Has anyone even thought of this? I cant be the only one, but Jun never died. What if he makes an appearence in Halo 4? and if not Halo 4 maybe one of the other 2 games in the Reclaimer Trilogy?
I guess I wouldn’t mind too much, but he was definitely a bland and downright annoying character.
Unlike the annoying Sergeant Johnson or Jorge is alive fans, having Jun appear as a Cameo in future Halo games is viable.
We don’t know if he survived Reach or died.
> Unlike the annoying Sergeant Johnson or Jorge is alive fans, having Jun appear as a Cameo in future Halo games is viable.
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> We don’t know if he survived Reach or died.
Spartans never die, they’re just missing in action…
Frankie already confirmed no Jun in halo 4.
> > Unlike the annoying Sergeant Johnson or Jorge is alive fans, having Jun appear as a Cameo in future Halo games is viable.
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> > We don’t know if he survived Reach or died.
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> Spartans never die, they’re just missing in action…
Technically, Johnson is a Spartan I and we all know what happens to him in Halo 3…lol
Jorge? He gets the honor of detonating a make slip space bomb and being close proximity of said bomb.
Nonetheless, i always loved that motto for the Spartans.
> Unlike the annoying Sergeant Johnson or Jorge is alive fans, having Jun appear as a Cameo in future Halo games is viable.
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> We don’t know if he survived Reach or died.
Whereas Johnson is surely dead, and Jorge is lost completely within a void of slipspace with suspected limited oxygen (dead), Jun is a viable way to bring back another Spartan. A lot of people think he died at Castle Base, when it was attacked by the Covenant after he escorted Halsey there. However, it is possible that he also escaped Castle Base after it was blown up by Halsey. So far, from what I can tell, Jun is MIA, along with presumed-dead Halsey, and a few other Spartans.
read my other post
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We know. We just reverted to the age-old conversation about how Jun isn’t officially dead. It’s just more interesting than the “In Halo 4…” conversations when 343i already has everything for Halo 4 mapped out already. In full honesty, some people have amazing ideas, whereas others need to realize that Halo 4 is getting prepped for the final cut, which I assume will happen some time in late mid-August or early-September. Basically, the ideas the community is dishing out, will only be considered for Halo 5 (I hope it has a less bland title than “Halo 5”. That just sounds…well…bland)
There could be a spin off game in the future, that tells Jun Untold story. But for now we will continue the story of Master Chief and Cortana
> Jorge is lost completely within a void of slipspace with suspected limited oxygen (dead)
Plus, we truly don’t know how the slip drive will react the way it was set up, it could of transported him some where unknown, it could of scattered the matter in his body through out slip space, or it could of just simply erased him. His end is full of unknowns, and very few of which have happen endings.
> Jun is a viable way to bring back another Spartan. A lot of people think he died at Castle Base, when it was attacked by the Covenant after he escorted Halsey there. However, it is possible that he also escaped Castle Base after it was blown up by Halsey. So far, from what I can tell, Jun is MIA, along with presumed-dead Halsey, and a few other Spartans.
Yeah Jun on the other hand, well is unknown as well, mostly believed is MIA, and/or Dead. the comic depecting his end, I have no idea how it ends, nor if it’s canon, but if it is canon, and the end is as I’ve heard, Halsey put him in a cryo tube because he was injured so bad he couldn’t leave reach with out dying, then I bet he’s floating some where close by. Which if people remember the lore, Linda was the same way, in a way, she was dead, put in a cryo tube for a later time, and then she was warmed up, fixed up, and then brought back to life by Halsey, so we know there is a short period of time that they can bring the dead back.
> > Jorge is lost completely within a void of slipspace with suspected limited oxygen (dead)
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> Plus, we truly don’t know how the slip drive will react the way it was set up, it could of transported him some where unknown, it could of scattered the matter in his body through out slip space, or it could of just simply erased him. His end is full of unknowns, and very few of which have happen endings.
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> > Jun is a viable way to bring back another Spartan. A lot of people think he died at Castle Base, when it was attacked by the Covenant after he escorted Halsey there. However, it is possible that he also escaped Castle Base after it was blown up by Halsey. So far, from what I can tell, Jun is MIA, along with presumed-dead Halsey, and a few other Spartans.
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> Yeah Jun on the other hand, well is unknown as well, mostly believed is MIA, and/or Dead. the comic depecting his end, I have no idea how it ends, nor if it’s canon, but if it is canon, and the end is as I’ve heard, Halsey put him in a cryo tube because he was injured so bad he couldn’t leave reach with out dying, then I bet he’s floating some where close by. Which if people remember the lore, Linda was the same way, in a way, she was dead, put in a cryo tube for a later time, and then she was warmed up, fixed up, and then brought back to life by Halsey, so we know there is a short period of time that they can bring the dead back.
I sincerely thank you for understanding my optimistic/reasonable depiction of Jorge’s status. They cannot confirm his death, given that he is, in comparison to the Spirit Of Fire; “Lost With All Hands”. Nobody knows where he is.
I don’t know which comic you speak of, but it doesn’t sound like canon. More like fan-fiction. Jun’s status is still depicted as MIA - “CASTLE Base” on the various Wiki’s and other informational Halo websites. In regards to the “floating”…you know Reach wasn’t destroyed, right? Glassing is a term used in Halo to describe “severe burning of a surface”, basically it’s an over-assumption of the effect of focused particle beams on a planetary surface. They assume that dirt will be atomically separated to become sand, and then the sand will be burned by the heat. However, we have seen that Reach will be healthy again in 2589, as depicted by Bungie’s “Going-Away” present at the end of Halo: Reach. I’m also with those who believe they see a Carrier in the distance on the left side of the screen in that after-shot.
i thought everyone knew that jun died, if not read the fall of reach.(the new version with three spartans on the cover) on one of the pages it says’s that a spartan escort died protecting halsey.
Speaking of the Spirit Of Fire, though, I’d love to see it return at some point within the timeline of the Reclaimer Trilogy. We all know by now that it isn’t lost. And given that its last known location was given just prior to going into slip-space, and that human slip-space travel has a limited distance, they could find this needle in the haystack.
However, I don’t mean to go completely off-topic. So please, when/if responding to that, keep it brief and include a post relevant to the OT.
> i thought everyone knew that jun died, if not read the fall of reach.(the new version with three spartans on the cover) on one of the pages it says’s that a spartan escort died protecting halsey.
It is a re-print. And whereas I can’t find a page number and quote, I do believe you.
However, given that it is a re-print, the re-print issue can only include fixed-error canon (2542, anyone?). Any new details can only be considered fan-fiction, given that many other details (especially surrounding the death of Halsey, Jun, and the other Spartans in CASTLE Base) provided in other film shorts, comics, and books contradict re-print details.
Basically, the details that came before the re-print hereby are given orders to say “Neener neener” at the new re-print details. Because they came first.
> I don’t know which comic you speak of, but it doesn’t sound like canon. More like fan-fiction. Jun’s status is still depicted as MIA - “CASTLE Base” on the various Wiki’s and other informational Halo websites. In regards to the “floating”…you know Reach wasn’t destroyed, right? Glassing is a term used in Halo to describe “severe burning of a surface”, basically it’s an over-assumption of the effect of focused particle beams on a planetary surface. They assume that dirt will be atomically separated to become sand, and then the sand will be burned by the heat. However, we have seen that Reach will be healthy again in 2589, as depicted by Bungie’s “Going-Away” present at the end of Halo: Reach. I’m also with those who believe they see a Carrier in the distance on the left side of the screen in that after-shot.
From what I hear, Jun was put in a cryo pod, and left floating in space, I know glassing means severe burning of the surface, I have read all of the novels. Which also gives more reason why there’s still a chance that he can be in a future Halo title.
> > I don’t know which comic you speak of, but it doesn’t sound like canon. More like fan-fiction. Jun’s status is still depicted as MIA - “CASTLE Base” on the various Wiki’s and other informational Halo websites. In regards to the “floating”…you know Reach wasn’t destroyed, right? Glassing is a term used in Halo to describe “severe burning of a surface”, basically it’s an over-assumption of the effect of focused particle beams on a planetary surface. They assume that dirt will be atomically separated to become sand, and then the sand will be burned by the heat. However, we have seen that Reach will be healthy again in 2589, as depicted by Bungie’s “Going-Away” present at the end of Halo: Reach. I’m also with those who believe they see a Carrier in the distance on the left side of the screen in that after-shot.
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> From what I hear, Jun was put in a cryo pod, and left floating in space, I know glassing means severe burning of the surface, I have read all of the novels. Which also gives more reason why there’s still a chance that he can be in a future Halo title.
If I offended you regarding the glassing segment, I didn’t mean to. I couldn’t understand quite what you meant.
In regards to the cryo pod, it seems viable, but we don’t know if even Halsey escaped Reach prior to the glassing, and the other Spartans’ status would thus remain shady as well. While I love the concept, from what is directly accepted by most Halo fans is that the last that was heard of the many Spartans and Halsey, is that they were proceeding with Operation: WHITEGLOVE, destroying CASTLE Base, and somehow planning to escape it. Within the topic surrounding this, it is also accepted that they retreated into the “unstable and dangerous titanium mines below”. This would hint at a possible accidental suicide escape, but doesn’t provide enough reason to suggest that they all died.
I made sure to keep what I said under “generally accepted”, mainly because I love hearing everyone’s take on things. It broadens the subject, and allows for more scenarios to explain events. I also said it, however, to avoid future confrontation with anyone attempting to contradict the theories in what I said, which seems to happen a lot in the Halo 4 forum.
Keep in mind: there is no direct, factual take on any one event, as it is always possible it was viewed from more angles than you could see yourself. Likewise, two angles do not support a single theory, but merely back it up in regards to the factual possibilities surrounding it.
Please, continue. I am thoroughly enjoying this conversation, and I beg people to please partake in it. This is one of those rare moments in these forums where people can speak to each other without being directly critical of their ideas.
Linda would be much more better… just saying…
> Linda would be much more better… just saying…
Is it too much to ask for both? And actually, unless you follow the belief that Linda was jettisoned prior to the Autumn crash-landing on Installation 04, Linda is gone completely.
I myself follow that, as it would be a logical step in the case that she could survive.
> > > Unlike the annoying Sergeant Johnson or Jorge is alive fans, having Jun appear as a Cameo in future Halo games is viable.
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> > Spartans never die, they’re just missing in action…
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> Technically, Johnson is a Spartan I and we all know what happens to him in Halo 3…lol
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> Jorge? He gets the honor of detonating a make slip space bomb and being close proximity of said bomb.
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> Nonetheless, i always loved that motto for the Spartans.
Well johnson wasn’t a real spartan… he was part of the ORION project… which inspired halsey’s Spartan project… she merely called spartan IIs that to honor the previous project.
and Jorge… thats a Slip Space DRIVE… it transported half of the covie ship and him to a random location… destroying the ship… Not necessarily him… though i find it highly unlikely for him to have survived…
I also have always loved that motto.