343 should release their plans for the next 6 months worth of monthly updates. It would keep a lot of people happy knowing whether their ‘issue’ is being listened to and when they can expect to perhaps see it. It would stop a lot of angry speculation and give the community something worth talking about.
Personally, I don’t see the reason for the updates being kept secret. I would have thought that if 343 were planing for example, juggernaut for April and infection for May that with popular demand given by feedback from the community, they can focus on what we really want and switch development schedules around. I think it would also be good if we got to vote for what we would like to see. For example if 343 said, right we’re going to add a vehicle, what do you want Falcon? Hornet? Locust?
That would be ideal. But they would get smashed on these forums no matter what they do.
Here’s the thing, Transparency would make people feel like they’re being listened to. It would make the community happy to know exactly what they’re getting in the future.
This is why they are not telling. The mystery of not knowing what will be in the update will continually draw people back to the game in hopes that things they desired will be fixed/added. In a sense, they’re artificially extending the life of the game.
If people already knew what they would begetting from the next six months, I guarantee that there will be some people who quit playing outright because they see that their priority is not being covered.
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> Here’s the thing, Transparency would make people feel like they’re being listened to. It would make the community happy to know exactly what they’re getting in the future.
> This is why they are not telling. The mystery of not knowing what will be in the update will continually draw people back to the game in hopes that things they desired will be fixed/added. In a sense, they’re artificially extending the life of the game.
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> If people already knew what they would begetting from the next six months, I guarantee that there will be some people who quit playing outright because they see that their priority is not being covered.
I would disagree. The only thing we found out in advance was forge. and they only told us about that as a bit of damage control… Yeah Forge isn’t available on release -BUT DONT WORRY! ITS COMING OUT AROUND CHRISTMAS!
I get the feeling that the community is becoming quite cynical about the monthly updates, people having issues with yet another mongoose variant and another 20 weapon skins.
If 343 are working on something worthwhile, at least let us know something worthwhile is on the way. I’ve not bought the game yet, I’ve just have borrowed it off a friend. I don’t see any reason to buy this game if the next 6 monthly updates are going to add further skins, req variants and MAYBE a gametype in the future.
At this point, gametypes and playlists should be the only thing they’re working on.
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> At this point, gametypes and playlists should be the only thing they’re working on.
Wrong at this point the number one priority is selectable regions to search for games in. Lets have a stable product first
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It’s pretty stable in America
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And? As the figures for sales have shown 27% of the halo players are in the EU alone yet we get shafted.
There’s always the chance they don’t have everything set in stone. Maybe they’re working on implementing gametypes etc, but they can only do so much in so much time and don’t want to announce something until they know for sure it’s ready.
Plus it wouldn’t matter what they announce or when they announce it. The one thing you can depend on from this community is they will ALWAYS find something to complain about.
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> Plus it wouldn’t matter what they announce or when they announce it. The one thing you can depend on from this community is they will ALWAYS find something to complain about.
This is the main problem. The community is what’s “killing” Halo…
This would not work out, if they posted their plans and they had some kinda of delay on one of the pieces of a update, the community would destroy this place.
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> This is the main problem. The community is what’s “killing” Halo…
Yup. I’ve been saying that for a while. This is one toxic community. If 343 really doesn’t read stuff on here (as is believed by most), I don’t blame them at all. There has to be forums with more constructive/reasonable members.
People would just complain about why X is being worked on before Y.
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> Yup. I’ve been saying that for a while. This is one toxic community. If 343 really doesn’t read stuff on here (as is believed by most), I don’t blame them at all. There has to be forums with more constructive/reasonable members.
That would be the Halo subreddit IMO. There is a lot of whining there to, but there is way more love for the Halo franchise and constructive criticism. And 343i is always responding there.
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> People would just complain about why X is being worked on before Y.
^This - plans can very quickly have to change if issues arise, so something scheduled for Month A needs to be bumped to Month C because X needs fixed. They work in Sprints so they’ll have a backlog they work through and prioritise through each new Sprint. I like being surprised and looking forward to seeing what’s going to show up on the live stream each month
Because the community. Say they do that and the content they had planned for feb update needs more work and doesnt make it in feb. The community would complain. Which is also why they stopped givung out dates for when the update will drop and moved to this week
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That’s an incredibly lazy excuse. You can’t satisfy everybody so you shouldn’t try to satisfy anybody?
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> Here’s the thing, Transparency would make people feel like they’re being listened to. It would make the community happy to know exactly what they’re getting in the future.
> This is why they are not telling. The mystery of not knowing what will be in the update will continually draw people back to the game in hopes that things they desired will be fixed/added. In a sense, they’re artificially extending the life of the game.
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> If people already knew what they would begetting from the next six months, I guarantee that there will be some people who quit playing outright because they see that their priority is not being covered.
If anyone thinks this guy isn’t onto something, open up a marketing book. It may not be the only truth but the manner in which they release updates is very purposeful.
Legitimately tired with these “it’s cuz the community!” And “the community is what’s killing halo!” Posts.
Do You guys honestly think that 343, helmed by microsoft, a multi-billion dollar company, refuses to be transparent because they are concerned about small numbers of disgruntled fans?
And yes; its a small number. We complain on these forums because we want Halo to be better. It deserves better than this and fans who are content and end up becoming apologists are part of the problem. They want your money. That’s it. Literally it. Their entire job is to convince you to take money out of your wallet and give it to them. The second part of their job is making sure they don’t spend too much of their time/money in the process. It’s about churning out a profit. Folks, 343 is not some charity organization. Once Microsoft feels Halo is a financial liability, it’s gone. Farewell.
The Community is killing Halo. Yes. But not in the way you guys want to think. It’s killing Halo because so many people accept mediocrity. You accept being told “free DLC” is a good replacement for a finished game on launch plus Real DLC. You guys pretend like it’s okay we get fifteen thousand mongoose skins. And then when I say that’s lame im supposedly “entitled”?
343 is one of the least transparent companies out there, probably dead last when it comes to AAA titles. But as long as they spoon feed us something too many of us will just eat it up like it’s gosspel.
Folks, just because there is logic behind what 343 is doing doesn’t mean BETTER logic doesn’t exist.
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> Legitimately tired with these “it’s cuz the community!” And “the community is what’s killing halo!” Posts.
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> Do You guys honestly think that 343, helmed by microsoft, a multi-billion dollar company, refuses to be transparent because they are concerned about small numbers of disgruntled fans?
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> And yes; its a small number. We complain on these forums because we want Halo to be better. It deserves better than this and fans who are content and end up becoming apologists are part of the problem. They want your money. That’s it. Literally it. Their entire job is to convince you to take money out of your wallet and give it to them. The second part of their job is making sure they don’t spend too much of their time/money in the process. It’s about churning out a profit. Folks, 343 is not some charity organization. Once Microsoft feels Halo is a financial liability, it’s gone. Farewell.
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> The Community is killing Halo. Yes. But not in the way you guys want to think. It’s killing Halo because so many people accept mediocrity. You accept being told “free DLC” is a good replacement for a finished game on launch plus Real DLC. You guys pretend like it’s okay we get fifteen thousand mongoose skins. And then when I say that’s lame im supposedly “entitled”?
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> 343 is one of the least transparent companies out there, probably dead last when it comes to AAA titles. But as long as they spoon feed us something too many of us will just eat it up like it’s gosspel.
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> Folks, just because there is logic behind what 343 is doing doesn’t mean BETTER logic doesn’t exist.
preach it brotha