved.

They are so working on mindless autopilot that they have the time to comment on people following them and responding to inane questions.

Halo, Battlefront, COD - they are all the same. Mindless exercises with pretty sounds and pictures to keep a cud chewing herd of morons glued to a screen.

And how have we got to a point where an entertainment product is just like the previous one with nothing noticeably new or different. Okay there may be some shinier colours, bigger maps and tweaked abilities (wow, we can run) but how do people just swallow that beep so blindly?

I wanted to give 343 the benefit of the doubt but in playing Halo 5, I see that they really are churning out the same old crap.

The game has got no heart or soul. Slick visuals and cool menus but a vanilla genericness at it’s core. Couple this with the truly awful other media that they’ve recently put out and it really does feel like 343 are nothing more than janitors, rather than creators, prepared to oversee the franchise being run into the ground.

One person’s opinion. Nothing more.

Feel your pain, where are the days of mics and comunication? In the early games everyone was part of a comunity. Even with randoms you still got decent team chats.

It’s like on Halo Wars you have time to get a handle on the people on your team or the other side because people have to invest the time to play.

Or on games like Horde, you build a rapport with others helping you through teamwork. On the Halo 5 multiplayer it’s all just so disposable. You feel nothing while playing it and nothing afterwards.

Players stick with the same tactics, the same routine and go through the motions of processional play because what the hell, you’ll be doing the exact same thing in 5 minutes.

Hear hear. I feel confident that 343i had catered way too much to the pro teams pitching in worn out ideas from the old times of Halo. De-scoping, sprint halting shield recharge rate, stopping power preventing one from reaching full velocity while sprinting, crutch weapons like the battle rifle and magnum. Halo 5 just doesn’t have the fun factor that Halo used to hold dearly. It became prevalent on ranks and stats than the actual replayability.

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> It’s like on Halo Wars you have time to get a handle on the people on your team or the other side because people have to invest the time to play.
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> Or on games like Horde, you build a rapport with others helping you through teamwork. On the Halo 5 multiplayer it’s all just so disposable. You feel nothing while playing it and nothing afterwards.
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> Players stick with the same tactics, the same routine and go through the motions of processional play because what the hell, you’ll be doing the exact same thing in 5 minutes.

This, totally agree. I wish we can go back to halo 2/3 days…FeelsBadMan

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> Hear hear. I feel confident that 343i had catered way too much to the pro teams pitching in worn out ideas from the old times of Halo. De-scoping, sprint halting shield recharge rate, stopping power preventing one from reaching full velocity while sprinting, crutch weapons like the battle rifle and magnum. Halo 5 just doesn’t have the fun factor that Halo used to hold dearly. It became prevalent on ranks and stats than the actual replayability.

We’ll said that man.

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> > It’s like on Halo Wars you have time to get a handle on the people on your team or the other side because people have to invest the time to play.
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> > Or on games like Horde, you build a rapport with others helping you through teamwork. On the Halo 5 multiplayer it’s all just so disposable. You feel nothing while playing it and nothing afterwards.
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> > Players stick with the same tactics, the same routine and go through the motions of processional play because what the hell, you’ll be doing the exact same thing in 5 minutes.
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> This, totally agree. I wish we can go back to halo 2/3 days…FeelsBadMan

It’s like it’s now so fast paced, that it doesn’t mean a thing. Run, fire, you kill, you die, game over, next game.

I find it hard to get any form of satisfaction or achievement from the experience. Supposedly the wonder of playing in multiplayer is that you are playing against real people dotted all around the world. With this you might as well being playing against bots for all the interaction and opportunities of personalities to come through.

I feel like you’re talking exclusively about team slayer, and you know what? It was always this way. You’re remembering the past through a fog of nostalgia if you recall it any differently. And if you want game play that isn’t just the same old same old then play warzone. And if I really heard you complaining about the lack of connection to other players then you obviously haven’t found out about the whole “spartan company” thing. Join up, soldier. Meet people, make friends, and invest yourself in the game. Stop waiting for an act of God to make it happen spontaneously. Or just move on and play something else.

  1. Matchmaking is horrible - above the cost of consoles and games, gamers spend a lot of money on proper internet, modems, routers, televisions. We spend a lot of time tweaking all of the above. We do this to have the best gaming experience possible. These game developers like 343 make all those efforts null and void with their poor matchmaking criteria. How can any game have proper Hit Detection, TTK when it is more common than not to be put into a lobby with people 2K-5K miles away. Are these centralized servers in the North and South Poles? I would love to be able to have international lobbies but lets be honest on the quality they can provide right now.

  2. The weapon system is horrible. Let me earn my weapons, learn their pro’s and con’s, get efficient with all of them and keep them.

  3. Balance the weapons and vehicles.

  4. Let me back out of a lobby anytime before the game begins, especially when I hear 2-3 different languages being spoken.

  5. Please fix the GUI on the scoreboard. Have you tried moving around the scoreboard and checking out other players?

  6. I love the game and I love multiplayer. I love getting into a lobby where randoms actually work together (even without mic’s) to complete the objectives. I hate all of the inconsistency in time to kill, hit detection, from the grave kills due to lag or the high number of “draw” deaths there are. How do you melee someone and get a from the grave “draw” death?

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> 1. Matchmaking is horrible - above the cost of consoles and games, gamers spend a lot of money on proper internet, modems, routers, televisions. We spend a lot of time tweaking all of the above. We do this to have the best gaming experience possible. These game developers like 343 make all those efforts null and void with their poor matchmaking criteria. How can any game have proper Hit Detection, TTK when it is more common than not to be put into a lobby with people 2K-5K miles away. Are these centralized servers in the North and South Poles? I would love to be able to have international lobbies but lets be honest on the quality they can provide right now.
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> 2. The weapon system is horrible. Let me earn my weapons, learn their pro’s and con’s, get efficient with all of them and keep them.
> 3. Balance the weapons and vehicles.
> 4. Let me back out of a lobby anytime before the game begins, especially when I hear 2-3 different languages being spoken.
> 5. Please fix the GUI on the scoreboard. Have you tried moving around the scoreboard and checking out other players?
> 6. I love the game and I love multiplayer. I love getting into a lobby where randoms actually work together (even without mic’s) to complete the objectives. I hate all of the inconsistency in time to kill, hit detection, from the grave kills due to lag or the high number of “draw” deaths there are. How do you melee someone and get a from the grave “draw” death?

  1. Do you even remember what game play was like when Halo was p2p?
  2. Not sure what you’re talking about here, unless you mean that you want weapons to unlock with exp instead of reqs. Great. What Halo needs is more barriers-to-entry.
  3. If warzone was meant to be “balanced” in the traditional sense then we wouldn’t even need the arena. Warzone is what it is. No one is making you play there.
  4. Wow. It’s matchmaking, not a dating service. You play with the same people as the rest of us, whatever language they may speak. You want to play with only a certain kind of player then join a spartan company and go into matchmaking with a party.
  5. I agree that it isn’t easy to see who you’re playing with/against. I’m not sure I really care who I’m playing with/against, but if you do then so be it.
  6. What you’re describing here could be any one of a lot of different things, or many of them in combination, but the one thing that seems most likely is that you have garbage internet, or you live in Kansas, or both. And I can’t see how any of these things could be Halo’s fault.

I feel like your entire original post can be solved by joining a Spartan Company. I’ve had some amazing multiplayer experiences while playing games with my Company. Maybe give that a try. As I look at your profile I don’t see you affiliated with one, go check them out. Each one give a bit of a description on the kind of players they are looking for. So you can try to find ones that fit the way you want to play.