Anyone else notice how DMR is the only weapon being used? (Those of you who watch the MLG Dallas Stream)
I sense an inbound nerf sometime soon (I hope).
Kinda surprised since it’s a close map right now. BR would be better suited for adrift.
Yeah, same on Machinimas stream before they got banned lol, BR FTW!
The announcers say its because of Reach but…
They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
Gee, it wasn’t like everyone who said the DMR was better than the BR were totally right all along now was it?
And why would you nerf the DMR?
Stop nerfing. Nerfing is bad.
BUFF THE OTHER WEAPONS FOR ONCE.
> Kinda surprised since it’s a close map right now. BR would be better suited for adrift.
There is never a situation where the BR is better suited than the DMR…
> The announcers say its because of Reach but…
>
> They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
But the killtimes in mlg would be almost identical.
Especially since the ROF differences are negated due to both guns being a 3sk. I think it’s because of reach tbh. That or the fact that the rumors got to mlg and they haven’t realized that the kill times aren’t much diffrent
yeah BR needs a buff. I haven’t seen a BR in use yet in the MLG competition.
> Gee, it wasn’t like everyone who said the DMR was better than the BR were totally right all along now was it?
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> And why would you nerf the DMR?
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> Stop nerfing. Nerfing is bad.
>
> BUFF THE OTHER WEAPONS FOR ONCE.
I agree, buff every other primary to one less shot to kill would make the Light Rifle and carbine actually usable and give that BR an advantage at close range.
But how most people tweak games (unfortunately) is by nerfing one weapon because its easier to nerf one than buff all. If they do nerf though, I hope they just slow down the rate of fire. I think that would be the best thing to do, making 6 shots to kill would be overkill and increasing bloom would worsen the gun at longer range which is what its supposed to be suited for.
> > The announcers say its because of Reach but…
> >
> > They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
>
> But the killtimes in mlg would be almost identical.
>
> Especially since the ROF differences are negated due to both guns being a 3sk. I think it’s because of reach tbh. That or the fact that the rumors got to mlg and they haven’t realized that the kill times aren’t much diffrent
Kill times are same, but BR struggles at far range, AND having a burst weapon is worse than having semi auto IF your aim is good. All in all, DMR trumps BR in almost all situations. Like people said, there is no reason NOT to use the DMR which is sad.
> yeah BR needs a buff. I haven’t seen a BR in use yet in the MLG competition.
Not only BR mate, the Light Rifle and Carbine are so bad right no they might as well not be in the game. Those 2 I can tell need a buff just from the amount of shots to kill it takes for either of them. Did you hear the Dr Pepper ad thing rip the Carbine a new one?
> > > The announcers say its because of Reach but…
> > >
> > > They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
> >
> > But the killtimes in mlg would be almost identical.
> >
> > Especially since the ROF differences are negated due to both guns being a 3sk. I think it’s because of reach tbh. That or the fact that the rumors got to mlg and they haven’t realized that the kill times aren’t much diffrent
>
> Kill times are same, but BR struggles at far range, AND having a burst weapon is worse than having semi auto IF your aim is good. All in all, DMR trumps BR in almost all situations. Like people said, there is no reason NOT to use the DMR which is sad.
It’s easier to fight against strafing however at this high level of play your not gonna need help with that. On matchmaking it will combat strafing effectively compare to the dmr.
If the br’s rate of fire was higher than it would fix this problem.
> > > > The announcers say its because of Reach but…
> > > >
> > > > They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
> > >
> > > But the killtimes in mlg would be almost identical.
> > >
> > > Especially since the ROF differences are negated due to both guns being a 3sk. I think it’s because of reach tbh. That or the fact that the rumors got to mlg and they haven’t realized that the kill times aren’t much diffrent
> >
> > Kill times are same, but BR struggles at far range, AND having a burst weapon is worse than having semi auto IF your aim is good. All in all, DMR trumps BR in almost all situations. Like people said, there is no reason NOT to use the DMR which is sad.
>
> It’s easier to fight against strafing however at this high level of play your not gonna need help with that. On matchmaking it will combat strafing effectively compare to the dmr.
Well thing is, people think that burst is better for strafing, but its not. If you only hit 1/3 with a burst and miss a full shot with DMR, you will be able to fire the DMR faster than you wils a second burst with BR
> If the br’s rate of fire was higher than it would fix this problem.
BR’s rate of fire is SO much higher than previous games. If they speed it up any more, it might as well be an accurate AR. If they tweak the BR, it should be damage.
> > > > > The announcers say its because of Reach but…
> > > > >
> > > > > They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
> > > >
> > > > But the killtimes in mlg would be almost identical.
> > > >
> > > > Especially since the ROF differences are negated due to both guns being a 3sk. I think it’s because of reach tbh. That or the fact that the rumors got to mlg and they haven’t realized that the kill times aren’t much diffrent
> > >
> > > Kill times are same, but BR struggles at far range, AND having a burst weapon is worse than having semi auto IF your aim is good. All in all, DMR trumps BR in almost all situations. Like people said, there is no reason NOT to use the DMR which is sad.
> >
> > It’s easier to fight against strafing however at this high level of play your not gonna need help with that. On matchmaking it will combat strafing effectively compare to the dmr.
>
> Well thing is, people think that burst is better for strafing, but its not. If you only hit 1/3 with a burst and miss a full shot with DMR, you will be able to fire the DMR faster than you wils a second burst with BR
they nerfed the dmr’s rate of fire. And if you only hit 1/3 you can still achieve a 5sk because you have a 2/3 shot error zone. The dmr if you miss one shot your can get raped by a good strafing br
> > If the br’s rate of fire was higher than it would fix this problem.
>
> BR’s rate of fire is SO much higher than previous games. If they speed it up any more, it might as well be an accurate AR. If they tweak the BR, it should be damage.
Not picking you both apart, this is just to point out an observation:
Two players who clearly want something done to the BR can’t determine what is best for it. and you wonder why 343 doesn’t add more competitive minded things? Learn to agree and this will help that process.
The BR is fine in its current state. As for MLG Dallas, I chose not to go. This is, in part, due to recent competitive players and how they chose to act. I don’t support those who want act like they did (and they know who they are).
> > > > > > The announcers say its because of Reach but…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
> > > > >
> > > > > But the killtimes in mlg would be almost identical.
> > > > >
> > > > > Especially since the ROF differences are negated due to both guns being a 3sk. I think it’s because of reach tbh. That or the fact that the rumors got to mlg and they haven’t realized that the kill times aren’t much diffrent
> > > >
> > > > Kill times are same, but BR struggles at far range, AND having a burst weapon is worse than having semi auto IF your aim is good. All in all, DMR trumps BR in almost all situations. Like people said, there is no reason NOT to use the DMR which is sad.
> > >
> > > It’s easier to fight against strafing however at this high level of play your not gonna need help with that. On matchmaking it will combat strafing effectively compare to the dmr.
> >
> > Well thing is, people think that burst is better for strafing, but its not. If you only hit 1/3 with a burst and miss a full shot with DMR, you will be able to fire the DMR faster than you wils a second burst with BR
>
> they nerfed the dmr’s rate of fire. And if you only hit 1/3 you can still achieve a 5sk because you have a 2/3 shot error zone. The dmr if you miss one shot your can get raped by a good strafing br
I think they should just make BR a 4 shot kill. It would have an advantage at close range, and the kill times would only be a fraction faster than the DMR so its not like it would be a huge game changer. They should at least make it if you hit all 12 bullets hit the person, it should kill them. if it takes any more than 13, then it would be a 5 shot I guess.
> > > > > > > The announcers say its because of Reach but…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They are just in denial. All powerful DMR FTW?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But the killtimes in mlg would be almost identical.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Especially since the ROF differences are negated due to both guns being a 3sk. I think it’s because of reach tbh. That or the fact that the rumors got to mlg and they haven’t realized that the kill times aren’t much diffrent
> > > > >
> > > > > Kill times are same, but BR struggles at far range, AND having a burst weapon is worse than having semi auto IF your aim is good. All in all, DMR trumps BR in almost all situations. Like people said, there is no reason NOT to use the DMR which is sad.
> > > >
> > > > It’s easier to fight against strafing however at this high level of play your not gonna need help with that. On matchmaking it will combat strafing effectively compare to the dmr.
> > >
> > > Well thing is, people think that burst is better for strafing, but its not. If you only hit 1/3 with a burst and miss a full shot with DMR, you will be able to fire the DMR faster than you wils a second burst with BR
> >
> > they nerfed the dmr’s rate of fire. And if you only hit 1/3 you can still achieve a 5sk because you have a 2/3 shot error zone. The dmr if you miss one shot your can get raped by a good strafing br
>
> I think they should just make BR a 4 shot kill. It would have an advantage at close range, and the kill times would only be a fraction faster than the DMR so its not like it would be a huge game changer. They should at least make it if you hit all 12 bullets hit the person, it should kill them. if it takes any more than 13, then it would be a 5 shot I guess.
If you mean like a full 100% of a 4sk then I agree 100%
> Kinda surprised since it’s a close map right now. BR would be better suited for adrift.
I think the MLG community finally realized the BR is now a midrange weapon and the three shot burst is illogical in skilled gameplay with a more accurate single shot weapon in the sandbox.
I really have no idea why they didn’t use the Carbine in Halo 2 and Halo 3 instead of the BR. It didn’t really make sense with their awkward logic of basing skill off of headshot only ranged weapons with the least amount of randomness. In fact, you can say that they aren’t skilled enough. The only weapon they should be using is the sniper rifle, and 343 should have removed the ability to zoom in. That way only the best players can win.
> > > If the br’s rate of fire was higher than it would fix this problem.
> >
> > BR’s rate of fire is SO much higher than previous games. If they speed it up any more, it might as well be an accurate AR. If they tweak the BR, it should be damage.
>
> Not picking you both apart, this is just to point out an observation:
>
> Two players who clearly want something done to the BR can’t determine what is best for it. and you wonder why 343 doesn’t add more competitive minded things? Learn to agree and this will help that process.
>
> The BR is fine in its current state. As for MLG Dallas, I chose not to go. This is, in part, due to recent competitive players and how they chose to act. I don’t support those who want act like they did (and they know who they are).
I live near Dallas but couldn’t go because I have work in a bit. So I am just watching the stream. But back to the BR, I am not saying what will happen and I am not dictating what will happen, but I am just saying what I think is best for the gun and the gameplay balance. I could be wrong, im just sharing what I know.