Master chief armor change?

So I was wondering if master chief’s armor change has story behind it like how they said H4 armor was different cause cortana worked on it in cryo sleep

Yes, but unlike Halo 4 this is a completely new suit.

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> Yes, but unlike Halo 4 this is a completely new suit.

Is it covered in any books?

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> Is it covered in any books?

I haven’t read Shadows of Reach yet, but it’s possible it was covered there. Gotta finish the current sci-fi series I’m reading before I jump in lol.

It was covered a little bit in a canon fodder post I believe, and there have been more than a few youtubers who have gone over the text scroll we see in the boot up sequence in the 2019 E3 trailer that shows the suit Chief is wearing is Gen 3 Mjolnir armor.

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Yeah Shadows of Reach chapter 1 or 2 I believe, can’t remember exactly what is said, they don’t go into it in too much depth, mostly remember that they just cover that Blue Team have new GEN3 suits, and that John’s suit has similarities to his old one. I think I also recall them saying that Halsey was involved somehow in with the new Mjolnirs.

To me, the change between the Mk VI MOD (H4-H5) armor to the Mk VI GEN3 (Infinite) is much, much less of a continuity issue than was the Mk VI (H2-H3) to Mk VI MOD transition in Halo 4.

The Mk VI GEN3 is an entirely new suit of Mjolnir, despite its resemblance to the GEN1 version John wore in Halo 2 and 3. The Mk VI MOD is, supposedly, the same armor Chief went into cry with at the end of Halo 3- it literally has to be the same armor, from a continuity standpoint. I’ve never liked the “I updated your suit’s firmware while you were out,” explanation for the change, because the Mk VI MOD is such a dramatically different design from the Mk VI GEN1; it doesn’t look like an upgraded version of Chief’s old armor to me, it looks like an entirely distinct and separate suit. I’ve never disliked the visual design of the Mk VI MOD (actually I dig it) , but this contrived stretch of an explanation for it has always soured me on it from a lore perspective.

Luckily, the Infinite armor doesn’t have to be the same suit we saw Chief in at the end of H5; unlike the transition between Halos 3 and 4, there has been ample time and opportunity between the end of H5 and where Infinite will pick up for John to have been issued a new suit or Mjolnir. I’ve read Shadows of Reach, and while I can confirm it does not cover the details of when/how/why Blue Team has been issued GEN3 armor, it does detail some of the armors cool new capabilities and features.

I’m truthfully not at all bothered by the fact we don’t know precisely when Chief upgraded from his H5 armor to the Mk VI GEN3. It’s sufficient explanation IMO that the Mk VI MOD was pretty much trashed by the end of H5 and Chief and the rest of Blue Team were upgraded to the most current and sophisticated Mjolnir platform between games. That makes so much more sense to me than, “It was upgraded (completely transformed from the ground up) by Nanobots while you were napping”

I like the new Chief armor, I think 343’s design wasn’t the best and I’m happy to see this new design.

I think it’s a fully blown new suit, gen 3. I believe Halsey made it for him? I don’t know if these thoughts are canon or fan theory, sorry lol

Yes, there is great lore behind it. The Halo 4 and 5 armor was Lee’s popular in the community, so 343 thought “We better change this fast!” I like the new Infinite armor.

I think alot of peoples aversion to the Chief’s appearance when Halo 4 debuted, was its radically diffrent visuals. Gone was the familiar to something, while still cool and futuristic, completely unexpected. I rather liked his new look. A departure yes, but it was refreshing to see Chief sport a new look.
Hindsight being 20/20, if 343i were to have maybe went with the Multiplayer Mk VI variant as the Chief’s campaign look, it wouldn’t have been so jarring. He had an already established aesthetic during the closing of Halo 3, and the “nano-machines” explanation was an easy cop out.
I like that the GEN 2 armor looked different, using the armored techsuit idea, and having the metal armor matrices attach to was an awesome, super sci-fi asthetic. Completely new and diffrent from the, at the time, Spartan 2’s and 3’s looks and feel.

Regarding the GEN 3, I’ve listened to the audio book of Shadows of Reach??? And SPOILER ALERT* there is very little to explain the acquisition of then new armor. It says they have it, and thats really all it delves into. Wouldve preferred a longer exposition as to why the change was necessary for Blue Team.

While I do like the Chief’s return to form, I really hope that I can suit up with the GEN 2 HUNTER-Class armor used by Spartan Locke, in Multiplayer. Please 343i, can I has Hunter Armor?

The armor really change,while it has some aesthetics that look equal to the mark VI GEN1 this new armor he is wearing in halo infinite is practically top of the line MJOLNIR GEN 3,while it has the same shields as GEN 2 the GEN3 is in the edge of electronics than the UNSC can provide against AI infiltration and well the armor is a good sign of what is to become that 343 has to provide in the design of future armors

Well, this new armor is a completely new suit. Like how Chief got upgraded to Mark VI GEN2 between Halo 3 and 4 for no reason explained in-game, This new armor Is Mark VI GEN3. It is better, stronger, and more upgraded from GEN2.

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> To me, the change between the Mk VI MOD (H4-H5) armor to the Mk VI GEN3 (Infinite) is much, much less of a continuity issue than was the Mk VI (H2-H3) to Mk VI MOD transition in Halo 4.
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> The Mk VI GEN3 is an entirely new suit of Mjolnir, despite its resemblance to the GEN1 version John wore in Halo 2 and 3. The Mk VI MOD is, supposedly, the same armor Chief went into cry with at the end of Halo 3- it literally has to be the same armor, from a continuity standpoint. I’ve never liked the “I updated your suit’s firmware while you were out,” explanation for the change, because the Mk VI MOD is such a dramatically different design from the Mk VI GEN1; it doesn’t look like an upgraded version of Chief’s old armor to me, it looks like an entirely distinct and separate suit. I’ve never disliked the visual design of the Mk VI MOD (actually I dig it) , but this contrived stretch of an explanation for it has always soured me on it from a lore perspective.
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> Luckily, the Infinite armor doesn’t have to be the same suit we saw Chief in at the end of H5; unlike the transition between Halos 3 and 4, there has been ample time and opportunity between the end of H5 and where Infinite will pick up for John to have been issued a new suit or Mjolnir. I’ve read Shadows of Reach, and while I can confirm it does not cover the details of when/how/why Blue Team has been issued GEN3 armor, it does detail some of the armors cool new capabilities and features.
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> I’m truthfully not at all bothered by the fact we don’t know precisely when Chief upgraded from his H5 armor to the Mk VI GEN3. It’s sufficient explanation IMO that the Mk VI MOD was pretty much trashed by the end of H5 and Chief and the rest of Blue Team were upgraded to the most current and sophisticated Mjolnir platform between games. That makes so much more sense to me than, “It was upgraded (completely transformed from the ground up) by Nanobots while you were napping”

Well thought out, agree with you here. I also don’t hate the Mk VI MOD, but really disliked how it was introduced. I think the entire experience of Halo 4 was jarring, where so many elements had been arbitrarily replaced just so that 343 could make their mark on Halo.
I’m glad that they are going back to an older aesthetic for the armor, and the GEN3 explanation works fine for me. Would really like to see them do the same to scale back a slew of other 343 designs… i.e. the rocket launcher, or going back to the DT-77 Pelican instead of 343’s DT-79. Or maybe in the inevitable Halo 4 remaster decades from now they can make the Dawn look like a Charon-class again.

Basically MC has changed armor much like he did in Halo 2. Now he is wearing Mjolnir GEN3 as opposed to the GEN1 he was still wearing in 4 and 5.

I really hope Halsey comes face to face with Cortana in Infinite and after seeing her upgrades to the 4/5 suit she drops the same line she did on Jorge in Reach lol

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> Is it covered in any books?

It’s covered pretty well in Shadows of Reach.

Same old same old, Halsey fills random needs with new tech and materials, ever strengthening the Spartan program.

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> It’s covered pretty well in Shadows of Reach.
> Same old same old, Halsey fills random needs with new tech and materials, ever strengthening the Spartan program.

As she always does, this is the same woman that tricked a contender-class A.I

Well, I imagine its an entirely new set of armor. One of the Halo Infinite trailers from last year showed the armor being constructed, and it is considered Gen 3.

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> The armor really change,while it has some aesthetics that look equal to the mark VI GEN1 this new armor he is wearing in halo infinite is practically top of the line MJOLNIR GEN 3,while it has the same shields as GEN 2 the GEN3 is in the edge of electronics than the UNSC can provide against AI infiltration and well the armor is a good sign of what is to become that 343 has to provide in the design of future armors

Let’s be mindful of dates in the future – this post is several months old at this point. :slight_smile: