This might be the dumbest shill iv’e ever heard, did Halo 3 need Micro transactions to fund it’s DLC? NO, because the game was complete when it RELEASED, so people had no problem paying for the DLC. Do people realize 343i is backed by Microsoft? people really think they need to be essentially crowd funded to make DLC? People are getting delusional at this point to defend Halo 5.
See, if they didn’t allow you to get those req packs any other way OUTSIDE buying them. I’d agree with you. Whether or not the end result is free DLC because of the money they rake in from req pack purchases is of no consequence. If someone has the cash to burn on it, why not? When a game puts in micro transactions that aren’t FORCED upon you. (IE: You want big gun? You can only get when you pay!) I am cool with that.
It’s a pretty vicious cycle of getting players who are very lazy, or wealthy, or have a few bucks, to either pay to get a chance at that sweet sweet visor color, or grind for it, thereby adding play time and those players continuing to play until they either get tired of said grind, or y’know. Just enjoy playing. Warframe is a pretty decent example, they make you grind forever to get certain frames and parts to make things. And then those parts take real world time to build. But when their PRIME access comes out. You have to PAY for specific limited time doodads to “look unique”. That’s just silly. But again. Hey. If they got the money.
The end result is; You don’t like the micro transactions? Cool. Gonna keep playing? Awesome.
The problem is, the REQ system itself is terrible, it prevents you from truly earning anything. It’s luck based, it doesn’t matter how bad you are as a player, you can still get lucky, open one gold pack and receive something good. The micro transactions part of it is just hurting Halo, and games in general. Halo has never had micro transactions, they simply do not belong, add in that Halo 5 is a full priced game with very little content compared to other Halo games. So yes, they don’t FORCE you to buy them, but the fact is they don’t belong, and neither does the REQ system. And no, i’m not “Gonna keep playing”, i’m getting 3k kills in arena and that’s it.
Well man, sorry to hear the req system is making you leave. But hey, every one has their own opinion on things. And yeah I get it that someone can get lucky and nab a Mantis within the first couple of gold packs, but to be completely honest, I myself, kinda like the random unlocks. The games aren’t always the same. (At least, until every on has every thing. Then oh boy.)
Oh no, the REQ system isn’t making me leave, that’s just a small issue i decided to share my thoughts on, there are MANY reasons why i’m stopping (at least consistently). Plus, the game is almost dead, it’s hard to even find lobbies and it’s becoming a waste of time.
Really? That’s weird, I’ve never had an issue finding a match.
MY problem is nine times out of time objective based games are played like a deathmatch. But that’s pretty much every game nowadays. So basically REQs were kind’ve the last straw, I got’cha.
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> The problem is, the REQ system itself is terrible, it prevents you from truly earning anything. It’s luck based, it doesn’t matter how bad you are as a player, you can still get lucky, open one gold pack and receive something good. The micro transactions part of it is just hurting Halo, and games in general. Halo has never had micro transactions, they simply do not belong, add in that Halo 5 is a full priced game with very little content compared to other Halo games. So yes, they don’t FORCE you to buy them, but the fact is they don’t belong, and neither does the REQ system. And no, i’m not “Gonna keep playing”, i’m getting 3k kills in arena and that’s it.
Where to begin…
The reqs shouldn’t be a reward for winning. They should be a reward for playing. You know what the reward for winning is? It’s winning.
And you’re right - Halo 3 didn’t have micro transactions. And that meant that the DLC had a price tag. And that meant that half the population bought the maps and the other half didn’t. And apart from a few short-lived, low-population DLC-only play lists, those of us who paid out almost never got the chance to actually play the maps we paid for.
This system may not be everything you dreamed Halo would be, but these mechanisms come about for a reason, usually the result of some previous negative experience. Does 343 make money off of reqs? Well, JC, of course they do. They’re not a charity. It’s a business. No one is forcing you to buy req packs and you know what you’re missing out on if you don’t buy them? Nothing. Nothing at all. You’ll still get your DLC no matter what. So yeah, people are not being too bright if they really think that reqs are “paying” for the DLC, but that doesn’t make reqs a bad thing. It doesn’t make a profit motive a bad thing. It just means people are dumb.
Of course they’re not a charity, that’s why they sell the game at full price. I already stated i know that no one is forcing me to buy them. This post isn’t about me, it’s about the shills who are down right saying micro transactions are good.
Just putting this out there. I really don’t think customers who are defending or saying it’s good are being paid to do so. Shill doesn’t really correlate properly. I mean I get where you’re coming from. But when I hear shill, I immediately think of anti-vax campaigns and “super foods.”
Well what you think of when i say the word shill isn’t really relevant to the point of the post lol.
Generally, when games release DLC, it divides the player pool into those who have and those who don’t. Developers must then make new playlists accommodating those who don’t have the DLC. The haves and have nots start to play together less and less. As more DLC is released, the player pool is divided more and more, requiring more and more playlists to be made for those with no DLC. A game may start with 1 million players but after two DLC map packs, may have groups of 500,000 with both DLCs, 300,000 with one DLC and 200,000 without. The player pool continues to divide, players will stop playing eventually because of limited options. Even those with all DLC will have to contend with less and less players.
I think but am not certain that this is one reason why 343 is releasing maps in updates for free as opposed to paid DLC. To fund these projects, they’ve chosen to use microtransactions. DLCs present players with the option of buying it and enjoying continued gameplay or not buying it and eventually experiencing less gameplay options. Microtransactions rely on the free expenditure or players’ money. Some will say this makes Warzone unbalanced and I can see their point. While this can be argued, it remains that Arena is unaffected by non ascetics Reqs.
So, the options are bring back standard DLCs and pay full price for them or not, resulting in a divided pool of players but combating the notion of microtransactions. Or allow people to buy content with microtransactions, funding future maps for all to enjoy. Not all individuals need to partake in microtransactions to reap the benefit of future maps.
I’m not advocating either way and perhaps I’m wrong about 343’s rational behind their approach.
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> Well what you think of when i say the word shill isn’t really relevant to the point of the post lol.
you keep using that word. i don’t think it means what you think it means.
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> > Well what you think of when i say the word shill isn’t really relevant to the point of the post lol.
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> you keep using that word. i don’t think it means what you think it means.
As far as getting my point across, it’s not really that far off, but good job on avoiding my points.
I don’t think anyone
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> Of course they’re not a charity, that’s why they sell the game at full price. I already stated i know that no one is forcing me to buy them. This post isn’t about me, it’s about the shills who are down right saying micro transactions are good.
I don’t think anyone believes that micro transactions are good, per se. They’re just considerably better than the alternative: paid map packs that divide the community.
I also feel you ignoring the fact that a lot of the REQ money is going towards the HCS prize pool.
You’re acting as if 343i is stuffing micro transactions down our throats, but there not. People have the option to buy or use req points. Let those who are willing to pay do so. I rather the DLC be free than pay for content that should have already been in the game.
Plot Twist!
Halo 3 released almost 10 years ago. Content changes overtime and currently Microtransactions are getting companies more money after launch than payed DLC ever did. So naturally this company, 343 Industries, wanted in. They are now getting many money from a system which no one needs to use and we are getting monthly updates for free.
Betcha didn’t see that one coming!
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> Plot Twist!
> Halo 3 released almost 10 years ago. Content changes overtime and currently Microtransactions are getting companies more money after launch than payed DLC ever did. So naturally this company, 343 Industries, wanted in. They are now getting many money from a system which no one needs to use and we are getting monthly updates for free.
> Betcha didn’t see that one coming!
Paid DLC also splits the community into the haves and have nots, I can tell you exactly how many times I’ve seen the dlc maps in Halo 4 outside of a dedicated playlist. Never. It’s never happened.