> > > my csr is only 20 cause i share my profile with my brother and step brother, they don’t have online so i let them use mine when im not, they’re not that good lol
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> > You shouldn’t need to defend what your csr is. Csr doesn’t make your opinion less valid then some one with a higher csr. csr is just a system of ranking that is open to question anyway. it is not an IQ rating. Feel free to express your opinion, and ignore dumb comments like that.
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> When you’re talking about how the game is too easy and you’re on the lower end of csr, it definitely makes a difference. I’m not promoting stat flaming. That’s just how it came up.
I see your point, but his opinion still has merit regardless of wether or not he is a battle scarred halo veteran.
> > > > my csr is only 20 cause i share my profile with my brother and step brother, they don’t have online so i let them use mine when im not, they’re not that good lol
> > >
> > > You shouldn’t need to defend what your csr is. Csr doesn’t make your opinion less valid then some one with a higher csr. csr is just a system of ranking that is open to question anyway. it is not an IQ rating. Feel free to express your opinion, and ignore dumb comments like that.
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> > When you’re talking about how the game is too easy and you’re on the lower end of csr, it definitely makes a difference. I’m not promoting stat flaming. That’s just how it came up.
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> I see your point, but his opinion still has merit regardless of wether or not he is a battle scarred halo veteran.
Low CSR would mean that the playlist is providing at least some level of challenge in most cases, which would speak against his finding the game too easy. But i really wasn’t looking to get in a conversation over the merits of CSR.
What i would like to point out is that if you are letting your unskilled friends and family play your account regularly, your trueskill will be dragged down and you will be regularly playing less skilled opponents.
> > > > > my csr is only 20 cause i share my profile with my brother and step brother, they don’t have online so i let them use mine when im not, they’re not that good lol
> > > >
> > > > You shouldn’t need to defend what your csr is. Csr doesn’t make your opinion less valid then some one with a higher csr. csr is just a system of ranking that is open to question anyway. it is not an IQ rating. Feel free to express your opinion, and ignore dumb comments like that.
> > >
> > > When you’re talking about how the game is too easy and you’re on the lower end of csr, it definitely makes a difference. I’m not promoting stat flaming. That’s just how it came up.
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> > I see your point, but his opinion still has merit regardless of wether or not he is a battle scarred halo veteran.
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> Low CSR would mean that the playlist is providing at least some level of challenge in most cases, which would speak against his finding the game too easy. But i really wasn’t looking to get in a conversation over the merits of CSR.
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> What i would like to point out is that if you are letting your unskilled friends and family play your account regularly, your trueskill will be dragged down and you will be regularly playing less skilled opponents.
Same thing with Big Team Battle, having Slayer Pro as options just ruined it for me, now i find myself quitting when ever I get put into a game in progress because it is slayer pro. Map rotations for the past two game have nothing but Settler or Vortex now it seems, I have yet to play Ragnarok as a regular Infinity slayer in a few days!! Come on 343 why tweak your most popular playlists?? Why not tweak only those that do not have many people playing on them. I used to have a good time playing BTB now it is just frustrating having to restart the search because all the options are Slayer Pro or if they are Regular Infinity its usually Settler or Vortex.
> > > i don’t get why you guys don’t want to challenge yourself. Why would you want a game to be so easy?
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> > In the OP you were saying how difficult Pro was…
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> > Infinity Slayer invaded Halo against the majorities will. Pro has always been around and now offers the best, balanced, classic gameplay. Deal with it.
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> when you lone wolf against a group of 4 in pro its difficult. i also said that when my friends and i play like everyone else my team usually wins 600 to like 200. and whats with the hostility? i like a different aspect of the game then you do. to me pro is boring. yes its more balanced and more fair but its BORING to me. i have an opinion that differs from yours. you deal with it. i get that most of you prefer pro but none of us are wrong. you like the game one way i like it another so stop talking like theres a right and wrong. i’m lobbying for split playlists, whats the problem with that? i swear people looking for confrontation when theres no reason for it. i bet you wouldn’t be so confrontational in person so seriously grow up, just because the anonymity of the internet protects you doesnt mean you should be a -Yoink!- nozzel
Team based games are not meant to be played “lone wolf” BTW.
The hostility is because of these selfish threads that want to keep us from enjoying the best thing to happen to this game. Infinity wouldn’t be a problem with me if we actually had a genuine Team Slayer playlist.
The thing is you and several other people act like your entitled to play Infinity while the rest of us that want a classic gametype and playlist just get shuttered as we have been since the game was released.
And now, I say again, we basically have that and everyone gets all pissy. It’s not even like infinity has gone away like our classic gametypes had; it just has to share a playlist. Boo hoo.
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OP, people like you ruined Halo. People like you who want instantly gratifying join-in-progress, quitting without penalty, explosions, and free power weapon drops are the reason thousands have left this game and will never return.
> i mean combining kills artfully is more difficult in infinity slayer. slayer pro its pop pop pop pop pop with one gun. In infinty slayer you had to combine kills. it’s the lack of variety that bothers me. They’re equally easy to me, it’s just after doing the same thing 1,000 times in slayer pro its now REALLY easy
your joking right? it’s BEYOND easy to get 2,3,4 kills in a row on IS…there’s really not a lot of skill at all. This being said I’M not a hardcore pro either. IS is WAY easier then Pro I think.
I want it to go back to how it was in H3 4-4,weapons on the map, radar, no LO, and no AA powers. I just think AA powers and/or equipment should be an ordnance drops and only be able to use once or twice. H3 had it right honesty.
> Against human opponent there are no easier or harder gametypes, just easier and harder opponents.
False.
Two players enter the battlefield. Both have a random ordinance call. One player, a very experienced player, his best choice is a needler. The other player who is playing Halo for the first time ever gets an incinerator cannon. Guess who probably wins? Skill has been completely nullified.
Another example. Two players duel with BR’s. The more experienced player is more accurate with his shots and is one shot away from winning. The losing player chucks a plasma grenade and sticks the other player. The previously losing player either causes a draw or actually wins. Skill has been completely nullified.
> > Against human opponent there are no easier or harder gametypes, just easier and harder opponents.
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> Pretty sure Team Snipers is harder than Team AR’s.
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> There are definitely easy/hard or competitive/casual gametypes.
I know that for competitve player better gametypes are these with less factors, so pure skill gap is more visible, but calling these gametypes “harder” is weird, since they’re much easier to understand and embrace.
> Two players enter the battlefield. Both have a random ordinance call. One player, a very experienced player, his best choice is a needler. The other player who is playing Halo for the first time ever gets an incinerator cannon. Guess who probably wins? Skill has been completely nullified.
Rocket launcher in hands of noob is much more dangerous for him, than for anyone else, so I would give my money on more experienced player with needler. I actually saw many situations like these, when someone with IC was so focused on his weapon, he didn’t care about these needles that were going on him.
> Another example. Two players duel with BR’s. The more experienced player is more accurate with his shots and is one shot away from winning. The losing player chucks a plasma grenade and sticks the other player. The previously losing player either causes a draw or actually wins. Skill has been completely nullified.
IMO it needs much more skill to stick someone with plasma grenade than to perform headshot with BR, especially under pressure.
Again, where you see just chaos and randomness, some people will see opportunities.
> > > Against human opponent there are no easier or harder gametypes, just easier and harder opponents.
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> > Pretty sure Team Snipers is harder than Team AR’s.
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> > There are definitely easy/hard or competitive/casual gametypes.
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> I know that for competitve player better gametypes are these with less factors, so pure skill gap is more visible, but calling these gametypes “harder” is weird, since they’re much easier to understand and embrace.
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> > Two players enter the battlefield. Both have a random ordinance call. One player, a very experienced player, his best choice is a needler. The other player who is playing Halo for the first time ever gets an incinerator cannon. Guess who probably wins? Skill has been completely nullified.
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> Rocket launcher in hands of noob is much more dangerous for him, than for anyone else, so I would give my money on more experienced player with needler. I actually saw many situations like these, when someone with IC was so focused on his weapon, he didn’t care about these needles that were going on him.
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> > Another example. Two players duel with BR’s. The more experienced player is more accurate with his shots and is one shot away from winning. The losing player chucks a plasma grenade and sticks the other player. The previously losing player either causes a draw or actually wins. Skill has been completely nullified.
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> IMO it needs much more skill to stick someone with plasma grenade than to perform headshot with BR, especially under pressure.
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> Again, where you see just chaos and randomness, some people will see opportunities.
Wow, completely missed the point. No it is not harder to stick someone point blank than it is to plant 4 body shots and a headshot. And lets say the “noob” has played other shooters before and knows how to aim. Incinerator cannon vs needler. C’mon, really? REALLY?
> > Everyone avoids Slayer Pro 9/10 and pick whatever Infinity Slayer option is available. That says alot.
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> Actually 9/10 it seems like everyone is avoiding Infinity Slayer. Hmmm…
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> your word against mine.
Well you clearly have not been playing in the games I have. Maybe your experiences are different, maybe you and your friends vote for it more and that is why it seems that way to you. I am speaking of my experience whenever I play without a team as relying on random people. So what does your word have to do with anything? Do you think you are special or something? Do you want a cookie?
> > > Everyone avoids Slayer Pro 9/10 and pick whatever Infinity Slayer option is available. That says alot.
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> > Actually 9/10 it seems like everyone is avoiding Infinity Slayer. Hmmm…
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> > your word against mine.
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> Well you clearly have not been playing in the games I have. Maybe your experiences are different, maybe you and your friends vote for it more and that is why it seems that way to you. I am speaking of my experience whenever I play without a team as relying on random people. So what does your word have to do with anything? Do you think you are special or something? Do you want a cookie?
Clearly. What does your word have to do with anything either? We are all special, each and every one. And yes, as a matter of fact I do want a cookie.
> Wow, completely missed the point. No it is not harder to stick someone point blank than it is to plant 4 body shots and a headshot. And lets say the “noob” has played other shooters before and knows how to aim. Incinerator cannon vs needler. C’mon, really? REALLY?
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> Au contrair.
Just like everyone who plays Halo, I’ve done many, many more headshots, than stickies.
As for Incinerator Cannon vs Needler, I don’t think it was a good example. IC’s projectile makes whole lot of mess and obscures much of view. It’s user may not even know that needles are going on him. On the other hand someone with Needler can focus on dodging IC’s projectile, instead of aiming. Needles will stick to target and explode any way.
> > my csr is only 20 cause i share my profile with my brother and step brother, they don’t have online so i let them use mine when im not, they’re not that good lol
>
> You shouldn’t need to defend what your csr is. Csr doesn’t make your opinion less valid then some one with a higher csr. csr is just a system of ranking that is open to question anyway. it is not an IQ rating. Feel free to express your opinion, and ignore dumb comments like that.
When he is making a point that the game is too easy it is.
Yes k/d or CSR do not does not carry any weight when an individual is talking about his opinion of fun/enjoyments and other things. But when a person begins to talk about something being easy, game balance, skill or strategy; K/D and Ranks carry significance in making their argument valid. If you are unable to win constantly Then there is a higher chance you do not understand the game fully and your opinion on such matter should not be considered valid when talking about such subjects.
Its like me saying shooting a basket ball is easy and make a claim that I have a superior way to shoot when I am shooting below the average everyone else is. I am obviously struggling and I am not in the top percent so I can’t say it is easy or that I understand how to shoot. It the same thing with Halo.
Saying you don’t like Slayer Pro is a valid opinion. Saying one is more skillfull than the other when you aren’t even successful at one, isn’t.
> > > > slayer pro has completely ruined my style of play. I’m a lone wolf type of player but you can’t succeed that way in slayer pro because in every game i play it seems at least 3 or all 4 of the other team run together in a pack so you round a corner and boom boom they all hit you with a dmr and your dead in less than a second so you can’t even react. and yes people roll deep in infinity slayer as well but with armor abilities and plasma’s you can even the playing field
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> > > This quote. This made me throw up in my mouth a little.
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> > THIS is 343’s goal:
> > To make halo nooby.
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> > AA’s really ruin Reach matchmaking in my experience.
> > They don’t go well with Halo.
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> i don’t know how you can say that when halo 4 has raked in the awards for its multiplayer long before they put pro in the infinity playlist. you may not like it and thats fine, as i’ve said like 10 times now just make a seperate playlist and we all can have what we want
Lol I have no idea either how Halo 4 raked in the awards for it’s multiplier when people were fleeing so fast from this game.