A huge problem with ranked right now is that it’ll match players up with full teams when they’re searching alone or in a smaller group sometimes. The higher rank you get to, the more this happens because people care so much about winning that they don’t want to risk searching matchmaking alone. I’ve basically been begging for party restrictions forever now because that would make it a guaranteed thing that parties match like sized parties EVERYTIME. Well nothing has ever been done to try to help this out, until the “search preference” feature got implemented. Here are the features:
Balanced: Search for a match based on your fireteam’s skill and network connection quality.
Focused: Narrow search to find the best match based on your fireteam’s skill and connection. Search times may be longer than normal.
Expanded: Widen search parameters to find the first available match with reasonable skill matching and network connection quality.
Okay so those are the search preference filters we can now choose from to try to customize our matchmaking experience to something we’d prefer. Well after reading all of these, since my goal is to match a team if I’m searching 4s, or to match other people searching alone when I’m searching alone, I want to choose the option “Focused” because it would help find me the “best match.” Welp, I still match teams of four when going in alone and people searching alone when I search with a team of four. I guess it just doesn’t happen as often but I haven’t noticed at all if that’s the case. Anyways how about a new filter option called “Strict.” Here’s what it could be like:
Strict: Find a match of close skilled players with equal sized fireteams. Search times may be long.
This option would obviously be strict because it would be there to FOR SURE 100% get a fair match. And that means more things have to line up like likesized teams and skill levels, so you might have to search for a few minutes to make sure you get that match. But it would be worth it and it would finally fix the void of getting unfair matches. People would just have to know that it might take awhile to get a match. But if they don’t like it, then they can just switch the filter to something else they’d rather play.
Anyways, I hope you guys agree with me in seeing how a new “Strict” feature would satisfy many people’s desire for fair matches. I hope everyone will help get this added into the game by showing how much you want it. If you agree, please say so below or by tweeting to 343i. Or any other way to make it happen. Just try to spread the idea around, thanks!
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> Strict: Find a match of close skilled players with equal sized fireteams. Search times may be long.
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> This option would obviously be strict because it would be there to FOR SURE 100% get a fair match. And that means more things have to line up like likesized teams and skill levels, so you might have to search for a few minutes to make sure you get that match. But it would be worth it and it would finally fix the void of getting unfair matches. People would just have to know that it might take awhile to get a match. But if they don’t like it, then they can just switch the filter to something else they’d rather play.
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> Anyways, I hope you guys agree with me in seeing how a new “Strict” feature would satisfy many people’s desire for fair matches. I hope everyone will help get this added into the game by showing how much you want it. If you agree, please say so below or by tweeting to 343i. Or any other way to make it happen. Just try to spread the idea around, thanks!
If you cant beat them- join them. Party up with people with mics and get a team together. Only 3 of my actual friends play halo, but there are plenty of people on live that are in your same boat. Remember: youre good enough, youre smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like you.
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> If you cant beat them- join them. Party up with people with mics and get a team together. Only 3 of my actual friends play halo, but there are plenty of people on live that are in your same boat. Remember: youre good enough, youre smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like you.
Ironically, I come from the party of people that search as a team of 4 when I play arena most of the time. What’s boring is matching people who aren’t a team of four and getting EASY wins for it. I would like to increase the difficulty of the matches by MAKING SURE that I match a team of four WHEN I SEARCH AS A TEAM OF FOUR. That’s why I want there to be a “Strict” option for searching preferences. I don’t mind waiting however long it takes to get a QUALITY match. KEYWORD IS QUALITYYYYYYYY OVER quantity!
QUALITY OVER QUANTITY
QUALITY OVER QUANTITY
Okay hope I got that across. The last like 20 games or so that I’ve played in arena searching 4s, has been SOOOO EASY because I kept matching not full parties! I want a FAIR option to choose when I play. I play to get better at the game, not to play a whole lot of bad quality games. This option would literally be an option, as in,YOU CHOOSE IF YOU WANT A GOOD QUALITY FAIR MATCH OR NOT. IF SO, TURN ON STRICT, IF NOT, TURN IT TO ANYTHING ELSE. Sorry for the capslock, just trying to add emphasis as to why I really want this feature. And to put it into one sentence: I want the “Strict” feature because I want to match a team of four EVERY TIME I search as a team of four, that way I get the BEST COMPETITIVE MATCH POSSIBLE!
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> A huge problem with ranked right now is that it’ll match players up with full teams when they’re searching alone or in a smaller group sometimes. The higher rank you get to, the more this happens because people care so much about winning that they don’t want to risk searching matchmaking alone. I’ve basically been begging for party restrictions forever now because that would make it a guaranteed thing that parties match like sized parties EVERYTIME. Well nothing has ever been done to try to help this out, until the “search preference” feature got implemented. Here are the features:
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> Balanced: Search for a match based on your fireteam’s skill and network connection quality.
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> Focused: Narrow search to find the best match based on your fireteam’s skill and connection. Search times may be longer than normal.
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> Expanded: Widen search parameters to find the first available match with reasonable skill matching and network connection quality.
>
> Okay so those are the search preference filters we can now choose from to try to customize our matchmaking experience to something we’d prefer. Well after reading all of these, since my goal is to match a team if I’m searching 4s, or to match other people searching alone when I’m searching alone, I want to choose the option “Focused” because it would help find me the “best match.” Welp, I still match teams of four when going in alone and people searching alone when I search with a team of four. I guess it just doesn’t happen as often but I haven’t noticed at all if that’s the case. Anyways how about a new filter option called “Strict.” Here’s what it could be like:
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> Strict: Find a match of close skilled players with equal sized fireteams. Search times may be long.
>
> This option would obviously be strict because it would be there to FOR SURE 100% get a fair match. And that means more things have to line up like likesized teams and skill levels, so you might have to search for a few minutes to make sure you get that match. But it would be worth it and it would finally fix the void of getting unfair matches. People would just have to know that it might take awhile to get a match. But if they don’t like it, then they can just switch the filter to something else they’d rather play.
>
> Anyways, I hope you guys agree with me in seeing how a new “Strict” feature would satisfy many people’s desire for fair matches. I hope everyone will help get this added into the game by showing how much you want it. If you agree, please say so below or by tweeting to 343i. Or any other way to make it happen. Just try to spread the idea around, thanks!
This is actually a major problem with this ranking system in a nutshell. On strict, it should only match up against people with the same fire team size. But even when not in strict, there should still be a filter like this:
Fireteam size 1:
Matchup with all singles, doubles, or with a team of 3
Fireteams size 2:
matchup with all singles, doubles, or a team of 4 if your other 2 teammates are together.
Fireteam size 3:
matchup with against party of 3 or 4
Fireteam size 4:
matchup with part of 3 or 4
This should be implemented in all ranked game types even when not in “strict”. This would also not affect search times as parties of 2 can possibly match up against anyone.
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> > Strict: Find a match of close skilled players with equal sized fireteams. Search times may be long.
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> > This option would obviously be strict because it would be there to FOR SURE 100% get a fair match. And that means more things have to line up like likesized teams and skill levels, so you might have to search for a few minutes to make sure you get that match. But it would be worth it and it would finally fix the void of getting unfair matches. People would just have to know that it might take awhile to get a match. But if they don’t like it, then they can just switch the filter to something else they’d rather play.
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> > Anyways, I hope you guys agree with me in seeing how a new “Strict” feature would satisfy many people’s desire for fair matches. I hope everyone will help get this added into the game by showing how much you want it. If you agree, please say so below or by tweeting to 343i. Or any other way to make it happen. Just try to spread the idea around, thanks!
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> Team matching is something H5 desperately needs.
This would work if the game had players to begin with. As of right now there’s not enough players to implement this unless you want to play the same team over and over again.
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> This would work if the game had players to begin with. As of right now there’s not enough players to implement this unless you want to play the same team over and over again.
This^^
The OP makes so much sense that the only logical reason not to implement this is that the population just could not support it. No one wants proof of a declining player base. But I also think this is what the present system is supposed to do, since only the first two options mention “fireteams”, and the third excludes the reference, but it doesn’t work. I’ve rarely heard from a solo player who doesn’t complain about matching teams and many have quit playing, which drives the population even lower. Furthermore this suggestion is coming from the other side of the solo/team dilemma that also wants fair matches. You’re facing a team that’s communicating, and strategizing, while your silent team mates fly around solo, get wrecked, and quit. It’s easily borne out watching some of the popular streamers, who are high Onyx, try to solo que in Arena. It’s an exercise in frustration.
absolutely with the party size yes…the skill though…no…i loathe the concept of skill based matchmaking in social playlists…and if your playing ranked then your gonna be facing similarly skilled players anyway…although to be fair i dont play alot of ranked and i have heard it doesnt work well…correct me if im wrong i guess
I just want a way to filter out unranked players if I’m ranked. I’m sick of the other team having an unranked onyx player that manages 30 kills because it’s basically easy mode being put up against mostly golds and silvers.
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> I just want a way to filter out unranked players if I’m ranked. I’m sick of the other team having an unranked onyx player that manages 30 kills because it’s basically easy mode being put up against mostly golds and silvers.
What you’re describing is a smurf( new account to deliberately play against easier opponents). You don’t lose your ranking when ranks reset, it’s just not visible until you play your placement matches. An onyx player will always start their first match in onyx level or somewhere around that level
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> > I just want a way to filter out unranked players if I’m ranked. I’m sick of the other team having an unranked onyx player that manages 30 kills because it’s basically easy mode being put up against mostly golds and silvers.
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> What you’re describing is a smurf( new account to deliberately play against easier opponents). You don’t lose your ranking when ranks reset, it’s just not visible until you play your placement matches. An onyx player will always start their first match in onyx level or somewhere around that level
i think ultimately what he is saying is that he just wants the ranks to work as intended
I’m still puzzled about the ranking system and how it pits Onyx versus Gold/Platinum players.
I come up against Onyx guys from time to time (more frequently than I’d like). I also come up against them a bit in FFA. The game never ranks me as Onyx and rarely as Diamond so the only thing I can think of is that its matching us by KDA.
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> I’m still puzzled about the ranking system and how it pits Onyx versus Gold/Platinum players.
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> I come up against Onyx guys from time to time (more frequently than I’d like). I also come up against them a bit in FFA. The game never ranks me as Onyx and rarely as Diamond so the only thing I can think of is that its matching us by KDA.
yeah probably accuracy time spent on objective, frequency of armor pickups, power weapons etc…but also how you perform against players of a certain rank
I honestly wish 343 would look at this thread and reply to it. Nothing’s worse than being left in the dark with an idea that might actually work to fix party restrictions by making it optional to the player.
