The mongoose is rarely used for combat, which don’t get me wrong is fine, but if someone wants to use it for combat, like a hit and run… Perhaps allow a spartan to hold a magnum or other secondary weapon, much like how to flagnum is used. Would only be implementing light damage, but perhaps enough of a distraction, for your team mates to get the kill; or enough to weaken them, to finish with a splatter.
> The mongoose is rarely used for combat, which don’t get me wrong is fine, but if someone wants to use it for combat, like a hit and run… Perhaps allow a spartan to hold a magnum or other secondary weapon, much like how to flagnum is used. Would only be implementing light damage, but perhaps enough of a distraction, for your team mates to get the kill; or enough to weaken them, to finish with a splatter.
Unsure. As you say the Magnum, but that would also suggest any other weapons that could be used in single hand be used as well, which, if we saw a return of the SMG and Plasma Rifle, that would be nice, but what if you could do it with the PP? that could be some Hijinkery right there…
> > The mongoose is rarely used for combat, which don’t get me wrong is fine, but if someone wants to use it for combat, like a hit and run… Perhaps allow a spartan to hold a magnum or other secondary weapon, much like how to flagnum is used. Would only be implementing light damage, but perhaps enough of a distraction, for your team mates to get the kill; or enough to weaken them, to finish with a splatter.
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> Unsure. As you say the Magnum, but that would also suggest any other weapons that could be used in single hand be used as well, which, if we saw a return of the SMG and Plasma Rifle, that would be nice, but what if you could do it with the PP? that could be some Hijinkery right there…
Really amused that you said that, as I thought of the idea when I made the poll. Perhaps all dual-wieldable based weapons; as they are versatile when dual-wielded, but weak singularly. The mongoose’s mobility would give good cause for their use, and see the mongoooses in more situations. I added the Needler, as it is a one-handed weapon, it is classified as a power weapon but a minor one. The Needler would add an alternative to make the mongoose actually feared.
> > > The mongoose is rarely used for combat, which don’t get me wrong is fine, but if someone wants to use it for combat, like a hit and run… Perhaps allow a spartan to hold a magnum or other secondary weapon, much like how to flagnum is used. Would only be implementing light damage, but perhaps enough of a distraction, for your team mates to get the kill; or enough to weaken them, to finish with a splatter.
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> > Unsure. As you say the Magnum, but that would also suggest any other weapons that could be used in single hand be used as well, which, if we saw a return of the SMG and Plasma Rifle, that would be nice, but what if you could do it with the PP? that could be some Hijinkery right there…
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> Really amused that you said that, as I thought of the idea when I made the poll. Perhaps all dual-wieldable based weapons; as they are versatile when dual-wielded, but weak singularly. The mongoose’s mobility would give good cause for their use, and see the mongoooses in more situations. I added the Needler, as it is a one-handed weapon, it is classified as a power weapon but a minor one. The Needler would add an alternative to make the mongoose actually feared.
With the needler’s current design, no. with reach’s, yes. Halo 4’s Needler is so situational it’s ridiculous, and its ammo count is pathetic and plain unbalanced. the speed of the mongoose coupled with H4’s crappy needler? nope. But Halo Reach’s would be perfect.
> > > > The mongoose is rarely used for combat, which don’t get me wrong is fine, but if someone wants to use it for combat, like a hit and run… Perhaps allow a spartan to hold a magnum or other secondary weapon, much like how to flagnum is used. Would only be implementing light damage, but perhaps enough of a distraction, for your team mates to get the kill; or enough to weaken them, to finish with a splatter.
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> > > Unsure. As you say the Magnum, but that would also suggest any other weapons that could be used in single hand be used as well, which, if we saw a return of the SMG and Plasma Rifle, that would be nice, but what if you could do it with the PP? that could be some Hijinkery right there…
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> > Really amused that you said that, as I thought of the idea when I made the poll. Perhaps all dual-wieldable based weapons; as they are versatile when dual-wielded, but weak singularly. The mongoose’s mobility would give good cause for their use, and see the mongoooses in more situations. I added the Needler, as it is a one-handed weapon, it is classified as a power weapon but a minor one. The Needler would add an alternative to make the mongoose actually feared.
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> With the needler’s current design, no. with reach’s, yes. Halo 4’s Needler is so situational it’s ridiculous, and its ammo count is pathetic and plain unbalanced. the speed of the mongoose coupled with H4’s crappy needler? nope. But Halo Reach’s would be perfect.
100% Agree the classic needler feel is gone, it requires careful burst fire… rather than the classic hold and watch tactic.
No need to modify the Mongoose, we need a new vehicle that lets the weapon be the “horn.”
The Wildcat.
Single-seat, attack scout vehicle. Comes in 2 configurations at least, detachable/attachable SAW and Railgun, perhaps other weapons. (For gameplay, infinite ammo but not bottomless clip when attached. Ammo reserves do not replenish unless found elsewhere when detached. Options to tweak this further would be sweet.)
UNSC on-ground battle assessments recognise the merits of both a low profile yet self sufficient scout vehicle and the battlefield versatility of an armoured attack vehicle.
As such the UNSC has created a paired vehicle to escort the proven Mongoose, the Wildcat.
The Wildcat is just as fast, agile and very similar in profile with the Mongoose, also equipped with destructible armour plating that protects the driver. Drivers must make direct line-of-sight to engage with attached weapons but those weapons are very capable of taking down single infantry, and with some finesse, armoured vehicles and large groups of infantry.
Armour plating protects the driver from most non-explosive damage until destroyed from horizontal vectors. However the head of the driver and the need for battlefield awareness prevents said head from being protected.
The targeting reticle is independent from the driving directional chevron. Theoretically a player can make a strafing-drift shot due to the static nature of the attached weapons.
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My vote is for the wildcat!
> > The mongoose is rarely used for combat, which don’t get me wrong is fine, but if someone wants to use it for combat, like a hit and run… Perhaps allow a spartan to hold a magnum or other secondary weapon, much like how to flagnum is used. Would only be implementing light damage, but perhaps enough of a distraction, for your team mates to get the kill; or enough to weaken them, to finish with a splatter.
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> Unsure. As you say the Magnum, but that would also suggest any other weapons that could be used in single hand be used as well, which, if we saw a return of the SMG and Plasma Rifle, that would be nice, but what if you could do it with the PP? that could be some <mark>Hijinkery</mark> right there…
You have no idea of the Hijinx and Hijax that occurs when your passenger has a Plasma Pistol.
I think the Mongoose is fine as is. I’d rather the driver worry about driving and passenger worry about shooting. 
> You have no idea of the Hijinx and Hijax that occurs when your passenger has a Plasma Pistol.
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> I think the Mongoose is fine as is. I’d rather the driver worry about driving and passenger worry about shooting.
I agree with this.
With the right combinations of driver, passenger, power weapon and speed I think the Mongoose is already a quite useful and fun vehicle.
None of the other vehicles allows such a variety of “turrets”. 
Aside the Splaser and Sniper on wheels, the mini-gauss-hog (Mongoose and Railgun) has become one of my new favorite combinations.
Personally, I would perhaps only increase its acceleration, to “protect” the occupants more.
With the current state of 4’s gameplay, having a front mounted weapon on the mongoose would at least let players be in it for longer than they typically are now, I would think at least.
The driver shouldn’t have a weapon. The passenger should.
It continues the UNSC tradition of their vehicles being teamwork based; Warthog, Falcon.
And giving the weapon to the driver is ineffective. Because of how the vehicle operates, wheels, any fixed weapon will be hard to aim and force the driver into long swooping strafing runs. If you aim and drive using separate sticks, you run into control problems.
Passenger would just be better off with a vehicle bound SAW, Railgun or perhaps Sticky Detonator.
The Mongoose should NOT give ANY form of weaponry to the driver whatsoever. Nor should it force a mounted weapon on the passenger.
Traditionally, UNSC vehicles give the firepower to the passengers, rather than the driver. This exists with all UNSC vehicles except for the Scorpion, Hornet, and the Mantis. Throughout most of Halo’s sandbox, UNSC vehicles require teamwork to utilize, and Covenant vehicles revolve around individual effort. If we were to give the Mongoose a driver-based weapon, it’d just be a Ghost running on wheels - how creative.
Having mounted weapons on the Mongoose given to the passenger would harm it as well. Part of the greatness of a Mongoose is that you can equip it with any weapon of your choosing. If you want to attack with spray and pray methods, your passenger would equip a SAW. If you want to blast your enemies to hell, your passenger would equip a Rocket Launcher, or even a Fuel Rod Gun. Having forced, mounted weapons would restrict the vehicle, and you wouldn’t be able to carry objectives with it - thus defeating a major purpose.
> > > > > The mongoose is rarely used for combat, which don’t get me wrong is fine, but if someone wants to use it for combat, like a hit and run… Perhaps allow a spartan to hold a magnum or other secondary weapon, much like how to flagnum is used. Would only be implementing light damage, but perhaps enough of a distraction, for your team mates to get the kill; or enough to weaken them, to finish with a splatter.
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> > > > Unsure. As you say the Magnum, but that would also suggest any other weapons that could be used in single hand be used as well, which, if we saw a return of the SMG and Plasma Rifle, that would be nice, but what if you could do it with the PP? that could be some Hijinkery right there…
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> > > Really amused that you said that, as I thought of the idea when I made the poll. Perhaps all dual-wieldable based weapons; as they are versatile when dual-wielded, but weak singularly. The mongoose’s mobility would give good cause for their use, and see the mongoooses in more situations. I added the Needler, as it is a one-handed weapon, it is classified as a power weapon but a minor one. The Needler would add an alternative to make the mongoose actually feared.
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> > With the needler’s current design, no. with reach’s, yes. Halo 4’s Needler is so situational it’s ridiculous, and its ammo count is pathetic and plain unbalanced. the speed of the mongoose coupled with H4’s crappy needler? nope. But Halo Reach’s would be perfect.
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> 100% Agree the classic needler feel is gone, it requires careful burst fire… rather than the classic hold and watch tactic.
Careful burst firing requires more skill and patience, which IMO, is much better than the Classic “spray and pray” Needler.
> Having mounted weapons on the Mongoose given to the passenger would harm it as well. Part of the greatness of a Mongoose is that you can equip it with any weapon of your choosing. If you want to attack with spray and pray methods, your passenger would equip a SAW. If you want to blast your enemies to hell, your passenger would equip a Rocket Launcher, or even a Fuel Rod Gun. Having forced, mounted weapons would restrict the vehicle, and you wouldn’t be able to carry objectives with it - thus defeating a major purpose.
Personally I’m looking at it from a having my cake and eating it too perspective.
Yes it’s (or was) great to get a Brute Shot and Sniper Rifle and go trick shotting with the Mongoose on Valhalla. But realistically for the majority of players, getting one power weapon (let alone two) in addition to a decent driver and gunner ranks high up there on the improbability chart.
I say equip the player with a PW (SAW/RG/SD) on the Mongoose if and only if they have a loadout weapon equipped. If they have any Power Weapon or sub Power Weapon (from Rockets to Conc Rifle respectively) then the Mongoose tied PW is disabled. If they are carrying the objective the Mongoose tied PW is disabled.
Where’s the “I like the Mongoose unarmed” choice on your poll?
I believe that giving the Mongoose mounted weapons would make it too similar to the Ghost, and that in its current form it is a more versatile vehicle that serves a different purpose.
I will say this: if there were to be any changes to the Mongoose’s design, I’d prefer it to take on a more motorcycle-esque appearance like THIS. Performance-wise, I’d like to see it be a bit faster and more maneuverable than the Warthog (more like it was in Halo 3, I suppose). To me, it currently feels too clumsy and could use more fluid movement like that of a motorcycle.
> The Mongoose should NOT give ANY form of weaponry to the driver whatsoever. Nor should it force a mounted weapon on the passenger.
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> Traditionally, UNSC vehicles give the firepower to the passengers, rather than the driver. This exists with all UNSC vehicles except for the Scorpion, Hornet, and the Mantis. Throughout most of Halo’s sandbox, UNSC vehicles require teamwork to utilize, and Covenant vehicles revolve around individual effort. If we were to give the Mongoose a driver-based weapon, it’d just be a Ghost running on wheels - how creative.
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> Having mounted weapons on the Mongoose given to the passenger would harm it as well. Part of the greatness of a Mongoose is that you can equip it with any weapon of your choosing. If you want to attack with spray and pray methods, your passenger would equip a SAW. <mark>If you want to blast your enemies to hell, your passenger would equip a Rocket Launcher, or even a Fuel Rod Gun</mark>. Having forced, mounted weapons would restrict the vehicle, and you wouldn’t be able to carry objectives with it - thus defeating a major purpose.
I rarely see this however.
The mongoose should remain unarmed, the whole purpose of the mongoose is to use the teamwork of having an armed passenger to do hit and run kind of tactics.
Instead of a armed mongoose why not a motorbike so it’s like the unsc equivalent of a ghost
> Instead of a armed mongoose why not a motorbike so it’s like the unsc equivalent of a ghost
How about this it is a suggested vehicle by Megabloks to 343 Industries. It is called the Siege Bike.
Nice lol