March 31st marks the dark ages of Halo

Many Halo communities are about to come to a complete halt, and most of them will die.

ForgeHub? Xforgery? With online file browsing freezing these websites will cease to exist. Stat tracking sites like Halo Tracker? Meta Halo? With no API keys these sites will freeze. What of the custom content community? What of indie Halo communities out there? 343 is essentially forcing us to go to their inferior stats and subpar forums for custom content.

With Bungie officially leaving Halo and 343 taking over the reigns, it makes me wonder who we’re leaving in control of the franchise. Not only has 343 infested Reach with the most controversial title update to date, but they’ve been poor stewards thus far and they’ve left most of the community in the dark.

Despite my personal opinions of what Bungie has done with Reach, the game was in much better hands when they were in charge. We’re losing literally 90% of the features that we’ve become accustomed to. And then 343 expects us to shell out money for a new Halo product when we’ve seen nothing other than regurgitated content and their word to go by?

Reach isn’t the only thing that’s falling; Halo is about to go into a dark, dangerous hole, and I don’t think Halo 4 is going to bring it out.

- love HWM sarge.

So what has always made Halo stand out above its competitors (which is variety and customisation) will be taken away and leaving the franchise and its players to submit to a very specific playstyle with no hope of redemption?

Hmm, I suppose listing Halo as my favourite gaming franchise has gotten a bit old. Battlefield 3 and Skyrim have really pulled me in, maybe I should start loving them even more. Gears of War 3 is also fun and doing a better job at being Halo, even if the shotguns are overpowered I can really get into the franchise.

It might be a way to force consolidation of the Halo market onto their website, instead of allowing satellite communities to exsist.

The slightest gap in any of those services with an announcment of no plans to continue and those satellite sites lose massive traffic and guess where they come?

> It might be a way to force consolidation of the Halo market onto their website, instead of allowing satellite communities to exsist.
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> The slightest gap in any of those services with an announcment of no plans to continue and those satellite sites lose massive traffic and guess where they come?

I was thinking the same thing.

They figured they make this the big hub for halo.

I mean that’s what waypoint was build for in the first place.

Excuse 343, Bungie had how many years to get their stats/files perfect? And 343 only just recently started hosting stats. I’m sure they’re not going to leave everyone out in the cold, but they have a lot on their hands. They still manage Reach, and every other bit of Halo fiction, as well as having a pretty huge title with a lot of hype behind it. We can’t expect everything to be perfect right off the bat.

A few things.

Its hard to believe that 343 wont pick up filesharing and rendering in some way shape or form. They arent stupid enough to piss off an entire fanbase

From how I read the bulletin, you could keep current content on Bungie, but they wouldnt be taking on new stuff. So the community wont die entirely

Again, unless 343i is the stupidest game company in the world, they wont let the biggest feature in a franchise become useless all of a sudden

Im personally expecting a massive update to waypoint in the next month to fill in the missing services, but thats just me

I retract my previous comment

I just read that file share is coming to waypoint, but not until the summer. so there will be a gap. However the same bulletin said that filesares would be expanded to 24 slots in game free of charge. So you keep in game slots, but its covering a gap in service

I hope there’s an explanation for why branch communities are being shut out.

> Excuse 343, Bungie had how many years to get their stats/files perfect? And 343 only just recently started hosting stats. I’m sure they’re not going to leave everyone out in the cold, but they have a lot on their hands. They still manage Reach, and every other bit of Halo fiction, as well as having a pretty huge title with a lot of hype behind it. We can’t expect everything to be perfect right off the bat.

343’s succession of Bungie as caretakers of the Halo franchise wasn’t an overnight decision right after Reach launched.

No…
You’ll just have to be patient, something so many people seem to lack.

> Excuse 343, Bungie had how many years to get their stats/files perfect? And 343 only just recently started hosting stats. I’m sure they’re not going to leave everyone out in the cold, but they have a lot on their hands. They still manage Reach, and every other bit of Halo fiction, as well as having a pretty huge title with a lot of hype behind it. We can’t expect everything to be perfect right off the bat.

lol. 343 is unprepared for this, they should of started working on these before, they had a lot of time before to plan for this. There is no excuse really. Not mentioning closing out community sites just to get all traffic here, smart.

You also make is seem like 343 has a ton of stuff to maintain. I’m sure Bungie had just as much when ODST/Reach were in the making. ODST/Reach being a keyword.

> > Excuse 343, Bungie had how many years to get their stats/files perfect? And 343 only just recently started hosting stats. I’m sure they’re not going to leave everyone out in the cold, but they have a lot on their hands. They still manage Reach, and every other bit of Halo fiction, as well as having a pretty huge title with a lot of hype behind it. We can’t expect everything to be perfect right off the bat.
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> lol. 343 is unprepared for this, they should of started working on these before, they had a lot of time before to plan for this. There is no excuse really. Not mentioning closing out community sites just to get all traffic here, smart.
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> You also make is seem like 343 has a ton of stuff to maintain. I’m sure Bungie had just as much when ODST/Reach were in the making. ODST/Reach being a keyword.

And Bungie had YEARS of experience behind them. They didn’t always have the -Yoink- set up they had at the end of their tenure with Halo.

Everyone’s gotta start somewhere.

As far as I’m concerned, if they don’t offer some sort of true skill rating for Halo, I may as well be playing Call of Duty cause every ounce of competition seems to be getting squeezed out of Halo. Examples, Halo Reach not having actual ranked playlists, matchmaking being, and I quote, “broken” and also the elimination of the leveling system present in Halo 3 and the substitution of some “EXP” system which uncannily resembles the pathetic ranking system of the least competitive/team oriented multiplayer game out at the moment, CoD.

> No…
> You’ll just have to be patient, something so many people seem to lack.

Agreed, people just expect the worst and start complaining for no reason.
Won’t even wait until the change is done and any new features are revealed.

OP, I really can’t agree with you. Leaving the game without support post-release and offering the bare minimum of patches while trying to force DLC down our throats (Weekly DLC rant/update), this while offering a game that fails to meet the standard of other modern game s(dedicated servers?), narrowing features (theatre) and forcing us to pay for features even blatantly milked crap games like CoD gives away for Free (bungie “pro”), is something good? :open_mouth:

No, 343i will show the way and unite players under one site, one community, and probably offer more and better services then Bungie ever did. Why have to spread out to 10s of different sites just to discuss Halo or upload custom maps?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have it all on one site, where a majority of the community is so that they can try, judge and offer ideas and help?
The only way we’ll ever get a community is to unite the players, having MLG, forging, race, grifball and other “unique” things on different sites just helps to dissolve the community.

I have a solution to all of reach problems.

I understand that the main people at 343i are working on halo4.

So, you hire another team to solely work on reach, and nothing else, but reach. Gameplay, media, community. I would say 14 people should do it.

See there, i just boosted the economy by making jobs, since they have microsoft bucks they can afford to do that.

insert quote about how it is always darkest before the dawn

This is merely a transition and I would say any claims of this being the ‘darkest hours of Halo’ are widely exaggerated. There is a new Halo game coming out the end of the year. How can this possibly be the darkest hour?

Nay, I say it is time to rejoice for we shall eventually sup from the cup that is Halo 4.

It is disappointing to lose the features we’ve all grown accustomed to these past years, but I don’t see them going away permanently and I predict they will soon be back in a new avatar. Possibly in Halo 4.

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We don’t know the ins and outs of the situation. There may be a number of reasons that they can’t do it. It may be too closely tied to B.net. When Halo 4 comes around, they’ll likely incorporate fileshare from day one. People are so quick to assume the worst when they don’t know the facts. I’m just going to wait and see how things go.

> We don’t know the ins and outs of the situation. There may be a number of reasons that they can’t do it. It may be too closely tied to B.net. When Halo 4 comes around, they’ll likely incorporate fileshare from day one. People are so quick to assume the worst when they don’t know the facts. I’m just going to wait and see how things go.

Well then someone from 343i needs to be more forthcoming with their customers.

Plain and simple, give us the facts. Tell us what we need to hear, evidently this has alot of players up in arms. Address it then.

We live in the information age, have a meeting, hash it out, tell us about it. How -Yoinking!- hard is that.

Legally bungie had to turn over all of halo, fileshare/rendering included, if 343i doesnt know how to work it, sub contract someone from bungie to get it to work over here. How -Yoinking!- hard is that.

Or is it that they dont want to spend the effort on reach. Then say it, “we are no longer willing to put anymore effort into this game.”
That would be easier to swallow than be ignored on all fronts.
Microsoft has billions of dollars behind them, stop sticking up for corporate fat cats who are fleecing you.