Melee needs a nerf. it's strength is being used as a crutch

Look man. I was under the impression you wanted to have a friendly conversation. I won’t engage any further if you’re just going to be a -Yoink-.

Pro’s have their opinions and I have mine. It’s not that big a deal.

The problem is melee attacks act like the energy sword. If you’re locked on then you lung too far and too fast. On the flip side, not being locked on results in an ineffective attack that will only hit if you’re currently being punched from the front.

Now consider the above under the context of being in a server that applies damage once every 3 seconds. The bottom line is way more melee misses than any previous game and jerky rubberbanding melee combat that is unpredictable and unsatisfying.

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its not like players move forward at a faster speed then you can move backwards

were aware that server lag is a big factor but its not the only factor in for fixing.

Oh I experience these lunges, enemies lunge at me like they have the sword. Meanwhile I can stand near an enemy and wiff a melee, likely due to no collision. Feels like I can walk through my enemies as well when we are dancing around trying to melee each other.

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Agreed. Going through the enemy is so common and so incredibly frustrating. Collision was never a problem in 20 years, and the excuses they made for removing it were totally dreamed up.

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The melee in this game is way to strong im honestly not wanting to play it because of how easy it is to kill with a melee i die at half shields to a melee like what. melee should only kill if i have no shields except for guns that have a blade on it like the mauler or skewer. if they fix the damage it would play so much better.

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It certainly needs fixing. I swear melee at moment feels broken and at times feels like sword lunges without the sword.

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Melee is no faster than it’s ever been, the biggest issue right now is the netcode and collision problems. The only thing that has changed is the new lunge mechanic, which i think needs to be removed once other problems are fixed with hit registry and netcode issues.

I play offline most of the time, with bots, and not of one them are lunged at me from two meters away.

Not once.

I think all of these issues are being caused by netcode and desync. If not that, something must be up server side.

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please no…NO MORE DELAYS.
please stop the madness.
Why would anyone ever want a delay in a shooting game.
please stop the madness.
When we press a button it needs to respond.
There must be another way to balance or alter a game than to make it unresponsive.
it sucks.
it confuses new people.
it sucks.
it breaks consistency
it sucks.
delays suck

Umm but “A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad,” :thinking:

They rushed the game and the state of the game is pretty bad and no amount of patches will fix the default launch on disc because it’s bare bones and 343i choose to release it this way.

Sure they may patch stuff eventually but the damage to their reputation has now already been done and there’s no way to reverse the damage they have done. All they can do for now is patch the issue and hope someday Infinite survives their 10 year plan.

If " Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It!" and hear we are again after what happened with Halo 5’s launch. :thinking:

I wouldn’t know i never bought 5 never wanted to. 4 left a dirty taste in my mouth.

the reason you need a delay between melee swings is so we don’t have ridiculous situations like the melee button combo exploit in the flights where you could melee 20 times a second and next to insta kill players.

as for why i think the melee delay currently isn’t long enough is after a melee exchange you aren’t given enough time to ready you gun and land a shot or 2 before they can hit you a second time resulting in a lot of double melee kills.

its only one of the aspects that could be nerfed to improve the melee balance.
also i hypothetically only see it being slightly longer to open that 1/2 shots window back up.

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right, lol. recently people on this forum can’t even take being shot at anymore.

No, don’t agree at all. That means the rest of the game is broken/dated.
there are simply too many delays.
We can’t even switch weapons properly on pc.
No other game gives this issue because others aren’t craming so many delays everywhere.
delay to switch weapons is so bad that you end of dropping one of your weapons on a regular basis.
Delay after jumping to throw a grenade etc
just look at how dumb people want the game.
you want to be so close that you can melee but then have to raise your gun to finish the kill…it is purposely making the game janky/clunky and slower.
It ruins this franchise man.
This is the same group of players that didnt’ want sprint forever.
it is almost 2022 man you guys gotta give some
how much will you watch this franchise burn to the ground before you guys cave some?
the game is too restrictive and using that as a front for “skill.”
it isnt’ skill…it is irritating.
no more delays.
if anything get rid of them.
It blows my mind that people want delays in a shooting game.

Ill die on this hill with ya.

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No melee is fine ,what needs fixed is desync and the netcode issues.

I agree and i think the same could be said for grenades.