Micro-Tranactions are the death of Halo Casuals

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Ever stop playing Halo for a bit to think to yourself, “Why isn’t there any more game types in Halo 5?” Let me assure you, you’re not the only one who’s done this.

Why is it, the only Halo in the franchise have less game types? Micro-transaction.
You wanna know why? Because they are promoting Warzone so much, they made this game have less game types so casuals will play Warzone and want to pay their green paper money for digital currency and make 343 profit even more. Of course they used this for a tournament, but that’s still no excuse to let the casuals suffer from playing the SAME game modes on the SAME MAPS, and perhaps against better players, farmers, or same teams. It gets so repetitive to a point it’s not even worth complaining about.

It makes me question why did they even do this? What was their goals for not copying and pasting Bungies work that was perfect for them? Above all, they really, really had to make sure they get that number 12 emblem in this game before;
INFECTION,
MULTI-TEAM,
REGICIDE,
DOMINION,
RACE,
RICHOCET,
ASSAULT,
INVASION,
EXTRACTION, and STOCKPILE.

Honestly they’re greedy. I can’t believe they went this low or maybe it was Microsoft forcing them to milk some cash for them, who knows, but this is dumb. Why do they need to make this extra buck? What’s their plan for Halo 6s multiplayer? Just armor customization and full blow micro-transaction arena/warzone? "
To play a ranked game of slater, you must roll a dice with your req points and get that legendary ranked gold slayer match req card to use it."

Thats going over the top, but it’s so difficult with this company and not understanding their direction since they are getting Forgers to make maps for the game instead of THEM THE DEVELOPERS WHO DEVELOPED THE GAME. Honestly I like that they did that, since it gives the community the sense to help this game.

But why on gods green earth did they think it’s acceptable to import a half finished game with SO MANY FLAWS? To get that extra cash money. I hope this doesn’t happen in Halo 6. It’s not difficult when you make so much money off of three games you have developed over the course of 6 years now guys. We’re not looking for you guys to find an excuse to fix what you didn’t put in, we want logic from your mistakes. It’s a shame you make boneheaded mistakes and completely deteriorate the total aspect of the game, its not hard to think how messed up the game has been and not have the common courtesy to tell the fan-base what your reasons are for selling a half finished game in the first place!

And don’t tell me this subject has been talked about before and it’s not dead, it’s not. I love this game, warzone isn’t bad I like it a lot, but this game is an utter disappointment.
We can’t remain quiet on this and we need to let 343 know because if we remain quiet, 343 won’t care. We have to let our voices be known, we have to make a big deal about it because it’s how this business works now a days.

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Wholeheartedly agree.

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Not another one of these threads… smh… why didn’t they do what bungie did…maybe because Halo is their game now and they will do with it as they see fit. Why is there limited content… because H5 is on an entirely brand new engine and takes time to make all the game types and maybe they only want Halo to be competitive. Maybe they don’t want casual play. It is their game after all. Also the req packs are up to the player to buy or just use req points. The req system is way better than the map pack system because now ALL players get future updates and maps regardless whether they bought req packs or not.

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> Not another one of these threads… smh… why didn’t they do what bungie did…maybe because Halo is their game now and they will do with it as they see fit. Why is there limited content… because H5 is on an entirely brand new engine and takes time to make all the game types and maybe they only want Halo to be competitive. Maybe they don’t want casual play. It is their game after all. Also the req packs are up to the player to buy or just use req points. The req system is way better than the map pack system because now ALL players get future updates and maps regardless whether they bought req packs or not.

Let me stop you right there, it’s not THEIR game it’s MICROSOFTS game. More importantly, it’s the consumers game because we decide if we like it or not. It is a video game which means it’s an entertainment to me, and if I’m not entertained I can turn it off if I please, or better yet talk about what needs to be fixed or what doesn’t, and if it doesn’t, I don’t need to purchase it again.

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Having a “new engine” is not an excuse.

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> > Not another one of these threads… smh… why didn’t they do what bungie did…maybe because Halo is their game now and they will do with it as they see fit. Why is there limited content… because H5 is on an entirely brand new engine and takes time to make all the game types and maybe they only want Halo to be competitive. Maybe they don’t want casual play. It is their game after all. Also the req packs are up to the player to buy or just use req points. The req system is way better than the map pack system because now ALL players get future updates and maps regardless whether they bought req packs or not.
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> Let me stop you right there, it’s not THEIR game it’s MICROSOFTS game. More importantly, it’s the consumers game because we decide if we like it or not. It is a video game which means it’s an entertainment to me, and if I’m not entertained I can turn it off if I please, or better yet talk about what needs to be fixed or what doesn’t, and if it doesn’t, I don’t need to purchase it again.

Like it or not it is THEIR game. They can make it as they see fit. Also as big as Microsoft is Halo probably isn’t that big of a concern to them. Yes you as a consumer can decide to buy it or not or play it or not but at the end of the day it’s still their game.

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When I want casual play I either play warzone, btb or as tonight I am playing action sack in mcc

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> > > Not another one of these threads… smh… why didn’t they do what bungie did…maybe because Halo is their game now and they will do with it as they see fit. Why is there limited content… because H5 is on an entirely brand new engine and takes time to make all the game types and maybe they only want Halo to be competitive. Maybe they don’t want casual play. It is their game after all. Also the req packs are up to the player to buy or just use req points. The req system is way better than the map pack system because now ALL players get future updates and maps regardless whether they bought req packs or not.
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> > Let me stop you right there, it’s not THEIR game it’s MICROSOFTS game. More importantly, it’s the consumers game because we decide if we like it or not. It is a video game which means it’s an entertainment to me, and if I’m not entertained I can turn it off if I please, or better yet talk about what needs to be fixed or what doesn’t, and if it doesn’t, I don’t need to purchase it again.
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> Like it or not it is THEIR game. They can make it as they see fit. Also as big as Microsoft is Halo probably isn’t that big of a concern to them. Yes you as a consumer can decide to buy it or not or play it or not but at the end of the day it’s still their game.

Indeed they do what they do with the game, but it’s really not that kind of game where they just slap useless crap on it and saying “Here’s your beefy burger with fries, enjoy!”
No. It’s not a game like that.

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> > Not another one of these threads… smh… why didn’t they do what bungie did…maybe because Halo is their game now and they will do with it as they see fit. Why is there limited content… because H5 is on an entirely brand new engine and takes time to make all the game types and maybe they only want Halo to be competitive. Maybe they don’t want casual play. It is their game after all. Also the req packs are up to the player to buy or just use req points. The req system is way better than the map pack system because now ALL players get future updates and maps regardless whether they bought req packs or not.
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> Let me stop you right there, it’s not THEIR game it’s MICROSOFTS game. More importantly, it’s the consumers game because we decide if we like it or not. It is a video game which means it’s an entertainment to me, and if I’m not entertained I can turn it off if I please, or better yet talk about what needs to be fixed or what doesn’t, and if it doesn’t, I don’t need to purchase it again.

Exactly, it’s Microsoft’s game. They make the deadlines. 343i adheres to them or they get people who will. In this case, Halo 5 had to be released prior to holiday season. It’s not your game, because you only have a license to play it, and not obligated to buy/play in any way.

If 343i wanted to push Micro transactions so much, then they would have made the game itself pay to win. Yoink! Just lock the armor behind paywalls to be used in Arena. Or just never focus on Arena and focus solely on Warzone. More Warzone = More REQs = More money.

Half of those gametypes you’re asking for either existed for a short time or weren’t available at launch. Dominion, Regicide and Ricochet weren’t even Bungie’s, so how are you asking to copy and paste that from Bungie?

Not even Bungie can copy Bungie’s work successfully.

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> > > Not another one of these threads… smh… why didn’t they do what bungie did…maybe because Halo is their game now and they will do with it as they see fit. Why is there limited content… because H5 is on an entirely brand new engine and takes time to make all the game types and maybe they only want Halo to be competitive. Maybe they don’t want casual play. It is their game after all. Also the req packs are up to the player to buy or just use req points. The req system is way better than the map pack system because now ALL players get future updates and maps regardless whether they bought req packs or not.
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> > Let me stop you right there, it’s not THEIR game it’s MICROSOFTS game. More importantly, it’s the consumers game because we decide if we like it or not. It is a video game which means it’s an entertainment to me, and if I’m not entertained I can turn it off if I please, or better yet talk about what needs to be fixed or what doesn’t, and if it doesn’t, I don’t need to purchase it again.
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> Exactly, it’s Microsoft’s game. They make the deadlines. 343i adheres to them or they get people who will. In this case, Halo 5 had to be released prior to holiday season. It’s not your game, because you only have a license to play it, and not obligated to buy/play in any way.
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> If 343i wanted to push Micro transactions so much, then they would have made the game itself pay to win. Yoink! Just lock the armor behind paywalls to be used in Arena. Or just never focus on Arena and focus solely on Warzone. More Warzone = More REQs = More money.
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> Half of those gametypes you’re asking for either existed for a short time or weren’t available at launch. Dominion, Regicide and Ricochet weren’t even Bungie’s, so how are you asking to copy and paste that from Bungie?
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> Not even Bungie can copy Bungie’s work successfully.

It’s still our game because we can choose if we like it or not. Consumers also have BIG say in what products they deem are worthy you know.

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Never wasted any money on REQs. Currently SR 142 with 430,000+ REQ points. I’ll be over a million before the next monthly update.

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> Never wasted any money on REQs. Currently SR 142 with 430,000+ REQ points. I’ll be over a million before the next monthly update.

This exactly. Just because you can buy req packs with money doesn’t mean you have to.

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> > > > Not another one of these threads… smh… why didn’t they do what bungie did…maybe because Halo is their game now and they will do with it as they see fit. Why is there limited content… because H5 is on an entirely brand new engine and takes time to make all the game types and maybe they only want Halo to be competitive. Maybe they don’t want casual play. It is their game after all. Also the req packs are up to the player to buy or just use req points. The req system is way better than the map pack system because now ALL players get future updates and maps regardless whether they bought req packs or not.
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> > > Let me stop you right there, it’s not THEIR game it’s MICROSOFTS game. More importantly, it’s the consumers game because we decide if we like it or not. It is a video game which means it’s an entertainment to me, and if I’m not entertained I can turn it off if I please, or better yet talk about what needs to be fixed or what doesn’t, and if it doesn’t, I don’t need to purchase it again.
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> > Exactly, it’s Microsoft’s game. They make the deadlines. 343i adheres to them or they get people who will. In this case, Halo 5 had to be released prior to holiday season. It’s not your game, because you only have a license to play it, and not obligated to buy/play in any way.
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> > If 343i wanted to push Micro transactions so much, then they would have made the game itself pay to win. Yoink! Just lock the armor behind paywalls to be used in Arena. Or just never focus on Arena and focus solely on Warzone. More Warzone = More REQs = More money.
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> > Half of those gametypes you’re asking for either existed for a short time or weren’t available at launch. Dominion, Regicide and Ricochet weren’t even Bungie’s, so how are you asking to copy and paste that from Bungie?
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> It’s still our game because we can choose if we like it or not. Consumers also have BIG say in what products they deem are worthy you know.

Consumers have a say in whether a game is successful or not, but that still doesn’t grant them any ownership of the game.

That’s why people vote with their wallets. A game that isn’t like is a game that isn’t getting bought.

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The death of casuals is the super-competitive-sweaty-try hard mentality that has taken over ever facet of the game. There is no escape from it, especially ‘social’ playlists. Those have been some of the worst games as far as skill mis-match and competitive play. Seriously…it’s social. Take it down a notch.

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I am a causal halo gamer, I have played halo since ce, I have not spent a cent on anything in game and I never felt obligated to do so, I only play when i have time to, most weeks I play 3 or 4 warzone match’s about twice maybe 3 times a week I I am lucky and some weeks I don’t get time to play at all and I still have plenty of req points and heaps of earnt req card for load outs, power weapons and vehicles including some legendary stuff, I mostly just use the load out stuff and I can still keep up in game and get kills and win match’s with randoms and no mics

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and in the old halo games I mostly played slayer match’s, team doubles or custom games (mostly paintball) I never cared to much for the others but I still played them from time to time

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It all depends on where 343s direction with this game is going.

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> The death of casuals is the super-competitive-sweaty-try hard mentality that has taken over ever facet of the game. There is no escape from it, especially ‘social’ playlists. Those have been some of the worst games as far as skill mis-match and competitive play. Seriously…it’s social. Take it down a notch.

People try hard in social because stats like w/l and k/d are tracked.

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Completely agree.

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I fail to see microTs effecting the game. It’s stupid to even think 343 would purposely add as little content to the game just to “make” people buy reqs off warzone. There’s just not a single good arguement that I’ve heard yet, and that’s why it is a dead arguement to me. You can’t tell me a company would add so little and seriously hope it makes money. You need variety to pull people in and that’s what makes the money. H5 is the least sold halo “supposedly”, and if that’s true then there’s a flaw in your theory. I think they’re just struggling to make a great game, I won’t accept greed as their problem. Was it an issue with hCEA? H4? Mcc? No, they just can’t make a game work. They’d make much more if the did things right.

H5s issues isn’t the reqs, it’s the lack of maps, game types, something permanent besides warzone for social players, customs not always working, bad campaign, campaign full of false ads, progression system is trash, no medals, ect ect. That’s h5s issue, not -Yoinking!- reqs. Again, they just need to get a game to work, they can push micriTs all they want, I don’t care much for them, they don’t hurt the game in any way and they haven’t for almost half a year (if anything 343 actually has one of the better microTs setups compared to most games).