‘Reason to why Chief is deemed as AWOL. In Hunt the Truth, ONI did not want to send in Spartans to Meridian. During this time, Chief was investigating Argent Moon. He gets knocked out and has a vision of Cortana. Cortana says that Meridian is next. The reclamation is beginning. Chief, going against orders, goes to Meridian to assist in the possible evacuation or to counter the Promethean/ Covenant threat. ONI sees this as a prime way to frame the Spartan II and to further promote their Spartan IVs. Chief is deemed AWOL and Halo 5 begins. Everything tied in.’
This actually all does make sense… well Im not saying its exactly right but it seems that way, good post though 
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> ‘Reason to why Chief is deemed as AWOL. In Hunt the Truth, ONI did not want to send in Spartans to Meridian. During this time, Chief was investigating Argent Moon. He gets knocked out and has a vision of Cortana. Cortana says that Meridian is next. The reclamation is beginning. Chief, going against orders, goes to Meridian to assist in the possible evacuation or to counter the Promethean/ Covenant threat. ONI sees this as a prime way to frame the Spartan II and to further promote their Spartan IVs. Chief is deemed AWOL and Halo 5 begins. Everything tied in.’
Why does ONI want to promote IVs?
Are they in total control of the IVs?
This looks like the next level of 343 silliness like what they did with Halsey being seen as super evil. They want fans annoying each other because that will keep the conversation going on longer.
Halo 6 Spartan War.
The II and III vs the IVs.
Blue team is still Navy, while Spartan-IV’s are ONI -> Osiris is ONI. HTT S2 “Fero” is on an op to figure out what is destroying cities. The UNSC after failing to protect the Otter Colonies may be trying to cover their -Yoinks!- by getting the S-II’s in to figure out what is going on.
Clash of the priorities.
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> ‘Reason to why Chief is deemed as AWOL. In Hunt the Truth, ONI did not want to send in Spartans to Meridian. During this time, Chief was investigating Argent Moon. He gets knocked out and has a vision of Cortana. Cortana says that Meridian is next. The reclamation is beginning. Chief, going against orders, goes to Meridian to assist in the possible evacuation or to counter the Promethean/ Covenant threat. ONI sees this as a prime way to frame the Spartan II and to further promote their Spartan IVs. Chief is deemed AWOL and Halo 5 begins. Everything tied in.’
I find it a bit farfetched.
The attacks on human colonies are clearly not human in origin. How the hell would you even frame this on Spartan IIs, known as the saviors of humanity.
‘‘Master Chief went to Meridian to save everyone’s butts and uh…IT’S BAD, OUR SPARTAN IVs are BETTER. Nevermind we created the Spartan IIs in the first place…’’
Chief isn’t going AWOL because of ‘‘jealousy’’ or because he would ‘‘fall out of favor from ONI’’. That’s absolutely out of character. ONI has got nothing on him to realistically justify his arrest. Besides, ONI wouldn’t be as petty as to instrumentalize this event just to promote a somewhat insignificant program in the greater scheme of things. ONI sees things in a bigger portrait. If Chief goes AWOL, he will do so regardless of what ONI thinks, and because he has a higher reason for doing so.
Also, we still have no coherent explanation as to why ONI seems so intent on forcefully retiring the Spartan IIs who are by far their best soldiers. They’re still functional. These soldiers have no intent of revealing the truth of their existence (child soldiers, created to fight human rebellion, yadiyadiyada, you know the story…), and never went full HAM agaisn’t ONI. So why should they fear the Spartan IIs?
My theory is that Osman might be willing to remove the IIs because of say…Personal reasons. She might hate the IIs and Halsey because of what they mean to her. She was a dropout of the program (hence possibly having an inferiority complex) and she hates Halsey for making her go through the pain and suffering of the program.
The Spartan IIs represent what she could’ve become, but did not become. She might be jealous of them, and hate everything about them because she did not become part of them.
But then again, it’s a theory. Would Osman, as intelligent as she is, really do all of this for petty personal reasons? I’m not sure. There’s also the rumors that she’s the puppet of Parangosky, the ex-leader of ONI, and who knows what are her motives.
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> Blue team is still Navy, while Spartan-IV’s are ONI -> Osiris is ONI. HTT S2 “Fero” is on an op to figure out what is destroying cities. The UNSC after failing to protect the Otter Colonies may be trying to cover their -Yoinks!- by getting the S-II’s in to figure out what is going on.
>
> Clash of the priorities.
Spartan IVs are Spartan, not ONI. The IVs answer to the Spartan branch.
I think Chief does go against orders to go to Meridian, but I don’t think ONI uses it as some excuse to eliminate the IIs. That doesn’t really make sense. He’s declared AWOL because he ignored orders and is acting independently after the Argent Moon mission.
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> > 2533274793947658;4:
> > Blue team is still Navy, while Spartan-IV’s are ONI -> Osiris is ONI. HTT S2 “Fero” is on an op to figure out what is destroying cities. The UNSC after failing to protect the Otter Colonies may be trying to cover their -Yoinks!- by getting the S-II’s in to figure out what is going on.
> >
> > Clash of the priorities.
>
>
> Spartan IVs are Spartan, not ONI. The IVs answer to the Spartan branch.
>
> I think Chief does go against orders to go to Meridian, but I don’t think ONI uses it as some excuse to eliminate the IIs. That doesn’t really make sense. He’s declared AWOL because he ignored orders and is acting independently after the Argent Moon mission.
TBF, I can see why OP would think that. Especially looking back at the opening scene in 4. It does seem ONI wants to replace Chief, and with ONI operatives in the fold like Locke, they atleast have some hand in the Spartan branch.
Plus correct me if I’m wrong but didnt they frame Chief in the first season of HtT? Or was that Sapien sunrise?
Interesting theory but I don’t think ONI wants to frame Master Cheif for the Gaudian events.
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> > 2533274872459107;1:
> > ‘Reason to why Chief is deemed as AWOL. In Hunt the Truth, ONI did not want to send in Spartans to Meridian. During this time, Chief was investigating Argent Moon. He gets knocked out and has a vision of Cortana. Cortana says that Meridian is next. The reclamation is beginning. Chief, going against orders, goes to Meridian to assist in the possible evacuation or to counter the Promethean/ Covenant threat. ONI sees this as a prime way to frame the Spartan II and to further promote their Spartan IVs. Chief is deemed AWOL and Halo 5 begins. Everything tied in.’
>
>
> Why does ONI want to promote IVs?
> Are they in total control of the IVs?
>
> This looks like the next level of 343 silliness like what they did with Halsey being seen as super evil. They want fans annoying each other because that will keep the conversation going on longer.
>
> Halo 6 Spartan War.
> The II and III vs the IVs.
I’m not sure why people keep saying 343i makes Halsey look evil… She was a grey area character from the beginning…
She created Spartans for the purpose of fighting rebel humans… Human’s who were rebelling because they were being opresses by UNSC… She kidnapped children, crippled some, and killed others with her experiments.
the only reason the Spartan program looks like a good idea is because the covenant came out of nowhere and starting dominating.
ONI doesn’t want to promote Spartan IV’s the UNSC top brass does and Earth politicians do. Why? because elite grounds forces have a well documented history of resentment of the Spartan II because they get all the credit despite a ton of contribution from regular personnel. The SpartanIV program is an opportunity to give the glory to regular enlisted solders.
This plot line has existed since Fall of Reach… Nothing to do with 343i
People need to stop putting dots together and saying a theory is massive spoilers.
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> > > 2533274872459107;1:
> > > ‘Reason to why Chief is deemed as AWOL. In Hunt the Truth, ONI did not want to send in Spartans to Meridian. During this time, Chief was investigating Argent Moon. He gets knocked out and has a vision of Cortana. Cortana says that Meridian is next. The reclamation is beginning. Chief, going against orders, goes to Meridian to assist in the possible evacuation or to counter the Promethean/ Covenant threat. ONI sees this as a prime way to frame the Spartan II and to further promote their Spartan IVs. Chief is deemed AWOL and Halo 5 begins. Everything tied in.’
> >
> >
> > Why does ONI want to promote IVs?
> > Are they in total control of the IVs?
> >
> > This looks like the next level of 343 silliness like what they did with Halsey being seen as super evil. They want fans annoying each other because that will keep the conversation going on longer.
> >
> > Halo 6 Spartan War.
> > The II and III vs the IVs.
>
>
> I’m not sure why people keep saying 343i makes Halsey look evil… She was a grey area character from the beginning…
>
> She created Spartans for the purpose of fighting rebel humans… Human’s who were rebelling because they were being opresses by UNSC… She kidnapped children, crippled some, and killed others with her experiments.
>
> the only reason the Spartan program looks like a good idea is because the covenant came out of nowhere and starting dominating.
And this is an example of the silliness we’ve experienced when 343 took over and want to continue with the Spartans, apparently?
Now i will provide an example that will continue this silliness to show how this “Spartan War” may look like if it is, in fact, true.
Halsey was given a task to do, i repeat, Halsey was given a task to do. Halsey is not a high ranking military officer that has the ability to pull all sort of resources on her own. So why is she the one getting the blame for all of this?
This back and forth will create an endless loop of conversation that will keep people interested.
> ONI doesn’t want to promote Spartan IV’s the UNSC top brass does and Earth politicians do. Why? because elite grounds forces have a well documented history of resentment of the Spartan II because they get all the credit despite a ton of contribution from regular personnel. The SpartanIV program is an opportunity to give the glory to regular enlisted solders.
>
> This plot line has existed since Fall of Reach… Nothing to do with 343i
So the SIV are both elite ground forces and regular enlisted soldiers.
uuummmmm…some stuff there doesnt connect.
So regular soldiers are now ok with elite soldiers taking all the credit because the few that get turned may be one of their own as opposed to kids?
Why are people so against Halsey (in the Halo universe, not the fans)? Especially the Spartan IVs.
This actually sounds somewhat plausible, not saying it is I actually doubt it. But you never know, October 27 is just a month away
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> > > 2533274793947658;4:
> > > Blue team is still Navy, while Spartan-IV’s are ONI -> Osiris is ONI. HTT S2 “Fero” is on an op to figure out what is destroying cities. The UNSC after failing to protect the Otter Colonies may be trying to cover their -Yoinks!- by getting the S-II’s in to figure out what is going on.
> > >
> > > Clash of the priorities.
> >
> >
> > Spartan IVs are Spartan, not ONI. The IVs answer to the Spartan branch.
> >
> > I think Chief does go against orders to go to Meridian, but I don’t think ONI uses it as some excuse to eliminate the IIs. That doesn’t really make sense. He’s declared AWOL because he ignored orders and is acting independently after the Argent Moon mission.
>
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> TBF, I can see why OP would think that. Especially looking back at the opening scene in 4. It does seem ONI wants to replace Chief, and with ONI operatives in the fold like Locke, they atleast have some hand in the Spartan branch.
>
> Plus correct me if I’m wrong but didnt they frame Chief in the first season of HtT? Or was that Sapien sunrise?
When a planned Sapien Sunrise attack would have revealed that the UEG neglected to provide advanced aid to the colony, they didn’t immediately try to stop the reports that Chief was involved, covering their behinds in a sense. But they stepped forward when ONI saw an opportunity to stop Ben and clear the Chief.
If ONI was trying to eliminate Blue Team, there are easier ways to do it.
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> Why are people so against Halsey (in the Halo universe, not the fans)? Especially the Spartan IVs.
The Spartan IIs were created by kidnapping and cloning 6 year old children. Things that are morally questionable and illegal.
It’s put on Halsey because ONI made her their scapegoat, trying to cover up the fact that they authorized everything she did. Normal people also don’t know the reasons she did it, to save humanity from destroying itself with an immiment civil war, or how much she actually did care for her children.
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> > > > 2533274872459107;1:
> > > > ‘Reason to why Chief is deemed as AWOL. In Hunt the Truth, ONI did not want to send in Spartans to Meridian. During this time, Chief was investigating Argent Moon. He gets knocked out and has a vision of Cortana. Cortana says that Meridian is next. The reclamation is beginning. Chief, going against orders, goes to Meridian to assist in the possible evacuation or to counter the Promethean/ Covenant threat. ONI sees this as a prime way to frame the Spartan II and to further promote their Spartan IVs. Chief is deemed AWOL and Halo 5 begins. Everything tied in.’
> > >
> > >
> > > Why does ONI want to promote IVs?
> > > Are they in total control of the IVs?
> > >
> > > This looks like the next level of 343 silliness like what they did with Halsey being seen as super evil. They want fans annoying each other because that will keep the conversation going on longer.
> > >
> > > Halo 6 Spartan War.
> > > The II and III vs the IVs.
> >
> >
> > I’m not sure why people keep saying 343i makes Halsey look evil… She was a grey area character from the beginning…
> >
> > She created Spartans for the purpose of fighting rebel humans… Human’s who were rebelling because they were being opresses by UNSC… She kidnapped children, crippled some, and killed others with her experiments.
> >
> > the only reason the Spartan program looks like a good idea is because the covenant came out of nowhere and starting dominating.
>
>
> And this is an example of the silliness we’ve experienced when 343 took over and want to continue with the Spartans, apparently?
> Now i will provide an example that will continue this silliness to show how this “Spartan War” may look like if it is, in fact, true.
>
> Halsey was given a task to do, i repeat, Halsey was given a task to do. Halsey is not a high ranking military officer that has the ability to pull all sort of resources on her own. So why is she the one getting the blame for all of this?
>
> This back and forth will create an endless loop of conversation that will keep people interested.
>
>
>
>
> > ONI doesn’t want to promote Spartan IV’s the UNSC top brass does and Earth politicians do. Why? because elite grounds forces have a well documented history of resentment of the Spartan II because they get all the credit despite a ton of contribution from regular personnel. The SpartanIV program is an opportunity to give the glory to regular enlisted solders.
> >
> > This plot line has existed since Fall of Reach… Nothing to do with 343i
>
>
> So the SIV are both elite ground forces and regular enlisted soldiers.
> uuummmmm…some stuff there doesnt connect.
>
> So regular soldiers are now ok with elite soldiers taking all the credit because the few that get turned may be one of their own as opposed to kids?
Smh, every Spartan IV was once a regular enlisted soldier… The excelled and became special forces. They excelled again and VOLUNTEERED for the Spartan IV program…
so, while the Human-Coventant war was going on, the war propoganda marginalized the contribution of regular and elite forces… These regular and elite forces, who over the last decade or so have since excelled and became SpartanIVs, remember being marginalized…
again this plot line began with Fall of Reach, when UNSC brass tried to murder John 117, in order to kill the Spartan program, and refocus funding on enhancing their regular forces… But you keep implying that 343i made it up.
presumably, the “regular soldiers” are ok with it because they can too aspire to be Spartan IVs… There’s no disconnect, just misinformed vitriol towards 343i.
as far as Halsey being given a task to do, you have to remember there were a ton of politics at play… There were politicians and military officials every step of the way who didnt appreciate how much freedom she was given to run this top secret program. she constantly pulled rank on actual ranked officials. And many felt like she stepped on their toes to get where she was. She even deleted one generals AI and hacked is personnel file to get him reassigned and out of her way. Once the war was over, and they had a platform to do so, these people didn’t hesitate to throw her under the bus… Most of the people in the Halo universe who hate Halsey do so because their leadership only gives them half of the story… That’s how ONI and the UNSC operate.
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> Smh, every Spartan IV was once a regular enlisted soldier… The excelled and became special forces. They excelled again and VOLUNTEERED for the Spartan IV program…
Locke was an ONI “tracker assassin”. Not enlisted soldier, not special forces.
Vale was a diplomat. Not enlisted soldier, not special forces.
Tanaka was an Army engineer. not special forces.
Thorne was regular Army. Not special forces.
Madsen was a Marine. Not special forces. BONUS! Got into the Spartan program cause his dad and grandad pulled strings.
Grant was Navy. Not special forces.
So, yeah, you need update that info on what the IVs are.
> so, while the Human-Coventant war was going on, the war propoganda marginalized the contribution of regular and elite forces… These regular and elite forces, who over the last decade or so have since excelled and became SpartanIVs, remember being marginalized…
>
> again this plot line began with Fall of Reach, when UNSC brass tried to murder John 117, in order to kill the Spartan program, and refocus funding on enhancing their regular forces…
You talking about Ackerson?
> But you keep implying that 343i made it up.
>
> presumably, the “regular soldiers” are ok with it because they can too aspire to be Spartan IVs… There’s no disconnect, just misinformed vitriol towards 343i.
??? Im discussing the info here where ONI apparently wants the IVs to fight the IIs.
Which make little sense since no one is actually making IIs or IIIs anymore and they are all working under the Spartan branch.
You are tying this to Ackerson because that makes sense on your head and im supposed to agree because you said so… for some reason.
These are all theories being thrown out. No one has to agree or force other people to accept any view other people throw out.
If the battle of the IIs and IVs is real im suggesting this being some marketing thing to get people talking just like 343 CLEARLY SAID themselves to have done with Halsey when he was turned into a super villain. This is how it appears to me.
If you think this is the ghost or Ackerson coming back to haunt the IIs… ok.
> as far as Halsey being given a task to do, you have to remember there were a ton of politics at play… There were politicians and military officials every step of the way who didnt appreciate how much freedom she was given to run this top secret program. she constantly pulled rank on actual ranked officials. And many felt like she stepped on their toes to get where she was. She even deleted one generals AI and hacked is personnel file to get him reassigned and out of her way. Once the war was over, and they had a platform to do so, these people didn’t hesitate to throw her under the bus… Most of the people in the Halo universe who hate Halsey do so because their leadership only gives them half of the story… That’s how ONI and the UNSC operate.
Right but, again, she was not a high ranking military officer. The reason why this story makes no sense is that.
Halsey didnt create this program alone, diverted resources alone, etc, etc.
This is the equivalent of a teacher introducing a new curriculum that ends up being used.
Yeah, the teacher was involved so she was part of the problem but she wasnt alone in putting a curriculum into play.
The teacher can be the face of the problem but other people should also be taking the hit.
I can’t openly say that it will happen EXACTLY as you say it will, but judging by the fact the above has morse code we have yet to decode and a lovely big green Spartan II running through Meridian… I’d like to think your quite close.
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> > 2676692992818466;16:
> > Smh, every Spartan IV was once a regular enlisted soldier… The excelled and became special forces. They excelled again and VOLUNTEERED for the Spartan IV program…
>
>
> Locke was an ONI “tracker assassin”. Not enlisted soldier, not special forces.
> Vale was a diplomat. Not enlisted soldier, not special forces.
> Tanaka was an Army engineer. not special forces.
> Thorne was regular Army. Not special forces.
> Madsen was a Marine. Not special forces. BONUS! Got into the Spartan program cause his dad and grandad pulled strings.
> Grant was Navy. Not special forces.
>
> So, yeah, you need update that info on what the IVs are.
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>
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> > so, while the Human-Coventant war was going on, the war propoganda marginalized the contribution of regular and elite forces… These regular and elite forces, who over the last decade or so have since excelled and became SpartanIVs, remember being marginalized…
> >
> > again this plot line began with Fall of Reach, when UNSC brass tried to murder John 117, in order to kill the Spartan program, and refocus funding on enhancing their regular forces…
>
>
> You talking about Ackerson?
>
>
>
>
> > But you keep implying that 343i made it up.
> >
> > presumably, the “regular soldiers” are ok with it because they can too aspire to be Spartan IVs… There’s no disconnect, just misinformed vitriol towards 343i.
>
>
> ??? Im discussing the info here where ONI apparently wants the IVs to fight the IIs.
> Which make little sense since no one is actually making IIs or IIIs anymore and they are all working under the Spartan branch.
>
> You are tying this to Ackerson because that makes sense on your head and im supposed to agree because you said so… for some reason.
>
> These are all theories being thrown out. No one has to agree or force other people to accept any view other people throw out.
>
> If the battle of the IIs and IVs is real im suggesting this being some marketing thing to get people talking just like 343 CLEARLY SAID themselves to have done with Halsey when he was turned into a super villain. This is how it appears to me.
>
> If you think this is the ghost or Ackerson coming back to haunt the IIs… ok.
>
>
>
>
> > as far as Halsey being given a task to do, you have to remember there were a ton of politics at play… There were politicians and military officials every step of the way who didnt appreciate how much freedom she was given to run this top secret program. she constantly pulled rank on actual ranked officials. And many felt like she stepped on their toes to get where she was. She even deleted one generals AI and hacked is personnel file to get him reassigned and out of her way. Once the war was over, and they had a platform to do so, these people didn’t hesitate to throw her under the bus… Most of the people in the Halo universe who hate Halsey do so because their leadership only gives them half of the story… That’s how ONI and the UNSC operate.
>
>
> Right but, again, she was not a high ranking military officer. The reason why this story makes no sense is that.
> Halsey didnt create this program alone, diverted resources alone, etc, etc.
> This is the equivalent of a teacher introducing a new curriculum that ends up being used.
> Yeah, the teacher was involved so she was part of the problem but she wasnt alone in putting a curriculum into play.
> The teacher can be the face of the problem but other people should also be taking the hit.
That’s your opinion, but this is the scenario placed on us by Bungie, not 343i…
as far as no one else taking a hit, they are in political power, so they are putting all of the blame on someone else because they can… It happens all the time… She’s a scape goat, and the people that she crossed over the years now happen to be in total control over the government and military… Burned bridges…
the Spartan IVs resentment for Halsey is a carry over from much of the military brass resenting Halsey, and that sentiment rolling down hill…
im not tying this just to Akerson… If your read any of the first 3 novels, you’ll see proof of the regular enlisted resenting the Spartan’s, particularly their leadership… ODST’s aren’t shy about it at all…
I don’t agree that ONI wants IIs to fight IVs. I’m just saying that the idea that 343i created the idea that people don’t like Halsey is false… As is the notion that their aren’t elements of the UNSC who would rather the Spartan IIs were all gone.
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> ‘Reason to why Chief is deemed as AWOL. In Hunt the Truth, ONI did not want to send in Spartans to Meridian. During this time, Chief was investigating Argent Moon. He gets knocked out and has a vision of Cortana. Cortana says that Meridian is next. The reclamation is beginning. Chief, going against orders, goes to Meridian to assist in the possible evacuation or to counter the Promethean/ Covenant threat. ONI sees this as a prime way to frame the Spartan II and to further promote their Spartan IVs. Chief is deemed AWOL and Halo 5 begins. Everything tied in.’
From what we know, I think you’re very likely right and Blue Team goes AWOL to assist Meridian. I’m not so sure ONI uses it as an opportunity to frame the Chief or eliminate the Spartan-IIs though. Though ONI appeared to temporarily set him up in Hunt the Truth, it was ultimately to publicly discredit Ben and other “conspiracy theorists”, and in the end the Chief and other Spartan IIs came out looking just as heroic as ever, just as ONI intended.
We already know that in the time leading up to Halo 5, Blue Team has been going on mission after mission and taking little-to-no rest in-between. The loss of Cortana clearly weighed heavily on the Chief, and even Fred shows concern that he isn’t okay. If the Chief reports back to the Infinity that he saw a vision of Cortana and she gave him a vague warning about Meridian being “next”, I think there’s a good chance Blue Team would be recalled from the field and the Chief would be subject to a psych evaluation. My guess is that the Chief, placing faith in the vision of Cortana, redeploys Blue Team to Meridian without clearing it with the UNSC. They’re subsequently declared AWOL, and not having any idea where they went or why, Fireteam Osiris is sent to investigate.
The bonus Halo 2 Anniversary cutscenes indicate that Locke isn’t aware why the Chief is off-grid, only that “he’s gone AWOL and the UNSC wants him back”. He further states “I’m here to bring him home”, and that he intends to find out why the Chief left. I don’t think Osiris is hunting down Blue Team with malicious intent, but genuinely trying to find them and determine why they’re off-mission. Even after the Guardians are revealed, it may not be immediately apparent that’s why Blue Team went AWOL.
One point of clarification though, it wasn’t Meridian that ONI didn’t want to send Spartans to, but Conrad’s Point. That’s the one site that was under the control of the New Colonial Alliance instead of the UNSC, and Agent Sankar was sent there as FERO to assess the situation since Spartans would be too high-profile.