Martin O’Donnell and Joseph Staten

How many of you think that the possibility that Marty and Joe have returned to Halo for Infinite is be great? Please leave your thoughts below.
(my info is based off of YouTubers and Marty’s tweets and is IN NO WAY A FACT but rather a Halo fan’s hopes and dreams)

Marty is busy doing his own thing with a different game studio which means its highly unlikely he will return. Joe is working for Microsoft across various projects (including writing Shadow of Intent), but I doubt he will join the project this late into development. Personally I think both of them have had their fill of Halo for a lifetime, and having them return wouldn’t immediately remedy any of the current issues with modern Halo.

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> Marty is busy doing his own thing with a different game studio which means its highly unlikely he will return. Joe is working for Microsoft across various projects (including writing Shadow of Intent), but I doubt he will join the project this late into development. Personally I think both of them have had their fill of Halo for a lifetime, and having them return wouldn’t immediately remedy any of the current issues with modern Halo.

Bringing them in would be purely for salvage at this point. The game has been underway for awhile so if they brought them in for an advisory role would concern me they 343 is worried for some reason.

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> Marty is busy doing his own thing with a different game studio which means its highly unlikely he will return. Joe is working for Microsoft across various projects (including writing Shadow of Intent), but I doubt he will join the project this late into development. Personally I think both of them have had their fill of Halo for a lifetime, and having them return wouldn’t immediately remedy any of the current issues with modern Halo.

I heard this from Halo YouTubers and one of Marty’s tweets, and honestly Halo’s music just hasn’t been the same without him :’( As for Staten, they could’ve already had him on the team for Infinite and kept if very hush hush, but I don’t know.

I just want to KNOW that Halo Infinite will be HALO again and even though the engine demo trailer gave me some hope that is still no where near enough to convince me due to the previous two Halos (after fooling fans twice with Halo it would be hard to gain trust from the fans until Infinite is in their hands and it IS Halo again since after Halo 4 they got MAJOR backlash for the new art style, but then they when even farther with Halo 5 instead of listening to the fans AND made good gameplay, but a very incomplete game with a BAD campaign which was just about the polar opposite of Halo 4 and on top of that alienated the fans by taking the new art style that obviously was hated by most Halo fans EVEN FARTHER) so I am hoping E3 will be a GREAT reveal for Halo Infinite and that Halo will be Halo again (I miss Marty because he knew what music needed to be made and for what scene for every Halo and his work was part of what made Halo and so far the new music artists just haven’t really been living up to Marty).

P.S. I would like to preorder Halo Infinite now 343i and PLEASE don’t release it to certain regions before others, just release it for everyone at the same time PLEASE (also please keep your track right now with the whole putting the Halo back in Halo thing going).

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> > Marty is busy doing his own thing with a different game studio which means its highly unlikely he will return. Joe is working for Microsoft across various projects (including writing Shadow of Intent), but I doubt he will join the project this late into development. Personally I think both of them have had their fill of Halo for a lifetime, and having them return wouldn’t immediately remedy any of the current issues with modern Halo.
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> Bringing them in would be purely for salvage at this point. The game has been underway for awhile so if they brought them in for an advisory role would concern me they 343 is worried for some reason.

Who said bringing them in at this point? They could’ve already been in but they are keeping it top secret.

I doubt he’s coming back for infinite but who knows, anything is possible.

If if he doesn’t come back they should definitely have Tom Salta for infinite. He’s the guy who composed spartan assault and spartan strike which has some really good “halo” sounding songs and also composed both halo CE and halo 2 anniversary soundtrack. If he’s behind the soundtrack I think he’s the next best thing since is unlikely Marty will return

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> I doubt he’s coming back for infinite but who knows, anything is possible.
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> If if he doesn’t come back they should definitely have Tom Salta for infinite. He’s the guy who composed spartan assault and spartan strike which has some really good “halo” sounding songs and also composed both halo CE and halo 2 anniversary soundtrack. If he’s behind the soundtrack I think he’s the next best thing since is unlikely Marty will return

Tom Salta has done some excellent work so I think that if Marty hasn’t been brought on than I hope that Tom has since his work with HCEA and H2A is amazingly good (I haven’t heard HSA and HSS soundtracks because I haven’t played those games) so I agree.

I would very much like to see Marty O’Donnell and Steve Vai on board for Halo Infinite. However, he has his own studio now, as stated here and in other threads. Never say never though.

I think Marty is unlikely, at least for Infinite. He’s currently at a different studio right now. Who knows about future games though, that’d be awesome if he came back. Joseph is a more likely choice because he actually works at Microsoft, I kinda doubt he’s a main writer though. His job at Microsoft is to help all their teams so it wouldn’t be crazy to think he has something to do with Infinite.

not sure about joe, hes busy with crackdown 3

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> I think Marty is unlikely, at least for Infinite. He’s currently at a different studio right now. Who knows about future games though, that’d be awesome if he came back. Joseph is a more likely choice because he actually works at Microsoft, I kinda doubt he’s a main writer though. His job at Microsoft is to help all their teams so it wouldn’t be crazy to think he has something to do with Infinite.

At least from what I understand from his tweets he seems like he would like to come back to Halo (as long as he isn’t treated like he was the last time of course).

I hope that Joe will consider voicing another Grunt, but Frankie says he won’t be a major part of the series unless they manage to persuade him. Marty’s busy with his own studio, but he has left it up in the air. Apparently he’s never been asked to return, so here’s to wishful thinking. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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> > > Marty is busy doing his own thing with a different game studio which means its highly unlikely he will return. Joe is working for Microsoft across various projects (including writing Shadow of Intent), but I doubt he will join the project this late into development. Personally I think both of them have had their fill of Halo for a lifetime, and having them return wouldn’t immediately remedy any of the current issues with modern Halo.
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> > Bringing them in would be purely for salvage at this point. The game has been underway for awhile so if they brought them in for an advisory role would concern me they 343 is worried for some reason.
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> Who said bringing them in at this point? They could’ve already been in but they are keeping it top secret.

That’s a fair point… my first reaction was thinking we’ve known about this game for awhile and why wouldn’t they show off the talent but then realized they really haven’t told us anything.

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> > I think Marty is unlikely, at least for Infinite. He’s currently at a different studio right now. Who knows about future games though, that’d be awesome if he came back. Joseph is a more likely choice because he actually works at Microsoft, I kinda doubt he’s a main writer though. His job at Microsoft is to help all their teams so it wouldn’t be crazy to think he has something to do with Infinite.
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> At least from what I understand from his tweets he seems like he would like to come back to Halo (as long as he isn’t treated like he was the last time of course).

What tweets are you referring to?

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> I doubt he’s coming back for infinite but who knows, anything is possible.
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> If if he doesn’t come back they should definitely have Tom Salta for infinite. He’s the guy who composed spartan assault and spartan strike which has some really good “halo” sounding songs and also composed both halo CE and halo 2 anniversary soundtrack. If he’s behind the soundtrack I think he’s the next best thing since is unlikely Marty will return

Agreed, Tom’s done some great work. I always appreciate how his (and the others’, of course) CEA and H2A soundtracks feel like an evolution of the originals, rather than something radical and unfamiliar for the sake of creating change without reason.

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> > I doubt he’s coming back for infinite but who knows, anything is possible.
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> > If if he doesn’t come back they should definitely have Tom Salta for infinite. He’s the guy who composed spartan assault and spartan strike which has some really good “halo” sounding songs and also composed both halo CE and halo 2 anniversary soundtrack. If he’s behind the soundtrack I think he’s the next best thing since is unlikely Marty will return
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> Agreed, Tom’s done some great work. I always appreciate how his (and the others’, of course) CEA and H2A soundtracks feel like an evolution of the originals, rather than something radical and unfamiliar for the sake of creating change without reason.

Exactly. He knows how to make new but familiar sounding tracks

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> > I doubt he’s coming back for infinite but who knows, anything is possible.
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> > If if he doesn’t come back they should definitely have Tom Salta for infinite. He’s the guy who composed spartan assault and spartan strike which has some really good “halo” sounding songs and also composed both halo CE and halo 2 anniversary soundtrack. If he’s behind the soundtrack I think he’s the next best thing since is unlikely Marty will return
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> Agreed, Tom’s done some great work. I always appreciate how his (and the others’, of course) CEA and H2A soundtracks feel like an evolution of the originals, rather than something radical and unfamiliar for the sake of creating change without reason.

See, I feel that the soundtracks for both are the worst part of the remasters. The music is different enough that it no longer hits the same beats or invokes the same feelings when playing through a level. I routinely switch over to the classic version of Metropolis so I can hear the classic version of Earth City because the new one is just a mess.

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> > > I think Marty is unlikely, at least for Infinite. He’s currently at a different studio right now. Who knows about future games though, that’d be awesome if he came back. Joseph is a more likely choice because he actually works at Microsoft, I kinda doubt he’s a main writer though. His job at Microsoft is to help all their teams so it wouldn’t be crazy to think he has something to do with Infinite.
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> > At least from what I understand from his tweets he seems like he would like to come back to Halo (as long as he isn’t treated like he was the last time of course).
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> What tweets are you referring to?

Tweet oneTweet twoTweet threeAnd the most important one Tweet four Here you go.He has loads of tweets, but these take the cake.

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> > > I doubt he’s coming back for infinite but who knows, anything is possible.
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> > > If if he doesn’t come back they should definitely have Tom Salta for infinite. He’s the guy who composed spartan assault and spartan strike which has some really good “halo” sounding songs and also composed both halo CE and halo 2 anniversary soundtrack. If he’s behind the soundtrack I think he’s the next best thing since is unlikely Marty will return
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> > Agreed, Tom’s done some great work. I always appreciate how his (and the others’, of course) CEA and H2A soundtracks feel like an evolution of the originals, rather than something radical and unfamiliar for the sake of creating change without reason.
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> See, I feel that the soundtracks for both are the worst part of the remasters. The music is different enough that it no longer hits the same beats or invokes the same feelings when playing through a level. I routinely switch over to the classic version of Metropolis so I can hear the classic version of Earth City because the new one is just a mess.

Tom’s Anniversary soundtracks are great as they sound similar to their original counterparts, while seeming like a new song at the same time (and I think we can all agree that Tom would be better than bringing the H4 or H5 guys back, but especially the H4 guy). Also the atom Salta if not Marty thing is at risk right now as when I was looking through Marty’s tweets I noticed that Paul Lipson is on another project and as we know Tom and Paul are the dynamic duo like Marty and Michael, but who knows.

I love Joseph Staten’s work on the original trilogy. I think Contact Harvest is a brilliant book. I can’t remember what his role was on Reach exactly, but I’m sure he would have done a terrific job. However, I think his job is done. He and the others set up the Halo universe and gave us the best games in existence so far, as far as I’m concerned. If he wanted to come back to Halo, I’d be thrilled, but look at Seasons 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones. That’s what happens when people continue to work on a project they should have already handed over. Bungie passed Halo onto 343i. It’s in their hands now.

That said, no one’s music in the Anniversary games, Halo 4, Halo 5, the Spartan games or Halo Wars games have come close to Marty O’Donnell’s. I reckon the best job after Marty was done by Stephen Rippy in 2007, but even that was only about half as good as Marty’s work. Halo 4 sounded great but very un-Halo. Halo 5’s music really didn’t do much for me at all. The Trials absolutely butchered a classic in my opinion, and the rest was utterly forgettable. HW2 didn’t come close to the OST of HW1. The Spartan games’ music is forgettable and never quite matched the gameplay. And finally, the Anniversary music, despite being almost exactly the same as O’Donnell’s work, still sounds completely off for some reason. Maybe we need Marty back, just for the music. He doesn’t need to join 343i.