This is kind of a random post, but like it or not, Halo 4 and 5 had so much armor customization, and I really hope more of their armor designs make it into Infinite soon. I also hope they add actual body armor customization, because right now all you can customize is the gear your character has attached to their armor pieces and not the armor itself.
Specifically, I really want to see the Warrior class armor make a return. That’s easily my favorite Spartan armor design from the 343 era and one of my favorite Halo armor designs in general. It’s been my go-to in every Halo game that it’s included in.
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Halo 4 and 5s art style just doesn’t fit in Infinte. I personally hated most of the armors although i would love for Helioskrill to come back with the same unlock method.
Also people say H5 has more customisation, most of it was just different paint jobs on the same armor and you could only choose a helmet then a whole armor set. Its safe to say H5 had the worst armor customization system since H2 and is not as good as Infinite’s.
Infinte does have a problem with how you unlock armor. Its either FOMO in the store or a temporary event pass or just a tedious time and challenge grind in the seasonal passes. We need armor like Helioskrill in H5 or Hayabusa and Recon in H3. They had difficult but specific challenges that never changed. Really gave people a great way to show off and give us something to strive for. Campaign not giving us armor in Infinite is just a crime.
While I understand your point about 343 armor not fitting, I’ve just never really understood or cared about that. It’s supposed to be the highest tech, next-gen armor that the UNSC is capable of making, so it doesn’t have to look like the old styles. And I’d take all the weird armor styles in Halo 4 and 5 over bland copy and paste armor from Infinite, where we can’t customize the chest armor at all.
Its designed to mimic Halo Reach, which for what its worth, is a more “realistic” depiction of arnor customization that allows for armor to be swapped around and equipped as needed. Noe instead of having to swap the entire upper harness to an armor set designed for concussive force multiplication, you slap some pouches on the Mark 7 and some grenades, and you’re good to go.
This in turn allows Spartans to fulfill more roles, rather than the set roles that the armor in 4 and 5 crewted for them.
From the customization front, it looks a lot better, in my opinion. The only armor sets I even remember from Halo 4 and 5 are stuff like Helioskrill and Mark 6, if only becaude I liked their designs. The rest of the stuff felt like filler and generic garbage designed to check sole boxes. None of the shoulder-pads stuck out, arm armor was only really noticeable to the user, there were very few pouches… It felt like Sci-Fi fantasy as opposed to Sci-Fi military.
It would also look extremely garish and out of place in Halo Infinite. 343 had their ressons to redesign all of the armor. Expect fan favorites to come back in the form of Mark 7 armor and Raksasha armor, because i cant see them doung a Gen 2 Core until they’ve run out of other ideas.
I understand your points, but I just don’t care if it’s realistic or makes sense. You can’t convince me that Halo 4 and 5’s armor sets would be more out of place in the game than the fractured armor and fricken cat ears, yet that’s in the game.
And if old Halo fans would be that upset about it, there is such an easy solution. Make a Mjolnir Powered Assault GEN2 armor core. Make it a separate core, and it can be the only core where the actual chest and leg armor pieces are customizable in game. Then they could simply port over all the Halo 4 and 5 armor sets. It would be more content and will make fans like me that actually quite enjoyed some of 343’s unique armor designs happy.
It’s the same thing as the Firefight vs Spartan Ops debate. Why can’t we just have both?
Also, just to note. I’m in the US army, and we are allowed to wear different ballistic plate carriers, fighting load vests, chest rigs, combat belts, etc. as long as it’s in regulation. That’s basically the real-life equivalent of different Spartan armor pieces. Attaching different pieces and mag pouches would be like placing accessories on your chest rig or fighting load vest.
The thing is, is that the Samurai Armor and the Cat Ears look the part of Halo Infinite armor. This same complaint would also be true of taking Halo Reach or Halo 3 assets and placing them into Halo Infinite’s engine unaltered. It would look extremely bizarre, and not fit the art-style.
If you were to compare Mark 7 GEN 3 in this game to any of the GEN 2 armors in Halo 4 or 5, side by side, they would look weird. They would not look like they belong to the same franchise, because the design philosophy behind both are wildly different. If you want Halo 4 and 5 armor in Halo Infinite, your best bet is that they add it to the new cores like Lone Wolves and Mark 7, as well as any other cores they add in the future. I highly doubt they will ever add a GEN 2 core to this game, if only because it would necessitate redesigns, as we’ve seen with the GEN 2 armor that has been updated for the Mark 7.
Right, but the problem with Halo 4 and 5 armor is that each armor set is relegated to a specific task and is non-interchangeable unless you’re at a location where armor can be interchanged.
This means that if Spartans were, to put this into a lore argument, need to be redeployed from something related to explosives, into a frontline fighting capacity, they would need to change out the armor at home-base, and then move back to the front. This is an issue specific to GEN 2, and is not shared by GEN 1 or GEN 3, because the armor itself is the base, rather than the undersuit. This is why I think the GEN 2 is an over designed piece of garbage that the UNSC replaced going into Infinite, as they needed a modular suit that could be changed as the fight went on, rather than needing to haul Spartan Changing Booths with them everywhere.
Anyway, lore reasons put aside, the main reason they probably won’t bring back GEN 2 for a long, long time, is that it’s design just isn’t going to match what we presently have. It would be like having Warhammer 40K Space Marines alongside the Frames from Warframe in the same game. Sure you can make them visually look similar to bring the art-style closer together, but trying to draw a connection between the two just isn’t going to wrok.
So to the armor point. People like me didn’t want cat ears and think they are just stupid. We also hate the H4 and H5 armors in general; there are some exceptions like Helioskrill.
Halo had a general design up through Reach (maybe, not a huge fan of Reach so maybe only through 3). Even stuff like Hayabusa fit because it was cool and fit that classic Halo art style.
H4 and 5 on the other hand don’t even come close. They are way over designed. Many others and I would like to play a game with a cohesive art style. We don’t want people to have the option to be able to choose armors that don’t match it. It pulls you out of the game and makes you think “oh yeah im playing a video game and that (insert H4 or H5 or something akin to cat ears here) looks like its from a different game”. This is the same sentiment people had when 343 added more armors to H3. It just doesn’t fit.
I am not sure where people get the idea you should be able to look like whatever you want when playing a game. Even in real life every game has rules. Uniforms, gear, equipment, team colors, etc. By the rules of monopoly you can’t play with pieces other than the ones that come in a box. Sure someone could use a plastic toy car as their player piece but everyone looking at it knows that its not part of the game. Sure it looks similar to the metal car player piece but its not. In a videogame it just looks stupid to go ahead and include a armor that looks like that plastic toy car.
The samurai armor absolutely stays within normal Halo armors, now the new fracture stuff that looks like Fallout Power armor does not, so yeah we could get rid of that too while we are at it.
Long story short, i don’t want to play games with armor that looks like its either from another game series entirely or is made by some modder. It just doesn’t belong, but alas after H4 came out i knew 343 wasn’t going to be making the Halo i had enjoyed under Bungies rule (for the most part, i have some severe problems with Reach) and so finally getting good gameplay in Infinite with a semi return to the art style i love is the best i can get i suppose.
Dude, I don’t know why Halo fans have such a hate -Yoink!- for anything that’s even slightly different. Halo 4 and 5 armor really wasn’t that bad. And even if it is, which belive me I know there are some hideous armors in that game, who cares? If there’s even one person that likes an armor set from Halo 5, even if no one else does, I say put it in the game so they’re happy. I don’t care AT ALL about how people make their character look in the game. I hope they add Halo 5 armor just to spite all the virgins who complain about it endlessly.
First off using virgins as an insult is bad (clearly no care for morals here) and no one has been insulting anybody just discussing our options, really uncalled for.
A games art style only exists if its consistent. If not then a game has no art style. I know many others and I want to feel like everything in a game belongs there. I don’t want to one day have collaboration armors like the Doom Guy in there, which is definitely where we are heading. It just takes you out of the game and makes you focus on it.
343 had no respect for what Bungie left them and tried to remake Halo how they saw fit. Thats how we ended up with 4 and 5. That said they are capable of designing armors that fit the classic Halo art style. Just look at many of the Infinite armors and some in 4 and 5 like Helioskrill.
I guess ugly armor is more like you live in a neighborhood that was built by a builder you trusted (Bungie). The builder retires but assures you the new builder will continue growing the neighborhood (343). Now you have new neighbors (new Halo fans) moving in who don’t care about the Home Owners Association that exists so they decide to let weeds grow and litter and are horders and put out old broken toys and vehicles in their front yard. No one who was already there wanted to see this, we welcomed this new neighbor in but now they are making the whole neighborhood look bad by having trash in their yard. Most of 343s armor is that trash.
It doesn’t belong and a complete lack of respect, no its more than that, an actual disdain for the classic Halo art style and 343s desire to make something that is “their own” caused this. 343 can make good games and i personally enjoyed the multiplayer gameplay. But the gameplay of 4 and 5 and the art just don’t fit Halo. Halo 5 should have been a whole new IP with those mechanics. So to sum up, yeah it sucks to have stuff shoved into a series that many fans feel doesn’t belong. If we didn’t make our opinions heard 343 never would have gone back to a classic art style in Infinite.
Halo 4 yes i agree it wasn’t that bad and i wouldn’t mind armor like the ricochet set make a return
Halo 5 on the otherhand heck no it was absolutely bad with only a few good looking armor pieces that were new look good while the rest were either fugly or were older armor combined with pointless variations of armor and will need a redesign to fit in infinite if its not going to be on a fracture core
Bro I’m not reading all that
Ah yes, the ole “I don’t like points of view that disagree with me so I refuse to look at or even consider an argument”. Classic 
. I guess you really don’t have any compelling arguments other than you want armor in a game that doesn’t match the art style or aesthetics at all but you still want it just because, got it.
We aren’t saying none of them can come over. Just 99% shouldn’t. Armors like Helioskrill are fine but honestly most everything else doesn’t fit in.
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