An article was published yesterday stating that mt generated more money than DLC and there were increases in population with mt vs decreases with DLC. Halo 5 Microtransactions Brought More Money In 6 Months Than Previous Games’ DLC; Player Base Also Higher Than Before. As this will certainly mean mt will be in future Halo’s I hope they find a better balance between mt and commendation rewards.
Such a shame this worked its way into $60 games… Especially halo…
I don’t see why people hate the microtransactions. I can see the req system, but not the microtransactions. Good to hear that there’s proof of them working.
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> Such a shame this worked its way into $60 games… Especially halo…
Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
MT would’ve been fine if it weren’t for the cosmetics (armour, helmets and emblems) being locked behind a RNG system that requires you to grind or pay money to unlock it which may not guarantee the item you wanted and the content being ready at launch.
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> MT would’ve been fine if it weren’t for the cosmetics (armour, helmets and emblems) being locked behind a RNG system that requires you to grind or pay money to unlock it which may not guarantee the item you wanted and the content being ready at launch.
That’s the req system. Microtransactions are just being able to buy packs.
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> Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
Everyone says that, and honestly we have little to show for it so far. It’s also what the industry is riding on. They want you to think this is a better system, which in turn negates its negative effects.
Why not just have 343 make a patron? That way people who want to can support them with all kinds of money, and they dont have to monetize the gameplay.
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> > MT would’ve been fine if it weren’t for the cosmetics (armour, helmets and emblems) being locked behind a RNG system that requires you to grind or pay money to unlock it which may not guarantee the item you wanted and the content being ready at launch.
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> That’s the req system. Microtransactions are just being able to buy packs.
Well, to unlock those items, you need to buy REQ packs with RP or real money. The REQ system is tied in with microtransactions.
Either way, I’m not defending nor attacking the REQ system or the microtransaction system.
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> > > Such a shame this worked its way into $60 games… Especially halo…
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> > Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
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> Everyone says that, and honestly we have little to show for it so far. It’s also what the industry is riding on. They want you to think this is a better system, which in turn negates its negative effects.
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> Why not just have 343 make a patron? That way people who want to can support them with all kinds of money, and they dont have to monetize the gameplay.
Well 343 makes more money from MTs from people who want to buy them. They keep making free content from the money they get from MTs. People who bought the game aren’t forced to pay to get the new maps and content that 343 makes. The MTs aren’t forced, so they don’t ruin the experience for those who don’t pay.
Of course, there are still negatives. People who pay will be ahead of those who don’t. Pretty much everything is locked behind these REQ packs. However, REQs are still some of the best MTs in a $60 game. Almost no content locked behind a forced paywall, most everything can be obtained by playing the game.
Could it be better? Yes, but 343 did pretty good when compared to other games with packs.
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> > > Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
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> > Everyone says that, and honestly we have little to show for it so far. It’s also what the industry is riding on. They want you to think this is a better system, which in turn negates its negative effects.
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> > Why not just have 343 make a patron? That way people who want to can support them with all kinds of money, and they dont have to monetize the gameplay.
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> Well 343 makes more money from MTs from people who want to buy them. They keep making free content from the money they get from MTs. People who bought the game aren’t forced to pay to get the new maps and content that 343 makes. The MTs aren’t forced, so they don’t ruin the experience for those who don’t pay.
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> Of course, there are still negatives. People who pay will be ahead of those who don’t. Pretty much everything is locked behind these REQ packs. However, REQs are still some of the best MTs in a $60 game. Almost no content locked behind a forced paywall, most everything can be obtained by playing the game.
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> Could it be better? Yes, but 343 did pretty good when compared to other games with packs.
Honestly, if they just made the points easier and fun to get, I would almost totally agree with you. My biggest issue (with halo 5s system) is that at some point the only way to earn RP is through finishing matches, and thats it. I would like the see the return of daily challenges, plus not team based point system, if I get fifty kills in a match, I want to earn more points than the people behind me.
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> > > > > Such a shame this worked its way into $60 games… Especially halo…
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> > > > Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
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> > > Everyone says that, and honestly we have little to show for it so far. It’s also what the industry is riding on. They want you to think this is a better system, which in turn negates its negative effects.
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> > > Why not just have 343 make a patron? That way people who want to can support them with all kinds of money, and they dont have to monetize the gameplay.
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> > Well 343 makes more money from MTs from people who want to buy them. They keep making free content from the money they get from MTs. People who bought the game aren’t forced to pay to get the new maps and content that 343 makes. The MTs aren’t forced, so they don’t ruin the experience for those who don’t pay.
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> > Of course, there are still negatives. People who pay will be ahead of those who don’t. Pretty much everything is locked behind these REQ packs. However, REQs are still some of the best MTs in a $60 game. Almost no content locked behind a forced paywall, most everything can be obtained by playing the game.
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> > Could it be better? Yes, but 343 did pretty good when compared to other games with packs.
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> Honestly, if they just made the points easier and fun to get, I would almost totally agree with you. My biggest issue (with halo 5s system) is that at some point the only way to earn RP is through finishing matches, and thats it. I would like the see the return of daily challenges, plus not team based point system, if I get fifty kills in a match, I want to earn more points than the people behind me.
I will agree with that, challenges need to come back. Some of the funnest times in Reach were trying to get those damn weekly challenges.
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> > > > > > Such a shame this worked its way into $60 games… Especially halo…
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> > > > > Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
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> > > > Everyone says that, and honestly we have little to show for it so far. It’s also what the industry is riding on. They want you to think this is a better system, which in turn negates its negative effects.
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> > > > Why not just have 343 make a patron? That way people who want to can support them with all kinds of money, and they dont have to monetize the gameplay.
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> > > Well 343 makes more money from MTs from people who want to buy them. They keep making free content from the money they get from MTs. People who bought the game aren’t forced to pay to get the new maps and content that 343 makes. The MTs aren’t forced, so they don’t ruin the experience for those who don’t pay.
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> > > Of course, there are still negatives. People who pay will be ahead of those who don’t. Pretty much everything is locked behind these REQ packs. However, REQs are still some of the best MTs in a $60 game. Almost no content locked behind a forced paywall, most everything can be obtained by playing the game.
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> > > Could it be better? Yes, but 343 did pretty good when compared to other games with packs.
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> > Honestly, if they just made the points easier and fun to get, I would almost totally agree with you. My biggest issue (with halo 5s system) is that at some point the only way to earn RP is through finishing matches, and thats it. I would like the see the return of daily challenges, plus not team based point system, if I get fifty kills in a match, I want to earn more points than the people behind me.
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> I will agree with that, challenges need to come back. Some of the funnest times in Reach were trying to get those damn weekly chZallenges.
Lucky for us, then, that Zaedynfel has mentioned that challenges are something that will likely make it’s way back to future Halo, unfortunately not H5. The feedback has been very positive when it comes to challenges.
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> > > > > > > Such a shame this worked its way into $60 games… Especially halo…
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> > > > > > Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
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> > > > > Everyone says that, and honestly we have little to show for it so far. It’s also what the industry is riding on. They want you to think this is a better system, which in turn negates its negative effects.
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> > > > > Why not just have 343 make a patron? That way people who want to can support them with all kinds of money, and they dont have to monetize the gameplay.
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> > > > Well 343 makes more money from MTs from people who want to buy them. They keep making free content from the money they get from MTs. People who bought the game aren’t forced to pay to get the new maps and content that 343 makes. The MTs aren’t forced, so they don’t ruin the experience for those who don’t pay.
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> > > > Of course, there are still negatives. People who pay will be ahead of those who don’t. Pretty much everything is locked behind these REQ packs. However, REQs are still some of the best MTs in a $60 game. Almost no content locked behind a forced paywall, most everything can be obtained by playing the game.
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> > > > Could it be better? Yes, but 343 did pretty good when compared to other games with packs.
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> > > Honestly, if they just made the points easier and fun to get, I would almost totally agree with you. My biggest issue (with halo 5s system) is that at some point the only way to earn RP is through finishing matches, and thats it. I would like the see the return of daily challenges, plus not team based point system, if I get fifty kills in a match, I want to earn more points than the people behind me.
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> > I will agree with that, challenges need to come back. Some of the funnest times in Reach were trying to get those damn weekly chZallenges.
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> Lucky for us, then, that ZaedynFel has mentioned that challenges are something that will likely make it’s way back to future Halo, unfortunately not H5. The feedback has been very positive when it comes to challenges.
Yeah, I think Halo 6 is going to blow us away. 343 is really listening to our feedback.
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> > > MT would’ve been fine if it weren’t for the cosmetics (armour, helmets and emblems) being locked behind a RNG system that requires you to grind or pay money to unlock it which may not guarantee the item you wanted and the content being ready at launch.
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> > That’s the req system. Microtransactions are just being able to buy packs.
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> Well, to unlock those items, you need to buy REQ packs with RP or real money. The REQ system is tied in with microtransactions.
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> Either way, I’m not defending nor attacking the REQ system or the microtransaction system.
They are tied together, but we have to think of them as separate entities. What if the microtransactions were tied to Reach’s credit system and you could buy amounts of credits? That’s how you change the req system without microtransactions.
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> > > > MT would’ve been fine if it weren’t for the cosmetics (armour, helmets and emblems) being locked behind a RNG system that requires you to grind or pay money to unlock it which may not guarantee the item you wanted and the content being ready at launch.
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> > > That’s the req system. Microtransactions are just being able to buy packs.
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> > Well, to unlock those items, you need to buy REQ packs with RP or real money. The REQ system is tied in with microtransactions.
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> > Either way, I’m not defending nor attacking the REQ system or the microtransaction system.
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> They are tied together, but we have to think of them as separate entities. What if the microtransactions were tied to Reach’s credit system and you could buy amounts of credits? That’s how you change the req system without microtransactions.
I wish they did both. You could buy req packs for warzone certifications and earn armor like Reach. Then you could decide where you wanted to spend your credits and instead of buying packs you just would buy req points.
This way there would also be a point to leveling up
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> > > > That’s the req system. Microtransactions are just being able to buy packs.
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> > > Well, to unlock those items, you need to buy REQ packs with RP or real money. The REQ system is tied in with microtransactions.
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> > > Either way, I’m not defending nor attacking the REQ system or the microtransaction system.
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> > They are tied together, but we have to think of them as separate entities. What if the microtransactions were tied to Reach’s credit system and you could buy amounts of credits? That’s how you change the req system without microtransactions.
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> I wish they did both. You could buy req packs for warzone certifications and earn armor like Reach. Then you could decide where you wanted to spend your credits and instead of buying packs you just would buy req points.
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> This way there would also be a point to leveling up
That’s exactly what I want I want too. However, some feel that it can’t work with microtransactions for some reason.
MT are superior to DLC map in Halo by far and away.
The worst thing in the world was buying DLC maps and not getting to use them, quite literally ever in some cases, in MM. I’m a solo queue guy in Halo so customs not a realistic option.
So $60 for full experience vs $60 + $15 + $15 + $10 to never get matched with people.
Basically, new system allows people that have money to fund people that don’t, and everyone gets all the available content at all times (as far as playlists, map access, etc) all while making MS more money.
Who loses and where? It is amazing compared to pay to win MT that ruin games. I hope 343 keeps the system for Halo 6 but just tweaks it to also have more earned unlocks (Yes, I have every achievement and remember doing the fun annual challenges, that is only thing H5 is missing).
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> > > > Well, to unlock those items, you need to buy REQ packs with RP or real money. The REQ system is tied in with microtransactions.
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> > > > Either way, I’m not defending nor attacking the REQ system or the microtransaction system.
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> > > They are tied together, but we have to think of them as separate entities. What if the microtransactions were tied to Reach’s credit system and you could buy amounts of credits? That’s how you change the req system without microtransactions.
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> > I wish they did both. You could buy req packs for warzone certifications and earn armor like Reach. Then you could decide where you wanted to spend your credits and instead of buying packs you just would buy req points.
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> That’s exactly what I want I want too. However, some feel that it can’t work with microtransactions for some reason.
I think you can do both. There has to be a better balance in the next game.
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> I don’t see why people hate the microtransactions. I can see the req system, but not the microtransactions. Good to hear that there’s proof of them working.
Because mt are literally only there to be predatory to the player base. Sure, you might get some free stuff out of it, but if you look at most games the content that you get for “free” is usually lesser in number and often lesser in quality as well. Halo 5’s DLC schedule looks pretty good on the surface, but that’s only until you realize that the major additions for the first ~4 months was stuff that either hurt the game (fluffing up the REQ system) or things that were cut from Halo 5 to be added in later. Forge, BTB, Assault, Infection, Race, ext. should all of been there day one and the fact that they weren’t shows how mt hurt games. Another bad thing about Halo 5’s mt system is that it directly affected gameplay. Warzone was a huge part of the game that was created 100% to allow mt into Halo, and if you ask me it’s one of the worst things ever added into a Halo game. Don’t get me wrong, the base idea for Warzone is really cool. Having AI and players fighting it out in an epic match is awesome. How they so deeply rooted the REQ system in though completely ruins everything. It doesn’t feel or play like a Halo game, yet makes up at least a third of the experience.
If for Halo 6 they adapted a system more similar to Overwatch’s Loot Box system, where only cosmetic items were available AND launch with everything that Halo 5 currently has plus more, I wouldn’t be mad at mt returning. But so far Halo’s experience with mt has been a nightmare.
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> > Hey I would rather have optional MTs then pay $10 for a few maps that are required for the full matchmaking experience.
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> Everyone says that, and honestly we have little to show for it so far. It’s also what the industry is riding on. They want you to think this is a better system, which in turn negates its negative effects.
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> Why not just have 343 make a patron? That way people who want to can support them with all kinds of money, and they dont have to monetize the gameplay.
Because then people will complain how dare a AAA company like 343i/Microsoft ask the public for more money when I already gave them $60 (just like now), they’d give prizes to those who have donated to incentivize it in the first place (just like REQ packs), and we’d be right back here again.
If you want something to show for it, you have every map and playlist introduced into Halo 5 without having to pay beyond the original price of the game, while in something like Halo 3, if you didn’t have the map pack, you didn’t get to play the maps and you weren’t allowed to play half the playlists because they now include the newest map pack.