I just realized John will have just turned 49 in Halo: Infinite. His birthday is March 7th, 2511. Halo: Infinite takes place roughly May 2560. Any thoughts on how or if this will impact gameplay or thought processes by The Chief? i.e. Will he have a bigger understanding of people he has known? Such as the marriage of Buck and Veronica on the UNSC Infinity? Will he think of that as a happy thought? Or more like a “Happy for you but not something that interests me” kind of thing?
I’m not sure.
I’ve heard that Cryosleep affects the ageing process but I might have got that mixed up with something from Star Wars.
I don’t foresee his age being impactful to his journey in Halo Infinite. Cortana might try to play some mind games about how he spent the majority of his life fighting in one way or another and that she can finally give him rest, but I don’t see Chief biting after that.
well lots of things to take into consideration , for one age in that time for humans is a lot longer than it is for us. So people living 130-150 years is more doable ,plus a spartan with all there biological enhancments is going to feel a lot more fit at there age than a normal person. Add on to the fact that john was changed by the
Librarian in halo 4, and without going to much into it might just be a iso didact now, so his life expectancy will be massive now. With that plot point they could keep him around forever tbh. so i dont think age really matter for chief anymore.
Well, to put it into perspective, Johnson was in his 70s in Halo 3. He was quite chippy with his Orion augmentations. Considering Chief’s Spartan-II augmentations and the general progress of humanity’s health 500+ years into the future, I’d say 49 is like the new 19.
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> I’ve heard that Cryosleep affects the ageing process but I might have got that mixed up with something from Star Wars.
You are correct. Cryosleep slows the aging process significantly, which is why Jerome and the rest of Red Team are far younger than the rest of the Spartan IIs since they were in cryo for so long. So Chief’s true age is likely much younger than his objective age due to how long he has spent in cryo, even without including the four years he spent in cryo aboard the FUD.
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> Well, to put it into perspective, Johnson was in his 70s in Halo 3. He was quite chippy with his Orion augmentations. Considering Chief’s Spartan-II augmentations and the general progress of humanity’s health 500+ years into the future, I’d say 49 is like the new 19.
The medical advances and augmentations are also a good point.
In Bad Blood, Buck asks one of the augmentation technicians what his life expectancy was. The answer he got was basically “no one knows”. So for all we know, a Spartan could be combat effective well into an age that we would consider to be retirement age.
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> You are correct. Cryosleep slows the aging process significantly, which is why Jerome and the rest of Red Team are far younger than the rest of the Spartan IIs since they were in cryo for so long. So Chief’s true age is likely much younger than his objective age due to how long he has spent in cryo, even without including the four years he spent in cryo aboard the FUD.
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> > Well, to put it into perspective, Johnson was in his 70s in Halo 3. He was quite chippy with his Orion augmentations. Considering Chief’s Spartan-II augmentations and the general progress of humanity’s health 500+ years into the future, I’d say 49 is like the new 19.
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> The medical advances and augmentations are also a good point.
> In Bad Blood, Buck asks one of the augmentation technicians what his life expectancy was. The answer he got was basically “no one knows”. So for all we know, a Spartan could be combat effective well into an age that we would consider to be retirement age.
That’s always been a big question for me. Assuming you haven’t died, how long would you live? My two thoughts are either you’ll live a lot longer because of the augments or maybe its like steroids and it will come back to bite you in the future if you live long enough. I do hope we’ll get an answer but I doubt we will.
Edit: I wonder how time will affect them depending on what Spartan program they were part of. So much questions!
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> > You are correct. Cryosleep slows the aging process significantly, which is why Jerome and the rest of Red Team are far younger than the rest of the Spartan IIs since they were in cryo for so long. So Chief’s true age is likely much younger than his objective age due to how long he has spent in cryo, even without including the four years he spent in cryo aboard the FUD.
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> > The medical advances and augmentations are also a good point.
> > In Bad Blood, Buck asks one of the augmentation technicians what his life expectancy was. The answer he got was basically “no one knows”. So for all we know, a Spartan could be combat effective well into an age that we would consider to be retirement age.
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> That’s always been a big question for me. Assuming you haven’t died, how long would you live? My two thoughts are either you’ll live a lot longer because of the augments or maybe its like steroids and it will come back to bite you in the future if you live long enough. I do hope we’ll get an answer but I doubt we will.
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> Edit: I wonder how time will affect them depending on what Spartan program they were part of. So much questions!
I actually kinda like it being open-ended and unknown. Gives us fans something to speculate on lol. My thoughts on this are split depending on the classes:
- S1: augmentations increase life expectancy in some but typically result in early deaths for others - S2 and S3: augmentations increase life expectancy with only minor long term effects (like Naomi losing her -Yoink!- drive) - S4: augmentations decrease life expectancy unless the candidate receives regular neurological and chemical adjustments (could be a real problem with the Created Uprising and a lack of resources)
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> You are correct. Cryosleep slows the aging process significantly, which is why Jerome and the rest of Red Team are far younger than the rest of the Spartan IIs since they were in cryo for so long. So Chief’s true age is likely much younger than his objective age due to how long he has spent in cryo, even without including the four years he spent in cryo aboard the FUD.
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> > Well, to put it into perspective, Johnson was in his 70s in Halo 3. He was quite chippy with his Orion augmentations. Considering Chief’s Spartan-II augmentations and the general progress of humanity’s health 500+ years into the future, I’d say 49 is like the new 19.
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> The medical advances and augmentations are also a good point.
> In Bad Blood, Buck asks one of the augmentation technicians what his life expectancy was. The answer he got was basically “no one knows”. So for all we know, a Spartan could be combat effective well into an age that we would consider to be retirement age.
To add to your point:
In The Official Spartan Field Manual, on page 25, it is noted that Spartan-IVs undergo gene therapy. It’s estimated that a Spartan’s peak fighting condition is one (1) century. Yes, that’s right, not just fighting condition, but just peak fighting condition is 100 years. Good lord…
‘The full extent of these modifications are classified, but in addition to general health improvements, Spartan augmentations should allow for a longer lifespan. The upper limit of a Spartan-IV’s lifespan has not been found, but we expect your peak fighting days will exceed a century.’
The bigger issue is that 117s voice actor is 67 right now. Rather risky for the next 10 years.
Chief may be pushing 50 but he still has the body of a 20 year in perfect shape so I don’t think we’ll ever have to worry about his age
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> > Well, to put it into perspective, Johnson was in his 70s in Halo 3. He was quite chippy with his Orion augmentations. Considering Chief’s Spartan-II augmentations and the general progress of humanity’s health 500+ years into the future, I’d say 49 is like the new 19.
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> The medical advances and augmentations are also a good point.
> In Bad Blood, Buck asks one of the augmentation technicians what his life expectancy was. The answer he got was basically “no one knows”. So for all we know, a Spartan could be combat effective well into an age that we would consider to be retirement age.
I am speaking of his true age. His Birthday can be found on this website. Under ONI Files. https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/characters/master-chief-john-117 as to Bad Blood, you are correct. No one knows the life expectancy. Considering they are meant to fight to the death. Without any retirement plans… No spartan has ever retired since the Spartan II Program immediately following the Augmentation Process as described in Halo: First Contact.
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> Chief may be pushing 50 but he still has the body of a 20 year in perfect shape so I don’t think we’ll ever have to worry about his age
You did not happen to see the drawing of Chief made by Bungie a few months ago, did you? He is not a young looking man. Supposedly bald, VERY White pasty skin, scar lines and quite old looking, if I do say so myself. I can link a photo if you would like?
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> > Chief may be pushing 50 but he still has the body of a 20 year in perfect shape so I don’t think we’ll ever have to worry about his age
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> You did not happen to see the drawing of Chief made by Bungie a few months ago, did you? He is not a young looking man. Supposedly bald, VERY White pasty skin, scar lines and quite old looking, if I do say so myself. I can link a photo if you would like?
Well if it was made by Bungie, a few months ago, it would definitely not be canon.
Due to the augmentations, Cheif should be able to still preform as well as a young spartan 4 maybe even better. The only problems I can see Cheif having are PTSD problems of losing those he loved such as Cortana. I also feel that a big reason Cheif would be sad about the loss of Cortana is that during Johnson’s death scene Cheif promised him he’d never lose her a promise he broke in halo 4 after Cortana’s death. Cheif could suffer in the fact that he was unable to keep a promise to a friend.
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> > Chief may be pushing 50 but he still has the body of a 20 year in perfect shape so I don’t think we’ll ever have to worry about his age
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> You did not happen to see the drawing of Chief made by Bungie a few months ago, did you? He is not a young looking man. Supposedly bald, VERY White pasty skin, scar lines and quite old looking, if I do say so myself. I can link a photo if you would like?
You mind posting a link?
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> > Chief may be pushing 50 but he still has the body of a 20 year in perfect shape so I don’t think we’ll ever have to worry about his age
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> You did not happen to see the drawing of Chief made by Bungie a few months ago, did you? He is not a young looking man. Supposedly bald, VERY White pasty skin, scar lines and quite old looking, if I do say so myself. I can link a photo if you would like?
Yeah link the photo. I’m curious.
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> Due to the augmentations, Cheif should be able to still preform as well as a young spartan 4 maybe even better. The only problems I can see Cheif having are PTSD problems of losing those he loved such as Cortana. I also feel that a big reason Cheif would be sad about the loss of Cortana is that during Johnson’s death scene Cheif promised him he’d never lose her a promise he broke in halo 4 after Cortana’s death. Cheif could suffer in the fact that he was unable to keep a promise to a friend.
To be fair, he didn’t technically break that promise; sadly there was no saving Cortana at the time. Halsey was in jail for her passed crimes and most definitely WASN’T on Earth (as far as I can recall anyway) like they thought she would be considering the war and the recall of all assets to defend her. And even if she HAD been, Halsey wouldn’t have been able to fix her anyway as Cortana was the first technical clone of a human brain made from actual tissue. Any other attempts at doing this beforehand has been deemed outlawed so not much is known about Cortana’s make and even her comment of ‘they might even pair you with another Cortana model if Halsey lets them’ is purely her speculating that Halsey will refuse John to be paired up with just ANY AI. That she would personally take another version of Cortana herself to pair with him as her model make isn’t technically official.
But yes, I can see your point; he may very well have PTSD from losing so many he’s cared about. First Captain Keyes who he met a long time ago when Halsey found him, then Foe Hammer who he had a lot of respect for, and THEN he had to almost lose Cortana as she had to stay behind in case she had to detonate the In Amber Clad, then he lost IAC’s commander Miranda Keyes, and then Johnson practically back to back, then actually LOST Cortana. Heck, that’s not even counting all of the Spartans he sent into battle only to find out they died or watched them die like Sam. The Chief has been fighting and losing people since he was 14; first was the loss of the 30 some Spartans to the augmentation process and then the following wars that claimed even more lives of those he came to care for. If not for his cool demeanor and intense training, I’d almost say the Master Chief was a walking, ticking, emotional time bomb at this point. I think the point where he would actually snap is if any member of Blue Team were to perish considering they’ve technically been down one Spartan since their first official Op against the Covenant. Losing anyone else on that team would be the straw that breaks the camels back for him. Because they’re all he feels he has left in this Galaxy or even Universe that he knows he can without a doubt trust.
Not really, I mean, he’s shown no signs of slowing down on the battlefield. Spartans aren’t like normal humans, their life expectancy is elevated as well as their overall peak performance. So, even being biologically 49, he may as well be a 20 year old normal male athlete.
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> Not really, I mean, he’s shown no signs of slowing down on the battlefield. Spartans aren’t like normal humans, their life expectancy is elevated as well as their overall peak performance. So, even being biologically 49, he may as well be a 20 year old normal male athlete.
Don’t forget he was in cryo- stasis between 3 and 4 so his body is younger