More maps in map packs or more stuff?

Games Other Halo
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Would you rather get more maps in a map pack, say 5-7 maps instead of 3, or more stuff in a map pack, say 2-3 maps plus a new weapon, armor set, and weapon skin?

Personally I am pretty annoyed with the way map pack content has changed since Halo 2. Back in Halo 2 some map packs had like 5 maps in them! And eventually after a year or two they were all free as well so that all of the population could play them together, but before that they were exclusive to certain play lists so if you didn’t buy them you didn’t get access to those couple of play lists, which is why they eventually became free for everyone, to allow everyone into those play lists again eventually.

I think it was a great set up.

More maps.
More players playing the map packs in more play lists.
Free maps eventually.

Now days not only have map packs been reduced solely down to 3 maps, but the new trend is throwing in a few little things to make players feel like they’re getting more when they’re getting less, such as a new weapon skin and new armor.

Well, 3 maps is still less than 5 eventually free maps in multiple play lists, even with a new weapon skin and armor set.

Think about what you wish for…

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I wish the “map packs” were more or less “expansion packs” and added; weapons, weapon skins, armor, armor skins, vehicles, emblems, and of course maps.

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> I wish the “map packs” were more or less “expansion packs” and added; weapons, weapon skins, armor, armor skins, vehicles, emblems, and of course maps.

An expansion pack includes a campaign. We already have side campaign(s) in Spartan Ops, and even that story went to far because it continued the main campaign by destroying Requiem.

My gold expired, I didn’t renew it because Halo 4 is junk, and so you know how I saw the ending of Halo 4’s campaign with Requiem being destroyed? People talking about it on here, so I looked it up on youtube.

That is ridiculously unfair for me and others to not get to finish a campaign because we only paid for the actual Halo 4 game!

(Or in my case, only paid for Halo 4, AND the map pass, AND xbox live, but even after buying all that, I STILL didn’t get to see the full ending of Halo 4’s campaign in Spartan Ops?!)

A dlc expansion campaign would be the same thing, unless it was a true side campaign like ODST. That would be okay I guess, but why not just have an expansion campaign dlc? That isn’t anything to do with a MAP pack really…

Weapons would be horrifically unfair to give to only people who pay for them, who are also paying for xbox live! That is just purely cheating and ripping off the buyers of Halo 4!

Weapon skins, armor, and armor skins already come in map packs. We got a helmet or something with each one or at least one map pack, and I think Reach did that too. I don’t know really because I could care less about playing Spartan dress-up honestly lol. But yeah, no problem with more of that stuff.

I think adding in some bonus skins, armor, or armor skins is perfectly okay and it is already happening anyway.

Vehicles, no, because again that is ripping off and cheating players who aren’t paying for xbox live and the dlc. If they bought Halo 4, that includes all the vehicles and weapons. That is just ridiculously unethical and bad business to cheat people out of some of the game’s core content. All weapons and vehicles should be present at launch.

Emblems would also probably be fine since its so similar to skins, armor, and armor skins.

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I don’t want to pay $30 per map pack so I’ll have to say neither.

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> I don’t want to pay $30 per map pack so I’ll have to say neither.

Map packs were the same price or maybe even slightly cheaper in Halo 2, and eventually became free.

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> > I don’t want to pay $30 per map pack so I’ll have to say neither.
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> Map packs were the same price or maybe even slightly cheaper in Halo 2, and eventually became free.

I’m well aware of how Halo 2’s maps worked, I bought every one of them that they asked me to instead of waiting for them to become free. That being said, Microsoft will never let that happen again, free is not profitable. In this day and age, they charge for additional content and if you want more more more they’re going to charge you more more more. 3 maps is now the Halo standard, I’d rather keep it that way and make skins, weapons, whatever optional as a separate download instead of jacking up the prices of the maps.

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> > I wish the “map packs” were more or less “expansion packs” and added; weapons, weapon skins, armor, armor skins, vehicles, emblems, and of course maps.
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> An expansion pack includes a campaign. We already have side campaign(s) in Spartan Ops, and even that story went to far because it continued the main campaign by destroying Requiem.
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> My gold expired, I didn’t renew it because Halo 4 is junk, and so you know how I saw the ending of Halo 4’s campaign with Requiem being destroyed? People talking about it on here, so I looked it up on youtube.
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> That is ridiculously unfair for me and others to not get to finish a campaign because we only paid for the actual Halo 4 game!
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> (Or in my case, only paid for Halo 4, AND the map pass, AND xbox live, but even after buying all that, I STILL didn’t get to see the full ending of Halo 4’s campaign in Spartan Ops?!)
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> A dlc expansion campaign would be the same thing, unless it was a true side campaign like ODST. That would be okay I guess, but why not just have an expansion campaign dlc? That isn’t anything to do with a MAP pack really…
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> Weapons would be horrifically unfair to give to only people who pay for them, who are also paying for xbox live! That is just purely cheating and ripping off the buyers of Halo 4!
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> Weapon skins, armor, and armor skins already come in map packs. We got a helmet or something with each one or at least one map pack, and I think Reach did that too. I don’t know really because I could care less about playing Spartan dress-up honestly lol. But yeah, no problem with more of that stuff.
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> I think adding in some bonus skins, armor, or armor skins is perfectly okay and it is already happening anyway.
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> Vehicles, no, because again that is ripping off and cheating players who aren’t paying for xbox live and the dlc. If they bought Halo 4, that includes all the vehicles and weapons. That is just ridiculously unethical and bad business to cheat people out of some of the game’s core content. All weapons and vehicles should be present at launch.
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> Emblems would also probably be fine since its so similar to skins, armor, and armor skins.

Ok, no where does “expansion pack” mean single player oriented.

I am basing my thoughts off of Battlefield 3’s multiple peices of DLC, each of them were dubbed expansions, and righfully so.

They are 15$ a piece and include 4 maps, vehicles, game modes, and usually some weapons.

The vehicles for expansions only work on that expansion and anyone can use them in that expansion. For example 343i adds a Hornet in the new Castle map pack hypothetically, just becasue you bought Castle doesent mean you can play on Exile and spawn in a Hornet.

The weapons can be used on ANY map (if you unlocked them). They are simply new weapons, they are not god-like because you essentially paid for them, they are simply new weapons to use and ulock stuff with. Lets say hypothetically 343i adds the Needle Rifle into Halo 4 with Castle, you can use them on Castle maps and any other map in the game, it does not mean it’s going to be a god-weapon and two shot enemies, it is more or less a new item to get commendations for, as well as a new toy to play with in the sandbox.

Be happy Halo 4 isn’t like GoW: Judgment (which I recently picked up) you have to pay MSP for each weapon skin, character skin, and you can even pay for double XP matches, the worst part is, the skins are disk-locked content, the content is there, on your disk you paid 65$ for, and you have to pay more to unlock it. The skins arent cheap either, they’re like 3$ a piece and there are about 25 of them.

Paying for Gold to experience SpOPS, is a rather small price to pay. Live is only 5$ a month and thats if you pay full retail for it. Best Buy had 12 months a couple weeks ago for 34.99$, thats less than 2.95$ a month, pretty cheap if you ask me.

Simple map packs are cool, but I find myself playng them for a few days and then going back to vanilla maps. I wish there was somthing I could bring back with me to justify my purchase better. Like the mentioned armor, weapon skins, etc.

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Mr.lunch, I am awaiting a reply.

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Lunch? You gunna reply?

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I’d go for more maps. I generally don’t like the gimmicks of “Map Packs” that give you Characters and Armor and Emblems and that crap. Point is, I shouldn’t have to pay for the stuff I don’t want to.

If they want to release side DLC with that stuff, that is fine. But don’t include it with the maps to raise the price.

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> I’d go for more maps. I generally don’t like the gimmicks of “Map Packs” that give you Characters and Armor and Emblems and that crap. Point is, I shouldn’t have to pay for the stuff I don’t want to.
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> If they want to release side DLC with that stuff, that is fine. But don’t include it with the maps to raise the price.

I think the way Battlefield 3’s expansions are done is great! Four maps plus a ton of other stuff, I hate to say it but even Bo2’s first map pack is a pretty good value, 4 MP maps plus a co-op zombies map, plus a new gun? Pretty good if you ask me. Currently Halo 4’s map packs are not the best when it comes to value, just three maps for 10$? I would happily pay 5$ more ang get one to two more maps and other content.

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Adding weapons is a horrible idea. As for skins and armor I’m down with that, new vehicles specifically for new maps would be cool too.