Just taking a shot in the dark here. In Halo 4 when the Librarian accelerates Master Chief’s evolution. She makes a reference to planting seeds for advanced human evolution (such as the spartans) as well as the knowledge on how to create an AI such as Cortana. We also know of this from reading the Forerunners Saga series. Also in that same series the humans are interrogating a Monitor who ends up stealing a human ship to search for the Librarian that it believes is still alive.
Now in the Halo 5 teaser it shows a large Forerunner construct. Could it not be that the Master Chief is searching for the Librarian as a way to bring Cortana back? From reading the Forerunners Saga We know that the Forerunners AI’s never reached a state of rampancy. Something that the humans and the Dr. Halsey have not been able to do.
Perhaps John is searching for the Librarian. She has had a good look at Cortana already on Requiem and has knowledge of AIs that far surpasses that of the humans.
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> Now in the Halo 5 teaser it shows a large Forerunner construct. Could it not be that the Master Chief is searching for the Librarian as a way to bring Cortana back? From reading the Forerunners Saga We know that the Forerunners AI’s never reached a state of rampancy. Something that the humans and the Dr. Halsey have not been able to do.
Forerunner AI’s do go rampant. Mendicant Bias, for starters. Though, he was a special case because his rampancy was a direct result of the Gravemind’s tampering. Other examples are 343 Guilty Spark. It could also be argued that Penitent Tangent was also rampant during Halo 2, but there’s no concrete confirmation of that.
> Perhaps John is searching for the Librarian. She has had a good look at Cortana already on Requiem and has knowledge of AIs that far surpasses that of the humans.
But the Librarian (and an AI at that), has never been able to cure rampancy. If she could, she would have done it straight away on Requiem. I’d be more inclined to believe that Chief is searching for Mendicant Bias, rather than the Librarian. Makes a lot more sense.
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You have a point on AI’s going rampant. That did take over 100 thousand years in 343 Guilty Sparks case. I also realize that the Librarian on Requiem was an AI.
What I was referring to was the actual Librarian being alive. From the last page of Halo Primordium: The Forerunners Saga.
Guilty Spark: “You and I are brothers in many ways … not least in that we faced the Didact before, and face him now, and perhaps ever after. This is combat eternal, enmity unslaked, unified by only one thing: our love for the elusive Lifeshaper. Without her, humans would have been extinguished many times over. Both I and the Didact lover her to this day.”
“One of you almost certainly carries Vinnevra and Riser’s old spirits within. Only the Lifeshaper can find them and coax my friends back to life. And after a hundred thousand years of exploration and study … I know where to find her.”
These couple of paragraphs are what gave me this idea.
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> Just taking a shot in the dark here. In Halo 4 when the Librarian accelerates Master Chief’s evolution. She makes a reference to planting seeds for advanced human evolution (such as the spartans) as well as the knowledge on how to create an AI such as Cortana. We also know of this from reading the Forerunners Saga series. Also in that same series the humans are interrogating a Monitor who ends up stealing a human ship to search for the Librarian that it believes is still alive.
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The “Monitor” Was he, himself or a copy of; 343 Guilty Spark. The massive Forerunner AI in the “Desert” trailer was Mendicant Bias, who was buried in the desert of Installation 00 (The Ark).
What the Forerunner saga did; was set up the pretense that the Librarian & the Iso-Didact are still alive, somewhere. That is for sure plot lines that 343 intends to follow.
Although, I disagree with you on the “rampancy” part. The Librarian herself clarified that AI’s, like the Monitors who were created by the Composer CAN go rampant. Guilty Spark clearly was suffering from rampancy.
The search for the Librarian is definitely a possibility. And if Chief does go back to the Ark for answers, and finds Mendicant Bias; he is sure to get some kind of information. That information may be in the Janus Key.
The librarian is dead, she died on earth in silentium. Guilty Spark is likely out looking for the one she passed her Lifeshaper tittle too while mistakenly thinking it is the Librarian herself.
I hope this doesnt turn into a space soap.
I dont want to play a whole game where a character is looking for his digital girlfriend.
If he is looking for Hals and then she brings back a Cortana, that would be fine.
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> I don’t think it took Spark over 100,000 years to go rampant, he displayed problems way before his ring was found by the Covenant and humanity.
So… his behavior was part of his programming but not intently?
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> So… his behavior was part of his programming but not intently?
In terms of dealing with the Flood, he was behaving exactly as ‘protocol’ dictated. His “problems” stem from the fact that he falsely identified Chief, as the IsoDidact, and during the 100,000 year period, began hallucinating that he had a partner with him on the Installation to combat loneliness. The fact that he spent so long with no means of communication, anywhere, caused him to be severely depressed. This is why he is delighted when he discovers the mysterious ship that crashes on the Halo ring, but saddened again, when no life forms are apparently present. And then beyond excited again, when the Reclaimers (PoA) crashes on the ring.
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Highly doubtful. The IsoDidact, Chant to Green, and an unknown number of other Forerunners (Lifeworkers and Warrior-Servants) survived on the Lesser Ark, reseeded the galaxy, and then went on the Great Journey. What became of them, we do not know. Time is hardly much of a concern when they’ve got Shield Worlds and things like slipspace field pods where time passes much slower for the occupant. Likewise, there are hundreds of Shield Worlds, and while Mendicant betrayed many of their locations we know that the Flood did not get them all.
Also, at the end of Primordium, Chakas tells the Rubicon crew that he has discovered the location of the “elusive Lifeshaper”, believing that the Librarian is still alive when she actually passed that title to Chant. We’ve had several hints that the Forerunners are still out there somewhere, and Chakas is on his way to them.
Heres some food for thought. People say chief is an aging spartan/human and will not be able to fight for much longer but what if when the librarian
Advanced his evolution. Specially after being augmented to start with he will live alot longer for instance the forerunners could live for thousands of years after they advanced there own evolution. And the original humans I think I read somewhere could live for hundreds of years and the florians I think they were called could live up to a thousand years old. So would it be that far fetched that chief could actually live for decades if not hundreds of years longer than a normal human? Also on the rampancy side of things the forerunner AI’s did eventually get rampancy but only after hundreds or thousands of years. For example the forerunners had AI’S in there armor the librarian had the same ai all of her life which I can’t remember exactly but I think she was over 10000 years old. So rampancy wasn’t as much of a problem for them also they did state they could actually repair AI’S that were rampant they just chose to not do it with medicant bias as a punishment and make him think about what he did for eternity. Questions upon questions.
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> Heres some food for thought. People say chief is an aging spartan/human and will not be able to fight for much longer but what if when the librarian
> Advanced his evolution. Specially after being augmented to start with he will live alot longer for instance the forerunners could live for thousands of years after they advanced there own evolution. And the original humans I think I read somewhere could live for hundreds of years and the florians I think they were called could live up to a thousand years old. So would it be that far fetched that chief could actually live for decades if not hundreds of years longer than a normal human? Also on the rampancy side of things the forerunner AI’s did eventually get rampancy but only after hundreds or thousands of years. For example the forerunners had AI’S in there armor the librarian had the same ai all of her life which I can’t remember exactly but I think she was over 10000 years old. So rampancy wasn’t as much of a problem for them also they did state they could actually repair AI’S that were rampant they just chose to not do it with medicant bias as a punishment and make him think about what he did for eternity. Questions upon questions.
Don’t think his life is extended. His Accelerated evolution may have just been a way for his body to be incompatible with the composers configuration. Basically the composer is designed to Zap X Y and Z and she advanced Chief to be X+2 which stopped it from digitizing him.
I think all spartans carry the same genetic marker as master chief. but now that MC is further along evolution wise, he is responding more to the forced genetic thingy the librarian planted. (which is why MC and his team can go ahead, according to the campaign footage, because they have the genetic marker) But of course, that’s just a theory… A GAME THEO–