MCC is a campfest, roll on halo 5!

So, the MCC got its big patch today! Finally! And ot works…(at least for me) however, my fond memories of my good old halo were shattered. What a nightmare.

Almost every game I played was BR slayer, which turned in to people just spamming bullets from one side of the map to another, or camping a particular corner or base with a close quarters weapon and that’s about it. I recall this happening before but not as bad as I witnessed today…or at least nostalgia would have me believe so.

people continually quit the games, leaving uneven teams, there were betrayals for power weapons and the list goes on. I played for a good few hours and hot plenty of games so I didn’t just have a bad one or two.

I really enjoyed the halo 5 beta, and can now see the reasoning behind a lot of their design choices. Good luck 343, keep it up.

I am honestly sorry you experience this. Flush the campers out with grenades! In all seriousness I hope things get better for you and everybody else on TMCC. Hope to see you on Halo 5: Guardians multiplayer.

“Always here to help”- BeastModeBermy

Thanks dude, but I’m afraid it isn’t always that simple, camping isn’t always crouching round a corner to go off radar. With BR slayer you,can be spawn killed ridiculously, or just forced to rush a tower or wait for then to leave. Maybe, I just don’t like halos gameplay anymore.

One thing I did notice about the beta was the lack of campers. I love it.

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> One thing I did notice about the beta was the lack of campers. I love it.

agreed. In halo 5 people never stopped moving. Sure, someone would try and sit in a corner with a DMR, bit with all your mobility options you could out gun them quite easily. Much more tactical than previous halos in my opinion. And I love them to death (before anyone says I’m a noob or something…)

Lol. You think H5 will be different.

Stop playing BTB

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> Lol. You think H5 will be different.

I do. The new mobility options will allow you to out skill campers. And it will also encourage people to move around the map.

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I haven’t been able to get a game on BTB…?

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Campers in Halo already get 2 kills on average per game because it’s an incredibly stupid and inefficient way to get kills. H5 is still setup-oriented with map control and BR team-shooting beating pretty much everything so no, it won’t be any different.

You seem to be under the delusion that H5 won’t have quitters, uneven teams, teammates fighting over weapons, shotty campers, etc. You are wrong.

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Wow. Then your team just sucked at flushing them out…

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> Lol. You think H5 will be different.

Well after playing halo 5, yes. I do think so.

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The low TTK will make camping even easier, since campers need to land less shots on an enemy while human reaction time stayed the same.

Also, campers can stay in constant ADS, making full use of the spread buffs, while normal players first need to spot enemies, take aim and try to make sure they actually stay zoomed.

I found it fairly simple to camp in halo 5 compared to the others, mainly due to sprint and thrusters, but that’s just me.

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Nice double tap. high five

But yeah, H5 is probably more camper friendly than previous Halos. Mobility options don’t mean jack. ADS shooters general are the ones that favor camping and yet those are the ones that have traditionally had sprint, ledge-grab, etc. Sure descope helps things but the faster TTK makes it less useful, plus the high bullet magnetism.

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I thing you’re forgetting that ADS in halo 5 only SLIGHTLY decreases the spread, its still easy to shoot and get kills from the hip, I barely used smart scope.

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WOW! how constructive your post was! Thank you so much.

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where you got that last part from I have no idea? Why do people on these forums insist on trying yo put words in your mouth?

no -Yoink- there will be campers, leavers etc. That cant be helped. However I feel with the new mobility options there will be less camping and unfair gameplay, potentially meaning less quitters. And with the assault rifle buff I saw that people were using the battle rifle less. Yay for some variety finally!

Camping is not an issue in Halo and never will be especially if you play with a team. If you play with a team you won’t be betrayed for weapons, you won’t have to worry about your team quitting, and campers will be easily destroyed.

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> Camping is not an issue in Halo and never will be especially if you play with a team. If you play with a team you won’t be betrayed for weapons, you won’t have to worry about your team quitting, and campers will be easily destroyed.

its a huge issue, its a blurry line between camping and “map control” my friends gave up on MCC because of its all problems so now I dont have my own team. Does that mean I shouldn’t play unranked team slayer because ill get camped to -Yoink-? And it isn’t just my team they quit either. The enemy team leaving is also a problem.

Camping is definitely an issue in all games. Its still camping if you are sitting in a tower with shotgun and sniper not moving all game.

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The line between map control and camping is very fine. The maps in the classic Halos have very few choke points that can’t be taken over with teamwork especially with the amount of grenades you can carry in the classic Halos. There are very few slayer games that end because time runs out. If you have no one to play with then you are going to get smashed in the classic Halos especially when the other team is working together.

Halo gas always had ita very share of camper But it never been as bad as game like cod.