I’ve gone from really enjoying this game and feeling it was OK-ish balance wise (recording a fairly even trade for K/Ds) to barely being able to land a shot before I’m destroyed and am now absolutely hating the experience .
This has all happened since I levelled from Silver to Gold, which I figured, fine, I’ll simply move back down again and rejoin a level I felt was balanced for my skill level. I’ve just been told however, that isn’t the case and I’m permanently locked at Gold getting destroyed every time I move an inch and having to partake in a game of hide and seek (god I hate those matches) to try and land a kill.
From what I can gather, you can move up and down the six stages of each level, but when you change colour, you can’t go back down. Who thought that was a good idea? And furthermore, who thought matchmaking promotions should be based on whether your team wins in slayer instead of KDA? And why are there random diamond and platinum players mixed in with the gold? None of this makes sense to me.
They did it because it’s really disheartening to work up your way to the next rank only to go on a losing streak and go down a tier. Makes people baby their ranks and only play when they feel they are 110% on their game. This way, it gives people an incentive to play. Now then, supposedly, 343 will be introducing seasons into arena matchmaking so everyones ranks reset. I don’t know when they are introducing this though. Another reason it’s based on team wins instead of KDA is because it bred an attitude of just playing to kill, not playing the objective. The game didn’t foster teamwork, it just made players lookout for themselves, which is wrong.
I am platinum 1 and got matched five games in a roll against people who were playing together with rank gold +. Even with a diamond one. The matchmaking is so lame. I like to play by myself with random teams and my losses/wins are balanced enough to make me stick in platinum 1/2. But playing out of a group is a pain when matchmaking don’t do it’s job. Halo 4 had a way better matchmaking system.
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> I am platinum 1 and got matched five games in a roll against people who were playing together with rank gold +. Even with a diamond one. The matchmaking is so lame. I like to play by myself with random teams and my losses/wins are balanced enough to make me stick in platinum 1/2. But playing out of a group is a pain when matchmaking don’t do it’s job. Halo 4 had a way better matchmaking system.
It’s awful. I’m just getting massacred constantly now. My last game had Diamond 4 and 3 in - there’s no balance to that at all.
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> They did it because it’s really disheartening to work up your way to the next rank only to go on a losing streak and go down a tier. Makes people baby their ranks and only play when they feel they are 110% on their game. This way, it gives people an incentive to play.
Not as disheartening as it is to respawn and die within seconds, over and over again because you’re suddenly playing Platinum and Diamond (not gold!) for no apparent reason. This is an awful system IMO. Halo Reach had much better balance in matchmaking. This wasn’t bad until I hit a bit of a purple patch and it moved me up to a level I can’t compete at - I mean, really can’t compete - and I’m locked there forever more. I was 16 deaths to 3 kills last match, and the 3 kills were all lucky grenades.
The system has some serious issues, no doubt about that. But the arena goes in seasons. I don’t know when this season will be over, but it won’t be more than a few weeks, and then a new season will start. When it does you will go into arena and play your ten placement matches just like you did in the first few days, and then be ranked all over again. This time around think very carefully about just how hard you want to push your performance - knowing that what happened to you the first time can happen again very easily. There’s no crime in being ranked too low as the system will willingly move you up over time, but if once it puts you too high then you’re stuck in limbo until the season re-sets again. Best of luck.
Same here. One night I was on fire and had nothing but wins somehow. Now I hate the game. It isn’t fun at all. Instead it’s a frustrating collage of deaths that just makes me want to get rid of the game. My k/d ratio last match was 1 kill to 15 deaths. I want to drop a couple ranks. I’m not playing the game competitively and never will. I bought to have fun and it’s the inverse of that.
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> The system has some serious issues, no doubt about that. But the arena goes in seasons. I don’t know when this season will be over, but it won’t be more than a few weeks, and then a new season will start. When it does you will go into arena and play your ten placement matches just like you did in the first few days, and then be ranked all over again. This time around think very carefully about just how hard you want to push your performance - knowing that what happened to you the first time can happen again very easily. There’s no crime in being ranked too low as the system will willingly move you up over time, but if once it puts you too high then you’re stuck in limbo until the season re-sets again. Best of luck.
It’s sad that some people have to play like crap on purpose just to prevent the system from putting them into a situation where they’re forced to play like crap. Nobody should have to play in fear of the system deeming them too good and then placing them into a bracket they can’t compete in. I don’t know why 343 had such a -Yoink!- for the competitive scene this time around, but catering only to a minority of players and leaving no casual options just for fun (social playlists, casual gametypes), was a huge mistake.
I didn’t realize that once you ranked up it wouldn’t let you drop back down. I have already decided that when they do the rank reset I’m going to completely throw my first 10 matches so that I can enjoy the game. My platinum in Team slayer isn’t so bad and I get some really competitive matches which is fun. My diamond in swat and ffa have made those two playlists a nightmare. After I figured all this out I threw my matches in team arena and breakout so that they would remain fun.
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> > The system has some serious issues, no doubt about that. But the arena goes in seasons. I don’t know when this season will be over, but it won’t be more than a few weeks, and then a new season will start. When it does you will go into arena and play your ten placement matches just like you did in the first few days, and then be ranked all over again. This time around think very carefully about just how hard you want to push your performance - knowing that what happened to you the first time can happen again very easily. There’s no crime in being ranked too low as the system will willingly move you up over time, but if once it puts you too high then you’re stuck in limbo until the season re-sets again. Best of luck.
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> It’s sad that some people have to play like crap on purpose just to prevent the system from putting them into a situation where they’re forced to play like crap. Nobody should have to play in fear of the system deeming them too good and then placing them into a bracket they can’t compete in. I don’t know why 343 had such a -Yoink!- for the competitive scene this time around, but catering only to a minority of players and leaving no casual options just for fun (social playlists, casual gametypes), was a huge mistake.
It’s insane! I saw a YouTube video of a Killpocalypse in which people (including the person who posted it) advised throwing the first 10 games of SWAT so you could massacre the fodder and get the medals, which when you think about it, was a totally inevitable outcome of this system.
They need to bring back the social/ranked ranking system they had in Halo 3, the ranked games were fun when you wanted to play competitively while the social games were there for when you just wanted to play a quick pick-up game with people that were close to the same skill level as you. The rank-up system was also simple and made me want to level up my rank as much as possible. This would also let my overall rank go up based on skill and not simply based on how many games I’ve played just to get participation experience until i became bored from taking weeks to level up my character.
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> > > The system has some serious issues, no doubt about that. But the arena goes in seasons. I don’t know when this season will be over, but it won’t be more than a few weeks, and then a new season will start. When it does you will go into arena and play your ten placement matches just like you did in the first few days, and then be ranked all over again. This time around think very carefully about just how hard you want to push your performance - knowing that what happened to you the first time can happen again very easily. There’s no crime in being ranked too low as the system will willingly move you up over time, but if once it puts you too high then you’re stuck in limbo until the season re-sets again. Best of luck.
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> It’s insane! I saw a YouTube video of a Killpocalypse in which people (including the person who posted it) advised throwing the first 10 games of SWAT so you could massacre the fodder and get the medals, which when you think about it, was a totally inevitable outcome of this system.
There’s also experiences like me, I did bad on some of my placement games (not on purpose, but because i was rusty) and ended up getting ranked Gold, while my friend was ranked Onyx right off the bat, which was weird cause we played all but two of our ten placement games together??? Not only that but when we started playing more and I re-familiarized myself with playing, I WAS PLAYING BETTER THAN THE ONYX’S WE WERE AGAINST, as well as my friend who almost ended up ranking all the way to champion even though I played as good and sometimes better than him. Not only that but i felt terrible messing up the rankings of other players in my attempt to rank up. Because of me being in a lesser ranking than what (I think) my actual skill level is at, I caused other people who (may have) deserved to be put in Gold ranking to be put in Silver, causing the endless cycle of what happened to me.
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> > > > The system has some serious issues, no doubt about that. But the arena goes in seasons. I don’t know when this season will be over, but it won’t be more than a few weeks, and then a new season will start. When it does you will go into arena and play your ten placement matches just like you did in the first few days, and then be ranked all over again. This time around think very carefully about just how hard you want to push your performance - knowing that what happened to you the first time can happen again very easily. There’s no crime in being ranked too low as the system will willingly move you up over time, but if once it puts you too high then you’re stuck in limbo until the season re-sets again. Best of luck.
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> > > It’s sad that some people have to play like crap on purpose just to prevent the system from putting them into a situation where they’re forced to play like crap. Nobody should have to play in fear of the system deeming them too good and then placing them into a bracket they can’t compete in. I don’t know why 343 had such a -Yoink!- for the competitive scene this time around, but catering only to a minority of players and leaving no casual options just for fun (social playlists, casual gametypes), was a huge mistake.
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> > It’s insane! I saw a YouTube video of a Killpocalypse in which people (including the person who posted it) advised throwing the first 10 games of SWAT so you could m-Yoink-acre the fodder and get the medals, which when you think about it, was a totally inevitable outcome of this system.
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> There’s also experiences like me, I did bad on some of my placement games (not on purpose, but because i was rusty) and ended up getting ranked Gold, while my friend was ranked Onyx right off the bat, which was weird cause we played all but two of our ten placement games together??? Not only that but when we started playing more and I re-familiarized myself with playing, I WAS PLAYING BETTER THAN THE ONYX’S WE WERE AGAINST, as well as my friend who almost ended up ranking all the way to champion even though I played as good and sometimes better than him. Not only that but i felt terrible messing up the rankings of other players in my attempt to rank up. Because of me being in a lesser ranking than what (I think) my actual skill level is at, I caused other people who (may have) deserved to be put in Gold ranking to be put in Silver, causing the endless cycle of what happened to me.
For all these reasons, and a whole lot more besides, this ranking system is flawed. But the truth of the matter is that no Halo ever had a ranking system that wasn’t flawed in one way or another. Nobody has ever been able to build a system which is capable of accurately -Yoink-essing (I can’t believe the stupid language nanny won’t let me use the word A55E55MENT) a player’s skill. I don’t know why it’s so hard to do - I only know that it is. At any rate, this system has at least one thing in common with the Halo 3 system, and that’s the fact that people will spend almost as much time trying to figure out how to mani-Yoink-te (MAN1-Yoink-TE? Really???) it than they will playing the game itself. Sad, but certainly nothing new.
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> It sounds like you don’t want to play against anyone that’s your skill level.
not at all, I love playing a super competitive game with my friend where if you turn a corner not prepared to shoot you get “crack-shotted” (as my friend and I call it) or when it comes down to a sudden death with the next kill wins. I love those heart pounding moments, its probably the whole reason why i want to be placed in MORE games like that and not in games that we destroy a team 15-50 (its happened a couple times…).
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> I’ve gone from really enjoying this game and feeling it was OK-ish balance wise (recording a fairly even trade for K/Ds) to barely being able to land a shot before I’m destroyed and am now absolutely hating the experience .
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> This has all happened since I levelled from Silver to Gold, which I figured, fine, I’ll simply move back down again and rejoin a level I felt was balanced for my skill level. I’ve just been told however, that isn’t the case and I’m permanently locked at Gold getting destroyed every time I move an inch and having to partake in a game of hide and seek (god I hate those matches) to try and land a kill.
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> From what I can gather, you can move up and down the six stages of each level, but when you change colour, you can’t go back down. Who thought that was a good idea? And furthermore, who thought matchmaking promotions should be based on whether your team wins in slayer instead of KDA? And why are there random diamond and platinum players mixed in with the gold? None of this makes sense to me.
Matchmaking is retarded I had an 8/10 win rate and 2.2 kdr at the end of placement and I got only gold??? Yet for team arena I had a 5/10 win rate and 1kd and I was placed platinum