Marines...

Anybody else feel like all they come up against is marines? I use Atriox majority of the time which him alone it pretty good against infantry but the amount of marines that i actually have to face is ridiculous, it very much feels like facing warthogs again on halo wars 1 except this time i don’t have an answer to it. Snipers feel very weak against them compared to the damage jackals did on the previous game.

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> Anybody else feel like all they come up against is marines? I use Atriox majority of the time which him alone it pretty good against infantry but the amount of marines that i actually have to face is ridiculous, it very much feels like facing warthogs again on halo wars 1 except this time i don’t have an answer to it. Snipers feel very weak against them compared to the damage jackals did on the previous game.

Yeah with there build time and how much damage they do when fully upgraded it is a bit ridiculous and what makes it bad is all that is needed is to sprinkle in a few cyclops and tanks are worthless against them they just build to fast and out of main base is kinda ridiculous in my eyes to you should have to put up a building to get a unit that can be that strong

As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…

Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.

As far as “Marine Rushes” go…

Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.

There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.

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> As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
>
> Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
>
> As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
>
> Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
>
> There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.

Lol if a real marine rush attacks it was planned from the beginning of game and grunts are not better I don’t know where you get your info but 2 marines will kill 3 grunt squads everytime

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> > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> >
> > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> >
> > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> >
> > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> >
> > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
>
> Lol if a real marine rush attacks it was planned from the beginning of game and grunts are not better I don’t know where you get your info but 2 marines will kill 3 grunt squads everytime

Let me say it again…

“I Am not going to explain my strategies”…
“Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing”…
“Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.”

I spent 70:00 Yesterday with a friend testing this stuff, and Grunts DO BEAT marines… IF you know what you are doing.

To give you a little hint: Scouting is everything.

I am not going to do the testing FOR YOU. You figure it out yourself, or keep loosing to marine rushes… Its up to you :stuck_out_tongue:

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> Anybody else feel like all they come up against is marines? I use Atriox majority of the time which him alone it pretty good against infantry but the amount of marines that i actually have to face is ridiculous, it very much feels like facing warthogs again on halo wars 1 except this time i don’t have an answer to it. Snipers feel very weak against them compared to the damage jackals did on the previous game.

As an Atriox main I can possibly help you out a bit.

Start by upgrading your harvesters ASAP, also spend your leader points upgrading Atriox’s Fortification passive. This will help you in getting cheaper bases and cheaper turrets.
With your upgraded harvesters, just start pumping out grunts like there is no tomorrow, you want to be able to out number the marines (which you will if you do this correctly). Since second bases are cheap and upgrading them to a stronghold is inexpensive I would suggest getting a second one up and running as soon as possible, you need that economy. While this is happening make sure to scout and see what he’s doing. If it looks like he’s getting ready for a rush, build a raid camp and pump out jump pack brutes and suicide grunts (rangers aren’t worth it). If they’re turtling up start advancing to hunters/locust/blisterbacks. You’ll have a great grunt backbone to deal with hornets or other threats while your specialists wreck their base.

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> > Anybody else feel like all they come up against is marines? I use Atriox majority of the time which him alone it pretty good against infantry but the amount of marines that i actually have to face is ridiculous, it very much feels like facing warthogs again on halo wars 1 except this time i don’t have an answer to it. Snipers feel very weak against them compared to the damage jackals did on the previous game.
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> As an Atriox main I can possibly help you out a bit.
>
> Start by upgrading your harvesters ASAP, also spend your leader points upgrading Atriox’s Fortification passive. This will help you in getting cheaper bases and cheaper turrets.
> With your upgraded harvesters, just start pumping out grunts like there is no tomorrow, you want to be able to out number the marines (which you will if you do this correctly). Since second bases are cheap and upgrading them to a stronghold is inexpensive I would suggest getting a second one up and running as soon as possible, you need that economy. While this is happening make sure to scout and see what he’s doing. If it looks like he’s getting ready for a rush, build a raid camp and pump out jump pack brutes and suicide grunts (rangers aren’t worth it). If they’re turtling up start advancing to hunters/locust/blisterbacks. You’ll have a great grunt backbone to deal with hornets or other threats while your specialists wreck their base.

Thank you for that. I have found I’m good at starting and getting strong pretty quick financially and defensively on the base front( basically doing what you said) but i haven’t found the right unit yet to deal with the mass of marines turning up! but yeah i will give what you said a try.

Fully upgraded grunts seem to beat fully upgraded marines pop for pop.

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> > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > >
> > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > >
> > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > >
> > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > >
> > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
> >
> > Lol if a real marine rush attacks it was planned from the beginning of game and grunts are not better I don’t know where you get your info but 2 marines will kill 3 grunt squads everytime
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> Let me say it again…
>
> “I Am not going to explain my strategies”…
> “Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing”…
> “Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.”
>
> I spent 70:00 Yesterday with a friend testing this stuff, and Grunts DO BEAT marines… IF you know what you are doing.
>
> To give you a little hint: Scouting is everything.
>
> I am not going to do the testing FOR YOU. You figure it out yourself, or keep loosing to marine rushes… Its up to you :stuck_out_tongue:

Don’t usually lose to them and I completely agree you should not do testing for me am just curious what test you did that supposedly makes grunts better than marines

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> > > Anybody else feel like all they come up against is marines? I use Atriox majority of the time which him alone it pretty good against infantry but the amount of marines that i actually have to face is ridiculous, it very much feels like facing warthogs again on halo wars 1 except this time i don’t have an answer to it. Snipers feel very weak against them compared to the damage jackals did on the previous game.
> >
> > As an Atriox main I can possibly help you out a bit.
> >
> > Start by upgrading your harvesters ASAP, also spend your leader points upgrading Atriox’s Fortification passive. This will help you in getting cheaper bases and cheaper turrets.
> > With your upgraded harvesters, just start pumping out grunts like there is no tomorrow, you want to be able to out number the marines (which you will if you do this correctly). Since second bases are cheap and upgrading them to a stronghold is inexpensive I would suggest getting a second one up and running as soon as possible, you need that economy. While this is happening make sure to scout and see what he’s doing. If it looks like he’s getting ready for a rush, build a raid camp and pump out jump pack brutes and suicide grunts (rangers aren’t worth it). If they’re turtling up start advancing to hunters/locust/blisterbacks. You’ll have a great grunt backbone to deal with hornets or other threats while your specialists wreck their base.
>
> Thank you for that. I have found I’m good at starting and getting strong pretty quick financially and defensively on the base front( basically doing what you said) but i haven’t found the right unit yet to deal with the mass of marines turning up! but yeah i will give what you said a try.

If you can tech to blisterbacks they’ll slaughter them. If you can’t however brutes/suicide grunts with mass grunts is your best bet till they buff rangers.

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> > > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > > >
> > > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > > >
> > > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > > >
> > > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > > >
> > > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
>
> Don’t usually lose to them and I completely agree you should not do testing for me am just curious what test you did that supposedly makes grunts better than marines

Sorry, but if i tell the whole world what i know, then everyone instantly get better than me :stuck_out_tongue:

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> > > > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > > > >
> > > > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > > > >
> > > > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
> >
> > Don’t usually lose to them and I completely agree you should not do testing for me am just curious what test you did that supposedly makes grunts better than marines
>
> Sorry, but if i tell the whole world what i know, then everyone instantly get better than me :stuck_out_tongue:

Good point now I am going to have to waist hours of my life tonight thanks for that

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> > > > > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
>
> Good point now I am going to have to waist hours of my life tonight thanks for that

No one is forcing you, you get to choose. If you cant have fun while taking a few losses, thats your problem.

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> > > > > > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
> >
> > Good point now I am going to have to waist hours of my life tonight thanks for that
>
> No one is forcing you, you get to choose. If you cant have fun while taking a few losses, thats your problem.

I have no problem with that but to run test to figure out how grunts are better will just be me and a buddy in a private match

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> > > > > > > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
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> I have no problem with that but to run test to figure out how grunts are better will just be me and a buddy in a private match

The game needs a better practice mode.

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> > > > > > > > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
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> > I have no problem with that but to run test to figure out how grunts are better will just be me and a buddy in a private match
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> The game needs a better practice mode.

Agree 100 percent

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> > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > >
> > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > >
> > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > >
> > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > >
> > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
> >
> > Lol if a real marine rush attacks it was planned from the beginning of game and grunts are not better I don’t know where you get your info but 2 marines will kill 3 grunt squads everytime
>
> Let me say it again…
>
> “I Am not going to explain my strategies”…
> “Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing”…
> “Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.”
>
> I spent 70:00 Yesterday with a friend testing this stuff, and Grunts DO BEAT marines… IF you know what you are doing.
>
> To give you a little hint: Scouting is everything.
>
> I am not going to do the testing FOR YOU. You figure it out yourself, or keep loosing to marine rushes… Its up to you :stuck_out_tongue:

LOL that’s very funny. You think you had some sort of epiphany with grunts, somehow thinking it’s intellectual property so you can’t share it?

Please tell me how many games are you winning as Banished? Oh that’s right, you’re a UNSC player!

So easy to say that when Banished have no anti infantry at all. Only thing grunts can do is use mines, then you can try to lure the marines (if you can scape their grenades or snipers).

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> > > > As someone who loves using Marines, i am not going to explain my strategies with them. But i will tell you…
> > > >
> > > > Grunt Squads are are the superior unit in “Grunt Squad” VS “Marine” Combat. Grunt Squads can do a lot that Marines cant, but you have to know what you are doing.
> > > >
> > > > As far as “Marine Rushes” go…
> > > >
> > > > Not EVERYONE is trying to Marine rush you. Some people start the game with NO intention to rush, but then they scout you, and notice you arent ready for it, so they SWITCH to a marine rush.
> > > >
> > > > There are solutions for your problems, but you have to study and find them.
>
> LOL that’s very funny. You think you had some sort of epiphany with grunts, somehow thinking it’s intellectual property so you can’t share it?
>
> Please tell me how many games are you winning as Banished? Oh that’s right, you’re a UNSC player!
>
> So easy to say that when Banished have no anti infantry at all. Only thing grunts can do is use mines, then you can try to lure the marines (if you can scape their grenades or snipers).

hehehehehhehehe. Not sure if i should entertain you or not, but if i am going to post, it should be helpful, so i guess i will.

  1. If i have knowledge that my opponent doesnt, why would i share it? It just gets them closer to beating me.

  2. I am Cutter most of the time, so i have do deal with a leader power that doesnt function at all :stuck_out_tongue: (coincidentally, it has to do with Marines, too)

  3. banished have no anti-anything. Almost every unit looses to it’s UNSC counterpart. But every unit has some special ability that turns the fight COMPLETELY 1-sided if used correctly. Sometimes it’s range, sometimes it’s damage, sometimes it’s trickery, ect.

A SMALL hint about the grunts… The mines are camo’d. There is a special mechanic that comes into play with that. have fun testing and figuring it out.

I feel like all I come against is Anders and her Sentinels. It is annoying

The Sentines Movement speed is the most annoying thing… my best counter: Just push your own economy and do what the enemy does: Updated Banshees against Sentinels are nice to watch… and their production speed is faster… so you can just overroll them. I love to watch Anders going down with Air Units… In Germany we keep saying: The ghosts which I had called …