Master Chief and the Geas of The Didact

I would like to start this off by saying i write many theories and i enjoy writing them. even if i don’t like the idea i will still spend many hours fleshing it out because i feel like i am on to something. That being said i don’t like the idea i wrote about other humans living because i feel it cheapens the experience a little though i recognize this is because of stargate not halo. So i tell you know even though i wrote and shared this with you do not assume that i like the outcome or the consequences of such knowledge…

> “More or less. Technically, this installation’s pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood.” (Pause) “But you already knew that… I mean, how couldn’t you?”
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> 343 Guilty Spark: “We have followed outbreak containment procedure to the letter. You were with me each step of the way, as we managed this crisis.”
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> 343 Guilty Spark: “Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?”
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> 343 Guilty Spark: “Last time, you asked me, if it were my choice, would I do it? Having had considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.”

For years people have been saying that 343 was going rampant that 100,000 years alone is too much for an AI to handle. For years Frankie and Bungie has been hinting that we might be the ignorant ones in the situation and that 343 may be speaking of a story we never heard. I now know that story.

> Why are you so interested in the Didact? Is he proving to be a difficulty to humans once again? Astonishing. I will not tell you about the Didact, not yet.
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> “You and I are brothers in many ways . . . not least in that we faced the Didact before, and face him now, and perhaps ever after. This is combat eternal, enmity unslaked, unified by only one thing: our love for the elusive Lifeshaper. Without her, humans would have been extinguished many times over. Both I and the Didact love her to this day.
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> “Some say she is dead, that she died on Earth. But that is demonstrably untrue.
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> “One of you almost certainly carries Vinnevra and Riser’s old spirits within. Only the Lifeshaper can find them and coax my friends back to life. And after a hundred thousand years of exploration and study . . .
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> “I know where to find her.”

> “I sometimes wonder wheter the Didact could have succeeded at a much smaller cost. I learned the folly of opposing him personally, and his brilliance was unsurpassed - except perhaps by her own.”
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> He never got the chance to fully execute his proposal. The council saw to that. But if something were to go wrong with one of the Halos, if our tools were ever turned against us…
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> “…long plans, indeed.”

Now The Didact was never said to be alive therefore nobody should jump to conclusions though 343 (a fragment of Chakas) states that The Didact has plans in case the rings were ever used Against the forerunners (And probably misused in general) which he states as long plans. The Librarian in the context give is implied to be alive in a Gea not in physical form as you can clearly tell if you actually read that without forcing your own thoughts.

Now Halo 4 has to take place in 2556 since cortana will be 7, The Return Happens in 2559 with the Humans finding a monitor which we can now saw was actually chakas (which i am still in awe about). So ONI is asking about the Didact AFTER halo 4 and AFTER Onyx as had further study.

> “Greetings, humans, and welcome to Installation 04! Ignore prior warnings, and please continue. I have disabled defensive systems to allow your approach, but you must not exit your ship once you have arrived at the designated landing center. This ring contains significant dangers, and even with your assumed legacy, I must verify the presence and pitch of your geas before allowing full access. We have much to discuss, humans.”
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> “I have been away far too long. You have been away far too long.”

So there It is confirmed chief does have a Geas along with another hint with 343 being a fragment. We have seen this before, 343 goes on and assumes that since chief (i i guess the other humans) have a Geas that it is already active since he is on the ring and trying to activate it.

I already have a notion on where the Didact activated the array Though we should look at some other elements of this theory.

The Master chief has been called lucky and that is his defining “Trait” as a spartan. He has been lucky to be in the right place at the right time and to be so well armed. the lack of this luck is what kills the other spartans.

John has been lucky from the start, When it came down to slots Halsey ended up using coin tossing from time to time in a way of opting the candidate out (old dogs for old men reference) That infamous coin toss was what got john in the project. John Being on the PoA is what lead to the events of the trilogy, John being lucky to have a Geas is what didn’t get the ship destroyed, John being lucky there was a longsword left got them off halo. John’s entire life revolves of how un-statistically lucky he has been against all odds.

The Didact does not believe in miracles though he accepts them.

you then have His relationship With also and later cortana. Halsey seems to have a motherly love for john and it is returned in favor. While the relationship between him and cortana seems to be a little more than that. How is this at all relevant you ask?

> I see very clearly how much the Librarian has shaped humanity since the end of the first human-Forerunner war.
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> Whenever you look inward and see an ideal female . . . whether it be goddess, anima, mother, sister, or lover . . .
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> For a brief, barely sensible instant, you will see the face and feel the spirit of the Librarian.

You could argue that every women is the librarian in a sense but I will be bold and state that our best know bets are Halsey and Anders. Since Halowars has not been touched at all canon wise We have to go with Halsey who was transferred to installation 03 at the end of halo 3. Chakas only says he knows where to find the librarian AFTER he Hacks into the ship and access its databanks. I have no idea where Halsey is in that year but i am sure that with the information acquired and vast knowledge, chakas would be able to find out easy.

So what of the Didact? What of the Librarian?

They both died taking the sins of the forerunners with them But as the saga is proving " You are your thoughts". The Didact is already dead yet he lives on through Bornstellar which will then die and pass his torch on in some form. “The Didact” and Chakas have a far better relationship now so i assume that The Didact passed himself on into the last incarnation of humanity as it is constantly stated in the novels the races are very well genetically related, As we see with the Forerunner- human pairs at the end of Primordium controlling installation 07.

> THE DIDACT WAS far from done with me, and I was far from done with the horrors of the wheel. It was the Didact, finally, who betrayed us all. He did it gently, but even so, it brought pain.

Confirming that Chakas indeed had something to do with the firing of the array and by Chakas I mean 343 which goes back to the original statements and my other thread.

I re-hash all of this information in hopes of you forming a picture and being able to foretell what i am about to say. I play games though i haven’t enjoyed this one as much.

Something will happen in halo 4 I am not writing this off as a fact other than something happens that makes Primordium relevant. It would be a massive change for a halo game to take years later from the first but maybe that is part of the universe growing up?

In my conjecture I will suggest that Chief has the Warrior spirit of the Didact within him. In Halo 4 the Gea gets extracted and the Didact lives again. Though who are we to assume that this is during the trilogy? Didact has shown to be Responsible and calculating. Humans are not yet a threat worth comparing to the primordial (I will get to later) so What if this is the After math of the trilogy?

> This is the answer, the Lord of Admirals said, suddenly rising from his silence to share the Didact’s emotion—but judging it from our coldly lifeless state.
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> No immunity and no cure. There is only struggle, or succumb. Either way, the Primordial will have its due. We have met our creators, they have given us the answers we sought—and that is our curse.

Humans are becoming arrogant and power hungry once more. they seek to control the halo rings and abuse their powers. What if After the Trilogy is over our next goal is to fight the Didact himself? humanity’s older Brother amongst the Forerunners? After the Precursors are Handled The Didact wishes to stop the humans from controlling the halo rings an possibly using them on lifeforms other than the flood (Elites). The Forerunners are still in the Galaxy so an activate could very well threaten them.

Again, Conjecture. But I think my points have been acknowledged

I agree with much that you say but I wish to post my thoughts and see what you think. My thoughts are that master chief doesn’t have Didact and he still may or may not be alive. But that he has a Gei that is more ancient and different from all the others. Also that I think Halsey had the Gei for the Librarian and when she split herself and made Cortana. That some of the Librarian is in her. But when it connected with the ring it may have been changed in some way that could be good or bad. Last is when you are playing halo 3 you start to see flash backs of Cortana. But when you start to get closer to getting her, you see that she is going rampant slowly.(which you never saw before)

She wasn’t going rampant in halo 3 and technically every clone of halsey brain should/would have a Gei.

Quote: “Since Halowars has not been touched at all canon wise We have to go with Halsey who was transferred to installation 03”

I don’t remember anything saying Halsey was moved to installation 03, though I haven’t read Glasslands yet. I don’t care about spoilers, but can you explain what the deal is?

It’s in Glasslands. She is moved to an ONI research station in orbit around installation 03.

Wait, about The Return - I don’t recall it being explicit that the humans found a monitor, and that it was Chakas. Where did you get that? The motion comic depicts those inspection cylinders that are in Glasslands, and there’s a sketch of a monitor on a piece of paper, but I don’t know that it means they found one.

But I was wondering of there was some of the Didact in Chief and some of the Librarian in Cortana (courtesy of Halsey). It would be interesting.

> It’s in Glasslands. She is moved to an ONI research station in orbit around installation 03.

OK, thanks. I still need to read it… ugh.

yes, yes. this could explain John’s “luck”. i’ve tortured my brain wondering about that.

That, sir, was a brilliant theory. I, too, post theories of my own here, but none as complex as that. Great job. :slight_smile:

I have one question: It seems that the Didact seems to be posing as a threat. From the UNSC’s concern in Primordium to Guilty Spark’s last terminal.

“And without the Librarian there to temper his rage, why, these “Reclaimers” might just prefer the Flood.”

Why would the Didact be an enemy? Maybe some new information in the last Forerunner book about it? The new trilogy seems to be setting up the Precursors as some insane new enemy, but the Didact seems to be a threat, too. What do you think, Deva Path?

Was I the only who was saddened when they learnt Chakas was being ‘downloaded’ into a monitor construct? (343 guilty spark)

Cortana (Halsey) carrying the Librarians geas and the Chief the Didact’s would also fit to 343I mentioning that the relationship between the two (Cortana & Chief) is an important part of what H4 is about.

> Was I the only who was saddened when they learnt Chakas was being ‘downloaded’ into a monitor construct? (343 guilty spark)

Considering the alternative was “he dies”, yeah.

> It’s in Glasslands. She is moved to an ONI research station in orbit around installation 03.

Well it doesn’t clearly state that, but most people assume. :stuck_out_tongue:

> > It’s in Glasslands. She is moved to an ONI research station in orbit around installation 03.
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> Well it doesn’t clearly state that, but most people assume. :stuck_out_tongue:

If i am wrong then correct me but i am pretty sure it was stated in the novel.

Still waiting for some kind of evidence that

a) a monitor was found on Kholo
b) it was Chakas

I’m not saying that you can’t make it fit, and that it wouldn’t be interesting, but here (and elsewhere) you state it as fact. Based on what?

> Still waiting for some kind of evidence that
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> I’m not saying that you can’t make it fit, and that it wouldn’t be interesting, but here (and elsewhere) you state it as fact. Based on what?

Common sense and deductive logic. I hate how you honestly need every little thing confirmed which honestly rarely happens.

The Return happens in 2559, an Elite finds papers with a monitor on them and then investigates further.

Primordium opens up with ONI saying the monitor has been damaged and Covenant tampering has been detected, therefore.

The Elite(s) get a hold of Chakas, he tells them exactly what they don’t want to hear so they try destroying him. It makes no sense for 343 to make a build up in the story and then have it be a completely random and unrelated event to primordium. they even said the story would be explained later and look what we have now.

Ugh… unfortunately, I lost all of this and had to re-type it. If I’m a bit frustrated and don’t elaborate on all points fully, point it out and I’ll clarify.

> Common sense and deductive logic.

I’ll show you that it takes more than that - including assumption.

> I hate you

Aw, Deva I’m hurt! I don’t hate you - true, you can be a jerk, and don’t seem to like being asked to insult your infinite wisdom with things such as “explanation”, but I don’t hate you! That would be silly!

> you honestly need every little thing confirmed which honestly rarely happens.

This is an epistemological problem. We obviously can’t all run around, saying whatever we want, and not being bothered to explain or verify it. Fact and fiction, opinion and fact would all be taken equally. Nobody could know anything. Obviously, this cannot be - it’s fundamentally at odds with human experience. We’re not talking about something that’s a widely-accepted fact (and you’re found arguing against those, e.g. the origin of Boren’s, which is still canonically held as “fictitious”). It’s perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence. If you can’t back up what you say, don’t bother saying it.

> The Return happens in 2559, an Elite finds papers with a monitor on them and then investigates further.

Yes; this is combined from the novella and from the motion comic (I re-watched it, btw). However, it’s worth noting at this point that the only reason Shipmaster knows theres a monitor here is because the humans have already found it (evidenced by the drawing) and that monitor is not at all indicated to still be present on Kholos. Primordium takes place on a human ship, and ends with Chakas stealing it.

> Primordium opens up with ONI saying the monitor has been damaged and Covenant tampering has been detected, therefore.

Clarification - the beginning of Primordium does indicate this fragment is severely damaged, and that a Covenant language stream is detected, indicating prior contact with Covenant. You’re assuming the Covenant caused the damage.

However, also take note that the contact between the Covenant and this monitor occurred before the Science Team started the analysis (it couldn’t have happened after, or it wouldn’t be in evidence in Primordium). So what Covenant entity got ahold of Chakas? How could it possibly have been Shipmaster?

> The Elite(s) get a hold of Chakas, he tells them exactly what they don’t want to hear so they try destroying him.

Again, before the Science Team gets ahold of him? Did they leave him down a hole where the humans later found him and then another Elite stumbles onto the humans who found him? What?

> It makes no sense for 343 to make a build up in the story and then have it be a completely random and unrelated event to primordium. they even said the story would be explained later and look what we have now.

I’d like to see that (mention that the story would be explained later). Link? Besides that, just because it doesn’t go like you seem to think it goes, doesn’t mean it’s not impotant and connected. It could be another shield installation - remember those metal cylinders? Like the one that inspects Halsey’s blood in Glasslands?

> > Was I the only who was saddened when they learnt Chakas was being ‘downloaded’ into a monitor construct? (343 guilty spark)
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I was saddened, too. Also because we learn of the true history of Guilty Spark.

Vacuum, Is it a typo when the primordial says " In a hundred and one thousand centuries" in primordium?