Microsoft/343i/Cheating/Ranking/Rant

People cheat at the Olympics. People are going to cheat on Halo.

K?

BLOPS2 has a better, revised, and new ranking system. Halo4 is sticking to the unpopular progression system for how long you play to make non-competitive players happy. And this credit idea, points to purchase (crap), needs to be stopped for any future Halo titles. That is for Forza Motorsports.

Bring Halo back to the old grassroots to what made it a great game. Change is welcome, but not to the elements that built this game from ground up.

I don’t care that others cheat. That is how they want to waste their life, then so be it. Maybe 343i could spend half the time instead of working on the Campaign and help Multiplayer have a player reset banhammer or make cheaters rank go visible only to themselves.

End rant/

So many things wrong with OP’s post, I don’t even know where to begin.

How do you justify cheating? and call out a company that has been working on this game for over 3 years and stating they’re not doing a good job because they aren’t doing what you want?

Stop being an entitled, elitist gamer and appreciate the hard work these people have done. Also, we don’t even know what they’re doing for the ranking system, so your rant is completely unfounded and unappreciated.

There’s so much wrong in the OPs post, I don’t think it’s worth even trying to correct him.

we will know all about the rank system come Nov 6th

What is BLOPS 2’s new system? I’m eager to hear how much different it is from the typical progression system of COD, which OP bashes in the OP.

> So many things wrong with OP’s post, I don’t even know where to begin.
>
> How do you justify cheating? and call out a company that has been working on this game for over 3 years and stating they’re not doing a good job because they aren’t doing what you want?
>
> Stop being an entitled, elitist gamer and appreciate the hard work these people have done. Also, we don’t even know what they’re doing for the ranking system, so your rant is completely unfounded and unappreciated.

Stop right there.

I said stop.

We both know the cheating exploits that Halo3 and Halo2 had with the 1-50. Don’t fool me.

I am calling out this company because for 3 years they could not come up with something better than a progression system.

I never said they were not doing a good job don’t put words in my mouth young man. My rant is completely valid.

The ranking system won’t matter, it doesn’t change the whoever sees first kills first gameplay that CoD has. (Or whoever has the better internet)
Even if there is no ranks in Halo 4 the better player will have a solid chance to kill his/her attacker if they get shot at first. The previous GAMEPLAY made the games successful not the ranking system.

here we go again

I think that Im gonna be to busy with this progression system. 343 looks to really have taken it forward a bout 20 notches from reachs rather boring system.

I like the idea of having W/L as my ranking system. Its too bad people dont see that tho.
We’ll have to see what 343 has done as well with the true skill system and how it matches people up with each other. I hope they reveal that soon so we do know what were looking at in Infnity.

> What is BLOPS 2’s new system? I’m eager to hear how much different it is from the typical progression system of COD, which OP bashes in the OP.

This is not the place to discuss in depth the BLOPS 2’s new system. It is revolutionary though, for once. And it is appealing to the competitive crowd, MLG and non MLG competitive.

> > So many things wrong with OP’s post, I don’t even know where to begin.
> >
> > How do you justify cheating? and call out a company that has been working on this game for over 3 years and stating they’re not doing a good job because they aren’t doing what you want?
> >
> > Stop being an entitled, elitist gamer and appreciate the hard work these people have done. Also, we don’t even know what they’re doing for the ranking system, so your rant is completely unfounded and unappreciated.
>
> Stop right there.
>
> I said stop.
>
> We both know the cheating exploits that Halo3 and Halo2 had with the 1-50. Don’t fool me.
>
> I am calling out this company because for 3 years they could not come up with something better than a progression system.
>
> I never said they were not doing a good job don’t put words in my mouth young man. My rant is completely valid.

You are not in a position to command anyone to do anything. 343i has not stated what their intentions are for a ranking system yet, so your rant is unfounded.

Also you may state that we should let the cheaters do what they want but that affects everyone and I’d rather have a system that is relatively cheat free and no rank then have a ranking system with tons of cheaters.

Why the obsession with having a number next to your GT so you can show off how good you are at a video game? I’m pretty sure I just answered my own question but the fact that people care about it so much is just sad. It always seems to be those whose life revolves around video games.

This is just the progression system. Frankie said that before Halo 4 is released they will announce a ranking system for the competitive players. Just wait, you’ll get what you want.

> > So many things wrong with OP’s post, I don’t even know where to begin.
> >
> > How do you justify cheating? and call out a company that has been working on this game for over 3 years and stating they’re not doing a good job because they aren’t doing what you want?
> >
> > Stop being an entitled, elitist gamer and appreciate the hard work these people have done. Also, we don’t even know what they’re doing for the ranking system, so your rant is completely unfounded and unappreciated.
>
> Stop right there.
>
> I said stop.
>
> We both know the cheating exploits that Halo3 and Halo2 had with the 1-50. Don’t fool me.
>
> I am calling out this company because for 3 years they could not come up with something better than a progression system.
>
> I never said they were not doing a good job don’t put words in my mouth young man. My rant is completely valid.

Look at it from their point Demonic. you have 100,000 casual/half competitive gamers vs 10,000 hardcore competitive want rank/MLG players…

what would you do??

I think that you forget MLG play list will most likely be making an appearance for those who want to play competitive and talk about the nasty things that you did to each others moms…

OH and to boot. I do not want cheaters in any form in the game I play. If Im one of the people who get on, on weekends only I want the best possible experience I can get and one game of cheaters can ruin it. Especially if they boot you offline

If you cheat, you will be banned and have to suffer the consequences of your actions.

If you cheat in real life, you get punished.

There is no justification for cheating in Halo and it makes the game less fun for others.

Also cheating was never tolerated in any Halo title past or present.

> >
>
> You are not in a position to command anyone to do anything. 343i has not stated what their intentions are for a ranking system yet, so your rant is unfounded.
>
> Also you may state that we should let the cheaters do what they want but that affects everyone and I’d rather have a system that is relatively cheat free and no rank then have a ranking system with tons of cheaters.

Are you telling me people don’t use this forum to command and suggest ideas? Get out.

The current system is cheat free, because nobody will being playing it in the long term. People will just quit out because who cares, there is no rank.

> > > So many things wrong with OP’s post, I don’t even know where to begin.
> > >
> > > How do you justify cheating? and call out a company that has been working on this game for over 3 years and stating they’re not doing a good job because they aren’t doing what you want?
> > >
> > > Stop being an entitled, elitist gamer and appreciate the hard work these people have done. Also, we don’t even know what they’re doing for the ranking system, so your rant is completely unfounded and unappreciated.
> >
> > Stop right there.
> >
> > I said stop.
> >
> > We both know the cheating exploits that Halo3 and Halo2 had with the 1-50. Don’t fool me.
> >
> > I am calling out this company because for 3 years they could not come up with something better than a progression system.
> >
> > I never said they were not doing a good job don’t put words in my mouth young man. My rant is completely valid.
>
> You are not in a position to command anyone to do anything. 343i has not stated what their intentions are for a ranking system yet, so your rant is unfounded.
>
> Also you may state that we should let the cheaters do what they want but that affects everyone and I’d rather have a system that is relatively cheat free and no rank then have a ranking system with tons of cheaters.

> If you cheat, you will be banned and have to suffer the consequences of your actions.
>
> If you cheat in real life, you get punished.
>
> There is no justification for cheating in Halo and it makes the game less fun for others.
>
> Also cheating was never tolerated in any Halo title past or present.

Oh it was tolerated in halo 3 and 2. They never did get rid of the host booters…Reach wasn’t so bad because there was noting to gain from it accept useless credits. I have to say as boring as reachs system was it kept the cheaters at bay to a point

> > > So many things wrong with OP’s post, I don’t even know where to begin.
> > >
> > > How do you justify cheating? and call out a company that has been working on this game for over 3 years and stating they’re not doing a good job because they aren’t doing what you want?
> > >
> > > Stop being an entitled, elitist gamer and appreciate the hard work these people have done. Also, we don’t even know what they’re doing for the ranking system, so your rant is completely unfounded and unappreciated.
> >
> > Stop right there.
> >
> > I said stop.
> >
> > We both know the cheating exploits that Halo3 and Halo2 had with the 1-50. Don’t fool me.
> >
> > I am calling out this company because for 3 years they could not come up with something better than a progression system.
> >
> > I never said they were not doing a good job don’t put words in my mouth young man. My rant is completely valid.
>
> Look at it from their point Demonic. you have 100,000 casual/half competitive gamers vs 10,000 hardcore competitive want rank/MLG players…
>
> what would you do??
>
> I think that you forget MLG play list will most likely be making an appearance for those who want to play competitive and talk about the nasty things that you did to each others moms…

They also speak the elusive Xbox LIVE language of ‘fa****’ with relative ease.

Next time, on Life, we take a look at the MLG players in their natural habitat…

Directed and produced by David Attenborough.

Just because people cheat doesn’t make it okay.

If you’d like to discuss the ranking system and express your opinions on it, you are welcome to do so in the other threads about the system however your argument of, “people cheat, that’s life” is a poor one.