This is something that has been at the back of my mind for a couple weeks now, and I think that some clarity by Grim would be awesome.
During Ghosts of Onyx, we have a considerably notable scene of Frederic-104 surviving a massive fuel rod blast; one that was described as being capable of destroying the pelican behind him in that particular moment, as well as completely vaporising an armoured Spartan III in just two shots. Many years later, we had some indirect clarification that his CENTURION-class MJOLNIR was serving as a test-bed for GEN II shielding (people repeatedly say this, can I have a source?).
My question is, how many Spartans are equipped with this shielding as of Halo 5? Are there different classes of energy shields that can be equipped as permutations? This instance brought my interest after seeing Spartan Tanaka literally smash through a massive boulder, something that would be in the gigajoule/very high megajoule range of energy and pairing well with what Frederic survived. These two instances are far beyond what we see Gen I surviving (a few 50mm rounds at the most) and especially lower-tier Gen II permutations (such as Bucks HELLJUMPER armour), which can be brought down by sustained battle rifle fire.
Also, what about the rest of Blue Team? Are they equipped with this same shielding? Thanks!
This article is the source that Fred’s armor was a prototype for GEN2.
As of Halo 5, I think we’re supposed to believe that standard GEN2 shielding is that shielding. Outside of the games, almost all Covenant weapons are very powerful and can pretty much vaporize physical material, including metal - with shielding being the only material that’s inherently able to really resist plasma. It is possible, however, that there are multiple variants of energy shielding being tested.
Tanaka’s boulder-smashing was possible mainly due to her armor, her thrusters, and her direct-solution personality(seriously, she charges through pretty much every obstacle at several points throughout the game).
It’s safe to say Blue Team has this same shielding.
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> As of Halo 5, I think we’re supposed to believe that standard GEN2 shielding is that shielding. Outside of the games, almost all Covenant weapons are very powerful and can pretty much vaporize physical material, including metal - with shielding being the only material that’s inherently able to really resist plasma. It is possible, however, that there are multiple variants of energy shielding being tested.
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> Tanaka’s boulder-smashing was possible mainly due to her armor, her thrusters, and her direct-solution personality(seriously, she charges through pretty much every obstacle at several points throughout the game).
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> It’s safe to say Blue Team has this same shielding.
I can agree with covenant small-arms being in the single-digit megajoule range, as they have the showings to back that up (destroying staircases, killing with a near-miss). What I’m struggling to grasp is the idea that all Gen II armour systems could take energy hundreds, if not thousands, of times more powerful than that. Select few Spartans having this kind of shielding (like certain Osiris characters and Blue Team) I can get behind, as Chief is probably going to need those shields against Forerunner sentinels.
Halo: Bad Blood as well as it’s prequel both gave emphasis on the Gen II armour being designed for fast infiltration and corridor-scale combat, rather than soaking up the damage from weapons that can destroy a pelican in a single shot (Frederic), and soloing an entire army (Linda).
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> As of Halo 5, I think we’re supposed to believe that standard GEN2 shielding is that shielding. Outside of the games, almost all Covenant weapons are very powerful and can pretty much vaporize physical material, including metal - with shielding being the only material that’s inherently able to really resist plasma. It is possible, however, that there are multiple variants of energy shielding being tested.
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> Tanaka’s boulder-smashing was possible mainly due to her armor, her thrusters, and her direct-solution personality(seriously, she charges through pretty much every obstacle at several points throughout the game).
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> It’s safe to say Blue Team has this same shielding.
Also, the rock she smashed through seems to be metamorphic (I think thats it…its definently volcanic in origin from the color and the way its shaped) in constitution. Most metamorphic rocks tend to be brittle and filled with gas pockets, and some is so soft you can crumble it with your bare hands.
A Spartan moving that fast with that much force could punch through it easy
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> Also, the rock she smashed through seems to be metamorphic (I think thats it…its definently volcanic in origin from the color and the way its shaped) in constitution. Most metamorphic rocks tend to be brittle and filled with gas pockets, and some is so soft you can crumble it with your bare hands.
> A Spartan moving that fast with that much force could punch through it easy
That could be a justifiable reason, I guess. But all that means is that her shields are similar to the other Spartan IVs - The IIs still have shields that survive a fuel rod blast that was explicitly stated to be capable of destroying the D77 Pelican behind [Frederic]. We’ve seen fuel rods in Halo 2 anniversary terminals turn Phantoms into glowing balls of fire, so it’s not a rare exception to see that kind of firepower.
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> That could be a justifiable reason, I guess. But all that means is that her shields are similar to the other Spartan IVs - The IIs still have shields that survive a fuel rod blast that was explicitly stated to be capable of destroying the D77 Pelican behind [Frederic]. We’ve seen fuel rods in Halo 2 anniversary terminals turn Phantoms into glowing balls of fire, so it’s not a rare exception to see that kind of firepower.
Well their armor is heavier so I suppose that makes sense. It always seemed to me that GEN 1 shields would be more powerful than GEN 2 cause GEN 2 is lighter and mass produced, like SPI MJLONIR style
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> Well their armor is heavier so I suppose that makes sense. It always seemed to me that GEN 1 shields would be more powerful than GEN 2 cause GEN 2 is lighter and mass produced, like SPI MJLONIR style
Agreed, the armour is very light. Assuming it was an all-covering skinsuit with the density of aluminium at 3cm thick, it’s weight is 200 kilograms already, without the fusion reactor.