MONITORS IN CIVIL DISCUSSIONS

I think Monitors should restrain themselves from participating in common discussions, for primarily, using Monitor authority - which comes in an automatic manner - to strengthen the appeal of own argumentation is unfair towards mundane Waypoint users, comparable to practice of intimidation. Secondarily, Monitors may engage in discussions seeking easy reason to ban an open minded forumer pursuing unwelcome topics, which otherwise fail to fall under clear rules allowing to shut down such topics. Therefore, Monitors standing as political aspect of the Waypoint, which they have proven to be in a very distinct manner - at least to my observations - ought to maintain the position of governmental neutrality, as their involvement typically has the outlook of hidden or transparent agenda, intended or not. Objections are expected, but I rather call to your common sense than formal principles. Just be aware that it is not okay when you approve or disprove anything in a disputable matter, because there is no such thing as “civil status Monitor”, unless you go undercover.

Solely the fact of addressing Monitors in regards to the function they have may be interpreted as arguing about forum moderation decisions, which is enough to serve for a reason - and further digging to make things worse - which as you see, gives Monitors almost a free hand in silencing Waypoint users of choice. Which is why I would rather suggest embracing non-Monitor, separate accounts if actual Monitors want to simply talk to people on a normal basis, as to at least avoid provoking thoughts on “moderation decisions” in a direct manner.

In one thread on Waypoint I said Halo is going to outlive Microsoft - whatever that means - in response to which a seemingly disturbed Monitor started asking questions - as if I was threatening Microsoft - but having found me to refuse to delve into discussion with a Monitor or that particular Monitor, due to this refusal or due to already taken hidden agenda, the Monitor banned me upon a reason I still can hardly comprehend. That is basically how it does look like in practice talking to the Monitors, save for some few examples. Now mind this is an elaboration aiming to point out the qualities of Monitors partaking in civil discussions, instead of disputing over validity of taken forum moderation decisions. But perhaps one does not simply admit Microsoft one day will be no more on a Microsoft forum and get away with that? Anyway, the entire experience left a very poor impression on me.

I didn’t even get past your first sentence before I stopped reading

> I think Monitors should restrain themselves from participating in common discussions

<mark>No.</mark>
We are Community members just as much as the rest of this Halo Community here. Simply because we were given the opportunity to help keep this place clean, does not for one second mean that we shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy the forums the same as everyone else.

Ok read it now and I’ll respond to some of this

> Secondarily, Monitors may engage in discussions seeking easy reason to ban an open minded forumer pursuing unwelcome topics,

No, we don’t do this. I engage in discussion because I want to, if somebody break the rules while I’m discussing then I’ll deal with it. Honestly, I would rather not have to warn or ban people, but that involves everyone following the rules.

Regarding public discussion of moderation decisions - I think you’re very well aware that it’s against the rules of this forum. Why? Because it serves no purpose discussing those matters in public. If someone is questioning a decision inside an on-going discussion thread, that secondary discussion is off-topic and distracting form the main point of the thread. If someone creates a new thread in the Halo Wars forum or the Halo 5 forums complaining their topic got locked or they got banned - again, off topic.

We have policies and procedures in place to deal with this - if you have questions about decisions, then either contact the monitor you have a problem with or another member of the team. Still not satisfied? You’re more than welcome to take it up with the Community Managers. We keep records of users entire moderation histories including any and all correspondence between the team and the user and they will have access to all that information.

There’s always more to it that what people state on the forums though. I mean we could totally air out everyone’s dirty laundry, but we don’t, we keep users moderation histories between them and us.

> or due to already taken hidden agenda

We have no hidden agendas.
Actually, I do. I want to inject Hamish Beamish into every conceivable piece of Halo media I can. Hidden agenda no longer hidden.