[MULTI] 343 iNDUSTRIES, YOU'RE GOING TO THE WRONG WAY.

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Good evening everybody, or good morning I don’t know where all the fans are living.

Firstly, I’m sure I’m not the first one who tell you what will follow, but I have to try. This is our only hope to have a the multiplayer of Halo back.
Secondly, I’m not english, but I’ll try to write the most perfectly I can to get you our message.

Please people who’ll read this, don’t insult me. I have to explain my opinion. Respect my opinion, I respect the yours.

Nobody here knows me, but please, you have to trust me. I know so much about Halo Universe, but I speak about the multiplayer, not the wonderful and amazing campaign (by the way, make a great campaign 343i !). I have good advices to 343i to satisfy the most and real Halo Fans for the multi.
Yes, 343i you’re going to the wrong way about HALO 4 multiplayer, let me explain you my opinion and the one of my friends.
You can’t imagine how I love Halo, but I don’t want to have a new Halo: Reach catastrophe. This is why I’m writing here, for the good of all of us. (Maybe I’m exaggerating)

You have to stop to satisfy the news players, or the recent players. You have to satisfy the real Halo players. The one present during Halo 2, Halo 3… It was a perfect gameplay, a perfect system.
If you’ll satisfy the news guys, making the game so easily for them in giving them toys like, (Halo: Reach) Armor Lock, Camo, Sprint… I’ll be awful. Again.
Maybe it’s just to ONLY have news players, (and more money…). But 343i was created about Halo community, isn’t ? Make honor 343i, listen a real Halo fan.

So, we already know that our armor will change the “how” to kill a player… Tss. Wrong idea. It’s never happened, and it have to never happened.
Making a minimap for the emplacement of the weapons ? Uh… Players have to search themselves the weapons, but it’s not one the primary objections !
One the primary objection is the randomly respawn of the weapons. What about tactic ? It’ll be a -Yoinking!- mess. “to disadvantage the experienced players” Awww Thank you 343i ! You’re too nice with your fans.
And what about the system of classes back ? You already know, but I insist. No more, please ! Satisfy news guys or other players in giving them some classes which will make frustrated players but make smile the one who used the cheated class… It isn’t the good way. The perfect idea is to place the equipment in the ground, Halo 3, guys.
Seriously, we don’t want Camo/ Camo-Sniper, we don’t want Armor lock, (we don’t want Sprint), … Do you know how much it’s frustrating to play against players who play with this ?

I can tell more, but I will not. Halo 4 could be great, but look Halo: Reach… A lot of players left it. And the upgrades, well I can’t really tell about it, too much and I stopped to play the multiplayer of Halo: reach. It’s boring for me now.

Before to leave you, I want to tell you this is a rage topic. I expose my opinion, in hoping to don’t be again disappointed. Of course, I’m not the only player in the world, my mind isn’t the one to follow. I’m sure that somewhere I’m wrong, but how can I know ? I expose the facts, and explain my reaction.

Bless you 343i, make a great game. I wish you the best.

Sincerely.

(Sorry if I forget some words)

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I agree with you 100%.

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Oh sorry, I didn’t see my title was in MAJ. >,< Stupid kewboard ! :smiley:

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Up

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> Good evening everybody, or good morning I don’t know where all the fans are living.
>
> Firstly, I’m sure I’m not the first one who tell you what will follow, but I have to try. This is our only hope to have a the multiplayer of Halo back.
> Secondly, I’m not english, but I’ll try to write the most perfectly I can to get you our message.
>
> Please people who’ll read this, don’t insult me. I have to explain my opinion. Respect my opinion, I respect the yours.
>
> Nobody here knows me, but please, you have to trust me. I know so much about Halo Universe, but I speak about the multiplayer, not the wonderful and amazing campaign (by the way, make a great campaign 343i !). I have good advices to 343i to satisfy the most and real Halo Fans for the multi.
> Yes, 343i you’re going to the wrong way about HALO 4 multiplayer, let me explain you my opinion and the one of my friends.
> You can’t imagine how I love Halo, but I don’t want to have a new Halo: Reach catastrophe. This is why I’m writing here, for the good of all of us. (Maybe I’m exaggerating)
>
> You have to stop to satisfy the news players, or the recent players. You have to satisfy the real Halo players. The one present during Halo 2, Halo 3… It was a perfect gameplay, a perfect system.
> If you’ll satisfy the news guys, making the game so easily for them in giving them toys like, (Halo: Reach) Armor Lock, Camo, Sprint… I’ll be awful. Again.
> Maybe it’s just to ONLY have news players, (and more money…). But 343i was created about Halo community, isn’t ? Make honor 343i, listen a real Halo fan.
>
> So, we already know that our armor will change the “how” to kill a player… Tss. Wrong idea. It’s never happened, and it have to never happened.
> Making a minimap for the emplacement of the weapons ? Uh… Players have to search themselves the weapons, but it’s not one the primary objections !
> One the primary objection is the randomly respawn of the weapons. What about tactic ? It’ll be a -Yoinking!- mess. “to disadvantage the experienced players” Awww Thank you 343i ! You’re too nice with your fans.
> And what about the system of classes back ? You already know, but I insist. No more, please ! Satisfy news guys or other players in giving them some classes which will make frustrated players but make smile the one who used the cheated class… It isn’t the good way. The perfect idea is to place the equipment in the ground, Halo 3, guys.
> Seriously, we don’t want Camo/ Camo-Sniper, we don’t want Armor lock, (we don’t want Sprint), … Do you know how much it’s frustrating to play against players who play with this ?
>
>
> I can tell more, but I will not. Halo 4 could be great, but look Halo: Reach… A lot of players left it. And the upgrades, well I can’t really tell about it, too much and I stopped to play the multiplayer of Halo: reach. It’s boring for me now.
>
> Before to leave you, I want to tell you this is a rage topic. I expose my opinion, in hoping to don’t be again disappointed. Of course, I’m not the only player in the world, my mind isn’t the one to follow. I’m sure that somewhere I’m wrong, but how can I know ? I expose the facts, and explain my reaction.
>
> Bless you 343i, make a great game. I wish you the best.
>
> Sincerely.
>
> (Sorry if I forget some words)

Did the Incredible Hulk type this up?

lol. Seriously though, the answer doesn’t lye in “Making Halo 4 Halo 2” or what ever. The answer is to offer classic styles of gameplay like Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3 but then additionally offer new, more evolved playlists.

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Once again as many others have said in this forum please don’t judge this game yet.

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You’ve seen around 30 seconds of gameplay. Chill the -Yoink- out…

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I agree with you people.

I agree that it’s too early to already critic the multiplayer because we haven’t play it yet.
But, I prefer to expose my mind before and early that the game go out, because it could be too late.

Of course, I like the idea to make “2” multiplayer, a classic one like 100% Halo 3 (it could be difficult to do) and one normal (Halo 4)
And I think it’ll be a same to have to delete the recent created programs and animations for the Halo 4 multiplayer.

Anyway, thanks loads for you replying.

(The up wasn’t a HULK one xD. I just make the up a few hours after the topic down too far)

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I respect your opinion Falcotte. But I also completely disagree with you. I have played every game in the Halo series since the beginning, and I found REACH to be the best by far. Best gameplay in Campaign, best graphics, most entertaining multiplayer. I loved the armor abilities. Whether I used them or they were used against me, it was just another aspect of the game to integrate into my gameplay.

People don’t like change in anything! Let alone something they have come to love. But, change happens, things evolve and must evolve to move forward. Especially in games, other wise you might as well just continually get new map packs and campaign/mission updates to the original game.

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All I see here is someone afraid of change and has resorted to bashing a product they’ve never played.

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> Good evening everybody, or good morning I don’t know where all the fans are living.
>
> Firstly, I’m sure I’m not the first one who tell you what will follow, but I have to try. This is our only hope to have a the multiplayer of Halo back.
> Secondly, I’m not english, but I’ll try to write the most perfectly I can to get you our message.
>
> Please people who’ll read this, don’t insult me. I have to explain my opinion. Respect my opinion, I respect the yours.
>
> Nobody here knows me, but please, you have to trust me. I know so much about Halo Universe, but I speak about the multiplayer, not the wonderful and amazing campaign (by the way, make a great campaign 343i !). I have good advices to 343i to satisfy the most and real Halo Fans for the multi.
> Yes, 343i you’re going to the wrong way about HALO 4 multiplayer, let me explain you my opinion and the one of my friends.
> You can’t imagine how I love Halo, but I don’t want to have a new Halo: Reach catastrophe. This is why I’m writing here, for the good of all of us. (Maybe I’m exaggerating)
>
> You have to stop to satisfy the news players, or the recent players. You have to satisfy the real Halo players. The one present during Halo 2, Halo 3… It was a perfect gameplay, a perfect system.
> If you’ll satisfy the news guys, making the game so easily for them in giving them toys like, (Halo: Reach) Armor Lock, Camo, Sprint… I’ll be awful. Again.
> Maybe it’s just to ONLY have news players, (and more money…). But 343i was created about Halo community, isn’t ? Make honor 343i, listen a real Halo fan.
>
> So, we already know that our armor will change the “how” to kill a player… Tss. Wrong idea. It’s never happened, and it have to never happened.
> Making a minimap for the emplacement of the weapons ? Uh… Players have to search themselves the weapons, but it’s not one the primary objections !
> One the primary objection is the randomly respawn of the weapons. What about tactic ? It’ll be a -Yoinking!- mess. “to disadvantage the experienced players” Awww Thank you 343i ! You’re too nice with your fans.
> And what about the system of classes back ? You already know, but I insist. No more, please ! Satisfy news guys or other players in giving them some classes which will make frustrated players but make smile the one who used the cheated class… It isn’t the good way. The perfect idea is to place the equipment in the ground, Halo 3, guys.
> Seriously, we don’t want Camo/ Camo-Sniper, we don’t want Armor lock, (we don’t want Sprint), … Do you know how much it’s frustrating to play against players who play with this ?
>
>
> I can tell more, but I will not. Halo 4 could be great, but look Halo: Reach… A lot of players left it. And the upgrades, well I can’t really tell about it, too much and I stopped to play the multiplayer of Halo: reach. It’s boring for me now.
>
> Before to leave you, I want to tell you this is a rage topic. I expose my opinion, in hoping to don’t be again disappointed. Of course, I’m not the only player in the world, my mind isn’t the one to follow. I’m sure that somewhere I’m wrong, but how can I know ? I expose the facts, and explain my reaction.
>
> Bless you 343i, make a great game. I wish you the best.
>
> Sincerely.
>
> (Sorry if I forget some words)

I might have been able to respect you’re opinion but you sound very selfish and arrogant. I have played Halo since Halo 1 and I think what they’re doing with the MP is phenomenal. Halo is getting boring. Why do you want the same game we played over 6-7 years ago? Its a new story, a new style, and I like it. As long as it feels like Halo. The problem with Reach is it tried to changed too much in one iteration. They changed the speed, melee, aiming, bloom, shield system, added AA’s, and changed the ranking system. If they instead chose two or three of these and focused on them they could have really made a great halo. These people know game design. They’re pioneers in the industry and they know what they’re doing. They don’t need another 100th topic telling them what is Halo and what is not. Their challenge isn’t making the perfect Halo, their challenge is to make the DEFINITIVE Halo, that will shape the franchise for the next 6 years. Let them do what they want to do, they will always cater to the hardcore, casual, and mixed gamers. Thats why we have 20 playlists on Reach right now, more then any other game for consoles. Relax and wait till we actually see a full demo of MP gameplay.

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You two are right, ai exaggerated about Halo:Reach, I told it. I don’t hate the game, I love it. But the multiplayer is really more frustrating than Halo 3. (?)

But yes, i’m afraid of changes, because I’m worried of Halo.
People doesn’t like the news things on Halo, but others yes. There’ll always have 2 sides.

I always change my mind, sometimes I was for Halo Reach changes, and sometimes for a Halo 3 restoring.

I agree with you: changes is the best, I just want everybody happy with the result now. But how ? I beg 343i to make the good choices.

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> You’ve seen around 30 seconds of gameplay. Chill the -Yoink!- out…

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> > Good evening everybody, or good morning I don’t know where all the fans are living.
> >
> > Firstly, I’m sure I’m not the first one who tell you what will follow, but I have to try. This is our only hope to have a the multiplayer of Halo back.
> > Secondly, I’m not english, but I’ll try to write the most perfectly I can to get you our message.
> >
> > Please people who’ll read this, don’t insult me. I have to explain my opinion. Respect my opinion, I respect the yours.
> >
> > Nobody here knows me, but please, you have to trust me. I know so much about Halo Universe, but I speak about the multiplayer, not the wonderful and amazing campaign (by the way, make a great campaign 343i !). I have good advices to 343i to satisfy the most and real Halo Fans for the multi.
> > Yes, 343i you’re going to the wrong way about HALO 4 multiplayer, let me explain you my opinion and the one of my friends.
> > You can’t imagine how I love Halo, but I don’t want to have a new Halo: Reach catastrophe. This is why I’m writing here, for the good of all of us. (Maybe I’m exaggerating)
> >
> > You have to stop to satisfy the news players, or the recent players. You have to satisfy the real Halo players. The one present during Halo 2, Halo 3… It was a perfect gameplay, a perfect system.
> > If you’ll satisfy the news guys, making the game so easily for them in giving them toys like, (Halo: Reach) Armor Lock, Camo, Sprint… I’ll be awful. Again.
> > Maybe it’s just to ONLY have news players, (and more money…). But 343i was created about Halo community, isn’t ? Make honor 343i, listen a real Halo fan.
> >
> > So, we already know that our armor will change the “how” to kill a player… Tss. Wrong idea. It’s never happened, and it have to never happened.
> > Making a minimap for the emplacement of the weapons ? Uh… Players have to search themselves the weapons, but it’s not one the primary objections !
> > One the primary objection is the randomly respawn of the weapons. What about tactic ? It’ll be a -Yoinking!- mess. “to disadvantage the experienced players” Awww Thank you 343i ! You’re too nice with your fans.
> > And what about the system of classes back ? You already know, but I insist. No more, please ! Satisfy news guys or other players in giving them some classes which will make frustrated players but make smile the one who used the cheated class… It isn’t the good way. The perfect idea is to place the equipment in the ground, Halo 3, guys.
> > Seriously, we don’t want Camo/ Camo-Sniper, we don’t want Armor lock, (we don’t want Sprint), … Do you know how much it’s frustrating to play against players who play with this ?
> >
> >
> > I can tell more, but I will not. Halo 4 could be great, but look Halo: Reach… A lot of players left it. And the upgrades, well I can’t really tell about it, too much and I stopped to play the multiplayer of Halo: reach. It’s boring for me now.
> >
> > Before to leave you, I want to tell you this is a rage topic. I expose my opinion, in hoping to don’t be again disappointed. Of course, I’m not the only player in the world, my mind isn’t the one to follow. I’m sure that somewhere I’m wrong, but how can I know ? I expose the facts, and explain my reaction.
> >
> > Bless you 343i, make a great game. I wish you the best.
> >
> > Sincerely.
> >
> > (Sorry if I forget some words)
>
> I might have been able to respect you’re opinion but you sound very selfish and arrogant. I have played Halo since Halo 1 and I think what they’re doing with the MP is phenomenal. Halo is getting boring. Why do you want the same game we played over 6-7 years ago? Its a new story, a new style, and I like it. As long as it feels like Halo. The problem with Reach is it tried to changed too much in one iteration. They changed the speed, melee, aiming, bloom, shield system, added AA’s, and changed the ranking system. If they instead chose two or three of these and focused on them they could have really made a great halo. These people know game design. They’re pioneers in the industry and they know what they’re doing. They don’t need another 100th topic telling them what is Halo and what is not. Their challenge isn’t making the perfect Halo, their challenge is to make the DEFINITIVE Halo, that will shape the franchise for the next 6 years. Let them do what they want to do, they will always cater to the hardcore, casual, and mixed gamers. Thats why we have 20 playlists on Reach right now, more then any other game for consoles. Relax and wait till we actually see a full demo of MP gameplay.

I totally agree with you ! Thank you to have help me to correct my mind, because I never know how to expose my opinion sometimes.

Sorry if my first post looked arrogant.

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I really disagree about the weapon placement. Gears of war 3 made all the weapons visabel on the map, in tac com and an overhead map. this was great because as a new player, you wouldn’t have to play the map 10 times to figure out where the weapons were. imagine you, as a new player, and this good guy keeps killing you with a rockey, while you still needed to find the damn thing! weapons on mini map balances things out, on a small scale

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This is what I should write: http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst64398_A-Letter-From-The-Competitive-Community.aspx

Sorry again if my topic seems arrogant. I was scared, but this topic means exactly my opinion. Again, I’m not english, sorry for my exaggerated phrases.

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> I really disagree about the weapon placement. Gears of war 3 made all the weapons visabel on the map, in tac com and an overhead map. this was great because as a new player, you wouldn’t have to play the map 10 times to figure out where the weapons were. imagine you, as a new player, and this good guy keeps killing you with a rockey, while you still needed to find the damn thing! weapons on mini map balances things out, on a small scale

Indeed, you’re really right.

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> <mark>Did the Incredible Hulk type this up?</mark>
>
> lol. Seriously though, the answer doesn’t lye in “Making Halo 4 Halo 2” or what ever. The answer is to offer classic styles of gameplay like Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3 but then additionally offer new, more evolved playlists.

That really felt necessary to you? He clarified that he English isn’t his first language. It’s a little backwards that you insult the writing of someone who is typing in a language they’re less familiar with while you yourself spell the world lies incorrectly.