So I’ve finally got my first five mongoose’s destroyed. Seventy more to go.
I’ve seen this brought up several times before, but unlike the Plasma Pistol tip thread I haven’t seen much advice for downing the seventy-five vehicles to master the commendation.
So far I’ve been having the most luck in Big team Skirmish, where CTF seems to get picked a lot and mongoose drivers are plentiful. The problem arises when it comes to actually destroying the little monsters. I got lucky - relatively - when my first kill in the match was a double-stuck mongoose which brought me to the first five mongooses, at the cost of also betraying a team mate who ran up to club the driver for some reason.
During the match, I’ve stuck three mongooses with Sticky Denators, grenades, and a rocket. They all killed the driver but not the mongoose itself. EMPing them to soften them up rarely does much, since the driver is rarely stupid enough to remain on the vehicle for me to blow it up. Only once did the driver remain on, but the mongoose survived (The grenade landed by the vehicle, but didn’t stick it)
So, has anyone come up with a good way to reliably knock off mongooses?
I’ve seen mantises recommended, but I rarely see people jump in mongooses in game modes the warmech shows up in.
> > So I’ve finally got my first five mongoose’s destroyed. Seventy more to go.
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> Nope. If you have 5 destroyed then you need an additional 160 to master it.
Right, I misread the commendation page on the wiki… It’s 75 to finish ‘Master’ rank ><
I don’t know anyone who has gotten this. It is really the only commendation I find next to impossible. Next to this is tank. The only way I could see anyone getting this commendation is getting a full party of 16 to go into BTB or a full party to go into CTF with the full intention of getting mongoose kills. It would take a while for everyone to get their mongoose kills because the party would have to be big, but at least it would be done. Same for Tanks.
I have tried several techniques (damaging the mongoose, then driving it to the enemies and trying to get them to board it, then sticking it, and a few other techniques) but I have gotten hardly any mongoose kills.
I don’t like to boost for things like this, (I am one of the few who did plasma pistol kills legitimately) but this is just impossible.
> I have tried several techniques (damaging the mongoose, then driving it to the enemies and trying to get them to board it, then sticking it, and a few other techniques) but I have gotten hardly any mongoose kills.
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> I don’t like to boost for things like this, (I am one of the few who did plasma pistol kills legitimately) but this is just impossible.
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> wow haha that turned into a rant.
I don’t think it’s possible not to rant about the Mongoose Destroyer - it’s perhaps the one thing I’ve found about Halo 4 I dislike immensely. ^^
All of my mongoose kills have been luck, or because of a driver who wasn’t interested in playing the game - only in driving the vehicles - and thus would not get out even when shot. In fact, that composed three of my five mongoose kills! The others were lucky CTF games.
Plasma Pistol is doable - slow, but doable. However, I don’t see anyone completing the Mongoose Destroyer before Halo 5’s release, short of - as you said - getting a group together and having a house rule that everyone must be paired up on a mongoose or 343i introducing a mongoose related Action Sack variant. Or the unlikely event of their health/armor being reduced slightly. Since they’re so important to CTF games and need to have some durability for that, I don’t see them being weakened ever happening.
That being said, I was having decent luck with the Scorpion destroyer until it was replaced with the Mantis in exile. heck, my first Mongoose kill was while I was driving the Scorpion ^^
> My biggest problem with the Mongoose isn’t so much its availability (people ride 'em in CTF frequently) but the durability.
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> Can’t tell you how many times I thought I had a surefire Mongoose kill only to see the player die and the Mongoose still standing, albeit smoking.
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> Way too durable for its size.
Yup… A common sight indeed
While terribly frustrating, I do have to admit to being amused when I suicided at point-blank range with the Incineration Canon firing at a mongoose that nearly splattered me, only to kill the driver and leave the Mongoose intact. Even if it had been destroyed, the commendation article states it can’t be a Kill from the Grave
Incineration Canon - Driver dead, mongoose intact
Sticky Detonator direct stick - Driver dead, mongoose intact
Direct laser shot - Driver usually dead, mongoose intact
Mantis canon - Driver usually dead, mongoose intact unless all rockets made contact
Sticky grenade - two sticks, otherwise driver dead and mongoose intact
Rocket Launcher - Same as incineration canon
Scoripion - Only got to try this once, and it was during my first week on Halo 4. I can only assume it’s the same deal as the Rocket Launcher and Incineration canon: Driver dead, mongoose intact.
What doesn’t kill them will almost invariably cause the driver to jump out, thus nullifying your efforts. Usually, but not guaranteed.
(Excuse the double-post, I hit ‘Quote’ instead of ‘Edit’. My bad!)
I totally agree on how tough the Mongoose is to kill. I’m at adept level with 2 of 25 remaining and won’t finnish that commendation.
343 could help people out by adding in a Mongoose Rocket Kill type game.
Basically we have a driver / gunner pair, and the gunner has a rocket launcher / incineration cannon / fuel rod cannon (their choice of loadouts) with infinite ammo, but normal re-load times. To make it fair, all commendations, medals , achievements, kills and points are split 50 - 50, otherwise no one will want to be a driver. Also, weapons will not fire if the gunner is not on a mongoose with a driver to - which prevents camping too.
That would likely be a fun game type and help people get the mongoose destroyer as well as those heavy weapon commendations too.
Given all the neat Action Sack gametypes being added, I figure something involving Mongooses will come around eventually. I highly doubt many people - if any - will have it mastered by then.
When I don’t know, but I hope it’s soon. It wouldn’t be out of place, and given how hard mongooses are to destroy, I’m sure a lot of people would be eager to try mastering it and thus voting for a variant with them should they come up.
What harm would adding such a variant be? ^^
> > Direct laser shot - Driver usually dead, mongoose intact
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> Not if you aim for the part of the Mongoose that’s not covered up by the driver.
I’ll have to try that, but my experiences have been somewhat poor. Either the mongoose survives or they both survive =/
And yes, I am a pretty bad aim with the laser when it comes to moving targets.
343i could create an Action Sack gametype; sort of a one-sided version of Race (the Race equivalent of 1-Flag CTF, more or less) with one team driving around a racetrack with Mongooses and the other team in the middle with Spartan Lasers.
Could also be useful for getting Spartan Laser kills towards UNSC Ordnance Mastery. Sound good?
> Perfect idea:
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> 343i could create an Action Sack gametype; sort of a one-sided version of Race (the Race equivalent of 1-Flag CTF, more or less) with one time driving around a racetrack with Mongooses and the other team in the middle with Spartan Lasers.
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> Could also be useful for getting Spartan Laser kills towards UNSC Ordnance Mastery. Sound good?
Make it happen. I would love this. Mongoose kills and I’d get closer to my favorite stance…Breach.
> My biggest problem with the Mongoose isn’t so much its availability (people ride 'em in CTF frequently) but the durability.
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> Can’t tell you how many times I thought I had a surefire Mongoose kill only to see the player die and the Mongoose still standing, albeit smoking.
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> Way too durable for its size.
Its a four wheeler!
Should not be able to take a splazer and still be running
> > Perfect idea:
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> > 343i could create an Action Sack gametype; sort of a one-sided version of Race (the Race equivalent of 1-Flag CTF, more or less) with one time driving around a racetrack with Mongooses and the other team in the middle with Spartan Lasers.
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> > Could also be useful for getting Spartan Laser kills towards UNSC Ordnance Mastery. Sound good?
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> Make it happen. I would love this. Mongoose kills and I’d get closer to my favorite stance…Breach.
> > > Perfect idea:
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> > > 343i could create an Action Sack gametype; sort of a one-sided version of Race (the Race equivalent of 1-Flag CTF, more or less) with one time driving around a racetrack with Mongooses and the other team in the middle with Spartan Lasers.
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> > > Could also be useful for getting Spartan Laser kills towards UNSC Ordnance Mastery. Sound good?
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> > Make it happen. I would love this. Mongoose kills and I’d get closer to my favorite stance…Breach.
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> I would play the crap out of it!
I’d play it a ton as well. ^^
Sounds a lot like a community made Reach race game where one team had to get to the goal with mongooses, the other team spawned on a platform in the middle with sniper rifles and had to take them out.
Plus it’s very satisfying to kill someone with the laser~
> The only way I could see anyone getting this commendation is getting a full party of 16 to go into BTB or a full party to go into CTF with the full intention of getting mongoose kills. It would take a while for everyone to get their mongoose kills because the party would have to be big, but at least it would be done. Same for Tanks.
I’m going to start hosting lobbies for this after reading your post. I’ll be hosting these kind of lobbies from now until the Champions bundle release. Anyone who would want to join one can send me a message at any time saying they want to go for the mongoose commendation.
BTW you would only need 8 people if everyone has the castle maps, because the mongooses spawn in lightning flag on these maps.
> > The only way I could see anyone getting this commendation is getting a full party of 16 to go into BTB or a full party to go into CTF with the full intention of getting mongoose kills. It would take a while for everyone to get their mongoose kills because the party would have to be big, but at least it would be done. Same for Tanks.
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> I’m going to start hosting lobbies for this after reading your post. I’ll be hosting these kind of lobbies from now until the Champions bundle release. Anyone who would want to join one can send me a message at any time saying they want to go for the mongoose commendation.
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> BTW you would only need 8 people if everyone has the castle maps, because the mongooses spawn in lightning flag on these maps.
Lightning Flag? Where everything is a one-shot kill? Does that apply to hitting vehicles too?
In any case, I’d be up for that if a few other people were in an it didn’t involve people just parking next to eachother shooting until they die and repeating until the game ends. I’d like to complete Mongoose Destroyer yes, but… ^^
