Matchmaking Map Choice Model: Vote or Veto?

We all know that in the beta, matchmaking just loaded any of the maps. Probably because there only were a few.

  1. Has there been said any thing about what system will be in place for the full game?
  2. What would you prefer?

My personal opinion based on experience is that a few maps always end up as favorites for most players, and when coupled with map voting, most games ends up with the same maps over and over. The veto system at least generated some variation since players were forced on the second alternative.

IMO I want neither. That way there’s more variety in game variants and maps.

i’m in favor with what 343 have suggested. a single map loads at random and you are forced to play it. make the map cycle alphabetic or at least predictable in order and your golden. random map cycles more often than not lead to certain maps showing up too often

there needs to be a voting option but when it ends in a tie there should be some kind of coin flip to pick the winner instead of the one on the left/top always winning

I remember hearing somewhere that the voting system is not in Halo 5 at all, and matchmaking just loads up any map. That would be a step forward IMO.

Dont take my word for it though as I dont have a source.

I would be in favor of vetoing OR voting, let democracy decide I say

If it’s true that any map just loads, that would be awesome, i agree.

Random loading a single map is good??? Turning the clock back to 2007 is good??? Why can’t anybody picture a system that throws away both “random single map” and “three map vote?” Give me something new that works better than what we’ve had in the past. It just isn’t that hard to do. Something that gives players more choice, not less. Something that reduces quitting, not encourages it. Something that looks like the future of gaming, not the past.

Niether, just put it on rotation.

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> Random loading a single map is good??? Turning the clock back to 2007 is good??? Why can’t anybody picture a system that throws away both “random single map” and “three map vote?” Give me something new that works better than what we’ve had in the past. It just isn’t that hard to do. Something that gives players more choice, not less. Something that reduces quitting, not encourages it. Something that looks like the future of gaming, not the past.

quitting will happen regardless, so long as people have subjective preferences of maps their will always be people who quit out because x map gets played. harsher quit penalties is what you should be asking for.

and yeah, i’d rather the game decided the maps instead of being forced to play same map voted over and over again. the vote system truly makes map variety non existent

I like the idea of rotation. It worked well in other games - if a map came up you didn’t like, you played it knowing you’d get something better next. The only thing is that this does mean that you can’t be returned to the playlist selection screen, as it would effectively be random (rotation would have to start again). If not rotation, I say veto. Random… I’m not too sure how I feel about it. Probably my least favourite of the lot. Rotation, veto, 3 choices, random.

I’d rather they have server browsers in Halo 5 so I can pick w/e map I want to join since the vote/veto system was pretty bad since it would always force people to play w/e decided to vote on and would lead to people quitting like if Halo 4 turned up in BTB.

i don’t want any choice, i don’t want voting to give me the same 2 or 3 maps game after game. and i don’t want veto because it invariably has the same result, if its not one of those 2 or 3 maps it won’t get played on and 9/10 times the next map will be one of them. so just load me into a lobby, tell me the playlist and leave the map and gametype until the loading screen pops up so you can easier identify if people are quitting because of the map/gametype than anything in the lobby and punish people accordingly

Personally I think that the reach Mulitplayer menu/layout was the best in the series.
I liked how you could vote none of the above.

Also I really enjoyed how you could scroll right and see what everyone’s Spartans looked like.

I would prefer veto with a mix of AR/pistol and BR spawns.

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> Random loading a single map is good??? Turning the clock back to 2007 is good??? Why can’t anybody picture a system that throws away both “random single map” and “three map vote?” Give me something new that works better than what we’ve had in the past. It just isn’t that hard to do. Something that gives players more choice, not less. Something that reduces quitting, not encourages it. Something that looks like the future of gaming, not the past.

And that would be…?

I would like to be given 4 options:
3 Map Choices
1 Choice to vote for a refresh of new maps

…and once you’ve voted you cannot change it, maybe

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> > Random loading a single map is good??? Turning the clock back to 2007 is good??? Why can’t anybody picture a system that throws away both “random single map” and “three map vote?” Give me something new that works better than what we’ve had in the past. It just isn’t that hard to do. Something that gives players more choice, not less. Something that reduces quitting, not encourages it. Something that looks like the future of gaming, not the past.
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> And that would be…?

exactly, they say what idea they want, but no suggestions as how to do it while we discuss the pro’s/con’s of the existing options.
voting means you will only ever play on one of 3 most popular maps, get bored and stop playing.

on veto if the map isn’t one of the 3 most popular maps it gets vetoed and the chances of the next map not being one of those 3 is always minimal for some reason. the other side is, if one of those maps comes up if you’re sick of seeing it… its not getting vetoed.

at least with a map rotation you get matched into a lobby, and stick with that lobby on a rotation of maps so you get to play all the maps and anyone who doesn’t want a map can leave in the lobby and be replaced this idea is actually better than the one i suggested above, so yea, lets go with this

It needs to be random like it was in Halo 2 for me. That gave the largest variety of game types, and maps to play. I quit playing MCC, because of the voting done in it. Let’s face it most people are afraid of change, and leaving their comfort zone, so the same things get played of and over.

Oh look, it’s this thread again…

343i has already confirmed it’s cycle-based like Gears of War.