Please. Please give us a mode - preferably ranked - where the microphone has to be on to function.
Not good for PC players, streamers in particular. Otherwise….why not?
PS Pablo is Masterstache.
Edit. I can’t believe so many people are talking about this being a bad thing. Specifically I’m talking about having a “mics only” playlist that lives alongside the crossplay arena playlist. So people who WANT to drop in and talk have that option.
Yes - I have a group to play with but I’m fed up of destroying teams that don’t communicate
How do you actually envisage this to work? As an example, what will happen when players mute their mic after the game starts? I don’t think this is even viable tbh.
Well - with the current ranked playlists you have a solos/duo mode, and an open mode. You can’t play in the duos mode with 3 people so you go into open. This doesn’t stop single people going into the open playlist in the same way controller solo players don’t always go into solo/duo…
Why would you go into a mics only playlist, plug your mic in and then unplug after start, then play silent…especially when there is exactly the same playlist available in the open and solo/duo playlists?
You wouldn’t is the answer.
Having the option to enter ranked with a mic and guarantee your team have one would be a massive positive. There are no downsides to this. Furthermore, the lobby could prevent start of there is no mic input - in the same way it prevents start if your party is too big.
I think you’re looking at this the wrong way tbh. The issue isn’t that players don’t have mics…it’s that they don’t use them and need to be encouraged to communicate, and that’s not an easy issue to address particularly when you have what has become an anti-social game and third party chat exists (ie XBL party chat).
There’s no way to get the stats as far as I’m aware, but I’d guess most Xbox players have and use a headset that has a mic rather than just playing with speakers. For players like myself that use a headset with built in mic, your system would detect my mic whether I had it muted or not…therefore it wouldn’t resolve the issue. Also it would detect players that have a mic but are speaking with friends in XBL party chat…again it wouldn’t resolve the issue.
I like the theory, but in practice I don’t see how this would work or catch on tbh when the issue lays firmly in players habits and personal choices to use mics and communicate with random team mates or not. I’m pretty sure the official response from 343i would be simply along the lines of “we encourage team communication, so please find new friends to play with that will communicate”.
Tbh I don’t agree with you. There are games out there already that prevent party chat, like rogue company, thus forcing players to communicate in game. If they were to simply run another requirement that the mic is plugged in I’m pretty sure you’ll have everyone who wants to play with a communicative team dropping in this playlist and communicating.
I’ve never played Rogue Company or any other games that do this. I wasn’t even aware of it tbh and certainly don’t know how it is implemented or enforced?
Most gaming headsets have a built in mic that allows you to be muted. What I’m saying is that the game would detect the mic and wouldn’t prevent players from muting themselves, and you can’t force players to communicate if they don’t want to regardless of any mic requirements to enter the playlist.
As I said before, I like the theory but I just don’t see how it would work effectively…and that’s not even taking in to account one of the reasons 343i removed pre and post game lobbies is because of all the trash and hate talk between players.
It will definitely result in a significant increase in people talking in game.
You have to remember that on the Xbox 360, where halo was in its prime, XBL party chat did not exist until like 2008…and it didn’t really catch on until 2012 when the Xbox one was launched and the process was streamlined. People don’t talk because party chat is better quality and isn’t interrupted by load screens.
So force people to talk in game instead. For thos that want to communicate it will be used. As for those wasting time…meh…these people always existed
This is like the third time I’ve seen someone post something like this, and every time I say the same thing. I don’t care if you are Microsoft themselves trying to force Kinect 2.0 privacy invasion, because you can force people to have a mic, but you can’t force people to talk or listen to your demands/commands. People will play how they want to.
Just find some friends to play with. Use Xbox LFG. Use the forums. Add some people. Get people that actually want to mic up and have teamwork. Start your own squad. Play mock HCS.
Just don’t try to force randoms to mic with you, because it will never work. Add people that do want to mic and play with them. It’s that simple. There are usually always squads recruiting people to play Ranked with. Join them.
Also the best part about playing with friends, is getting to know them better, and make routine plans for the match you guys get used to, and start to become synchronized when you play a lot together. Better than randoms. Trust me.
I’m talking about duplicating the “open” ranked matchmaking playlist to enforce communication. This is in order to provide an environment where people with mics can use them.
This would literally have no negative effect on people who don’t want to use a mic - they could just go in the normal playlist.
I have a team of 4 that communicate btw. We can tell when an enemy team is not communicating. This was where this has all come from.
I think you should just form a static squad to mic with for Ranked. Going to queue pub and forcing people to play how you want is just never gonna happen, no matter the game, no matter the mode.
As for communication, Halo Infinite gave us a Ping system, so why does no one use it? I hate how little the ping system is used because it’s actually pretty useful for calling out Power weapons, enemy locations and to direct flanks. Perhaps we need an expansion of the ping system?
I already play as a squad of 4 with mics pretty much every day of the week. You should read my other replies as I’ve addressed everything you’ve said already.
Or just group up with people who also want players who also want effective communication in their groups?
Oh, you have a group? Good! Now leave everyone else alone.
I get the concept and appeal, but these are personal issues/preferences that individuals need to solve. You want to play with players who talk, find them? You want to play against a team who talks, maybe you already are and they aren’t interested in callouts and communication, there just there for a good time, it happens.
Forcing players to put a microphone in doesn’t garuntee it’ll actually do anything.
Even if you make a playlist tailored to mic players, all you might get is non-stop verbal abuse, some kid screeching at decibels never before recorded, kinect mic mcgee playing his static concert, and a player who has a mic in, doesn’t want to talk, but is hoping for callouts because no one wants to utilize ping.
Maybe that’s all you want, then by all means, go ahead and keep advocating, but I can’t imagine 343i would devote time and effort into making a “Communications Ranked” just so that people with mics have a slightly better chance at getting someone to talk to.
People do dumb things, I’d probably play in the mic lobby because I enjoy the banter, but won’t talk myself, and by doing so cause more banter. #winning
There’s already an environment for that, the entire game, the whole game is yours with which you can use a microphone should you so desire, there is literally nobody stopping you from talking to your hearts content.
Bro I always have my mic plugged in and the switch on the cord shut off for mic input. Sometimes there’s language barriers. Sometimes people are physically incapable of speech and talk thru chat or markers. I get nonverbal episodes, you want to tell me I can’t play Halo?
There’s no way to force people to do something they don’t want to do. They have to be encouraged to make the choice on their own.
IF it’s something they’re capable of! Some people are deaf too, you expect them to participate in voice chat alone if they can’t hear what is being said? There’s a nice speech-to-text and text-to speech options but you’re still operating off the assumption that everyone can hear and speak all the time.
Well what they need to do is bring back a quick easy way to mute the players who are total yoinks on the mics. Back in the day we could see the yoinks in lobbies and quickly mute them. Well that feature was taken away for some reason and you had to unplug you mic and in the middle of them game figure out the yoink and then mute them. That is why I and many others stopped using mics and have pretty much become accustomed to not using them anymore. While I do miss mics from time to time most just get to toxic and it just doesn’t make them worth it anymore.
I think people are too hung up on nostalgia of the old halo 2 days to realise why open chat died in these games.
If people aren’t responding they have probably globally muted everyone. You can thank overly assertive players whining about how we aren’t winning because we aren’t doing what he thinks… or when we do we did it wrong… or we just suck… or potentially just having to listen to screaming kids, people playing with their music turned up… or just someone’s desk fan blowing in the mic.
Honestly no one wants forced mics… in fact most people want global mutes.
As @xXx_Mhx_Air_xXx says you are better off just using the Xbox Looking for Groups of find a discord group or something.
I think that this would be received with a lot of hate by the majority of the player base. Forcing people to use microphones is not going to make people use them more. I have a mic and I don’t use it because I usually don’t have anything beneficial to contribute by switching it on. I often get people talking in other languages or just blasting music through the mic as well. You are better off finding a group of friends to play with who use their mic than trying to force people to use a mic.
As for other teams being easily defeated by you, there are other reasons why that might be the case for example you and your team might just be far superior players skill wise, you have a stronger understanding of tactics, you could also just be lucky to an extent, etc. You have a lot of variables here that you seem to be ignoring.