Maps?

Let me start by saying i love halo 5. I think they did a great job with spartan abilities and mechanics in general. My only complaint is maps. I know some of you will defend them and say they are coming In a few weeks. But are they? I feel like this game seriously lacks maps and this up coming update seems to be forging and remixing maps we already have. I don’t forge but i appreciate and respect that a lot of fans do, but i don’t want 343 making forge maps, they should leave that for the fans I want to see them get creative and makes maps with a personality and theme. Truth and regret are similar but i get it (the prophets) blah blah, but for example remixing eden and empire by just changing the weapons and a few ramps seems lazy to me. Fathom, Plaza , Collesium, the rig i can live with and enjoy but make more orginal maps. Dont keep remixing maps we already have to compensate for the lack of maps. Again i’m not saying this in a pissed off manner, i think this game is great and it deserves some great non forged maps. leave the forge and the remixes to the fans to make.

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> Let me start by saying i love halo 5. I think they did a great job with spartan abilities and mechanics in general. My only complaint is maps. I know some of you will defend them and say they are coming In a few weeks. But are they? I feel like this game seriously lacks maps and this up coming update seems to be forging and remixing maps we already have. I don’t forge but i appreciate and respect that a lot of fans do, but i don’t want 343 making forge maps, they should leave that for the fans I want to see them get creative and makes maps with a personality and theme. Truth and regret are similar but i get it (the prophets) blah blah, but for example remixing eden and empire by just changing the weapons and a few ramps seems lazy to me. Fathom, Plaza , Collesium, the rig i can live with and enjoy but make more orginal maps. Dont keep remixing maps we already have to compensate for the lack of maps. Again i’m not saying this in a pissed off manner, i think this game is great and it deserves some great non forged maps. leave the forge and the remixes to the fans to make.

I think truth and regret both play completely different, and look different. How do we know these remixes wont be the same?

I love the game, but Recurve for BTB is atrocious and needs some things to change. It by far, the worst BTB map I have ever played on across all the Halo games. Everything about that map is just terrible. Its way too small. The lighting is horrendous And 1 tank on the map is aggravating to say the least. A hallmark of BTB is having lots of vehicles and well balanced lighting so there is no glare or shadows that people can hide in. All of the areas the tank can go need to be tripled in width. Sun needs to be set and noon. And lighting in the dark areas needs to be brighter. And multiple vehicles need to be added. If there is going to be a tank a wraith or Mantis needs to be at the opposite side of the tank. I can’t believe they were so slack in allowing that map as one of the first ones into BTB.

Well, the Forge maps that came with the game are pretty bad. Hopefully they’re coming up with more original ideas, the game is fun though.

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> I love the game, but Recurve for BTB is atrocious and needs some things to change. It by far, the worst BTB map I have ever played on across all the Halo games. Everything about that map is just terrible. Its way too small. The lighting is horrendous And 1 tank on the map is aggravating to say the least. A hallmark of BTB is having lots of vehicles and well balanced lighting so there is no glare or shadows that people can hide in. All of the areas the tank can go need to be tripled in width. Sun needs to be set and noon. And lighting in the dark areas needs to be brighter. And multiple vehicles need to be added. If there is going to be a tank a wraith or Mantis needs to be at the opposite side of the tank. I can’t believe they were so slack in allowing that map as one of the first ones into BTB.

yea I dont know why they didnt offset the tank with another vehicle. There is a spartan laser but the map is so small the team getting the tank could also get laser.

I agree the map quantity is a bit weak right now. Especially the recycled maps with different names. At least the new Warzone map is an officially new map. Excited to check that out since I like Warzone so much.

If 343 makes maps, it should be outside of forge in order to keep a variety of cool new maps coming to the game. Forge should be left to the community.

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> > Let me start by saying i love halo 5. I think they did a great job with spartan abilities and mechanics in general. My only complaint is maps. I know some of you will defend them and say they are coming In a few weeks. But are they? I feel like this game seriously lacks maps and this up coming update seems to be forging and remixing maps we already have. I don’t forge but i appreciate and respect that a lot of fans do, but i don’t want 343 making forge maps, they should leave that for the fans I want to see them get creative and makes maps with a personality and theme. Truth and regret are similar but i get it (the prophets) blah blah, but for example remixing eden and empire by just changing the weapons and a few ramps seems lazy to me. Fathom, Plaza , Collesium, the rig i can live with and enjoy but make more orginal maps. Dont keep remixing maps we already have to compensate for the lack of maps. Again i’m not saying this in a pissed off manner, i think this game is great and it deserves some great non forged maps. leave the forge and the remixes to the fans to make.
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> I think truth and regret both play completely different, and look different. How do we know these remixes wont be the same?

That is true. I completely agree with that and i did say i understand truth and regret regardless if they are remixes. but dont you want something completely new in future?

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> If 343 makes maps, it should be outside of forge in order to keep a variety of cool new maps coming to the game. Forge should be left to the community.

yes completely agree

People tend to forget that it doesn’t take a week to create a fully new map though.

I think the forge map are good but there is a lot of unseen maps in multiplayer and that is why there are the same few maps on rotation.

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> People tend to forget that it doesn’t take a week to create a fully new map though.

yes that is true. idk i just expected a little more for next gen maps. like truth looks sooo awesome. the detail and the theme of the prophet of truth is very cool. I want more detail in my maps. Some maps are so plain and small. Lockout had personality, ivory tower, beaver creek. they didnt remix them they just made a new map. I just hope some new ideas are coming.

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> I love the game, but Recurve for BTB is atrocious and needs some things to change. It by far, the worst BTB map I have ever played on across all the Halo games. Everything about that map is just terrible. Its way too small. The lighting is horrendous And 1 tank on the map is aggravating to say the least. A hallmark of BTB is having lots of vehicles and well balanced lighting so there is no glare or shadows that people can hide in. All of the areas the tank can go need to be tripled in width. Sun needs to be set and noon. And lighting in the dark areas needs to be brighter. And multiple vehicles need to be added. If there is going to be a tank a wraith or Mantis needs to be at the opposite side of the tank. I can’t believe they were so slack in allowing that map as one of the first ones into BTB.

Couldn’t agree more. It also doesn’t help that it’s the most frequent map to be cycled. It’s absolute garbage in every way don’t even want to start.

I agree. Arena maps kinda suck. They’re almost all gray and lack of color besides regret and truth. I love the big team battle maps, besides recurve.

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> I agree. Arena maps kinda suck. They’re almost all gray and lack of color besides regret and truth. I love the big team battle maps, besides recurve.

yes thank you. The btb i was also a little disappointed because of the forge. Idk it turns me off. Its very cool you can recreate maps but again leave to the fans. When they remade lockout in halo 3 it was so awesome and had a different theme. A forge version because of the lack of detail kinda makes it plain and boring.

I want to see some reach-styled maps, gritty textures. maybe even a map based vehicle like falcons or elephants. If they are going to remake any new maps I vote Highlands, It would be an excellent exploitation of the systems new features with the detailed skybox.

I agree with you that 343 needs to step up to the plate with more original maps, but that said, don’t sell forge short just because the first few efforts are let downs. Remember that the 4v4 forge maps were created quite a while ago, long before forge mode was even close to being complete. And the BTB maps were created by community forgers, whose skill-sets are obviously not all equal. None of these maps are particularly good in and of themselves. Their true purpose, to my way of thinking, was to give the community glimpses of the possibilities of the new forge, and the maps themselves don’t have to be great maps in order for me to see that the potential for great maps is huge.

it is funny because I loved the disc forge maps in the beta, and they ruined them on release, THEY ACTUALLY HAD AREAS OUT OF DANGER TO FREAKIN SPAWN, and now we are stuck with broken maps…

Definitely lacking maps. I like map ideas that are completely new and not a remix of old maps. Its good though to appreciate the iconic maps from previous Halo games.

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> I love the game, but Recurve for BTB is atrocious and needs some things to change. It by far, the worst BTB map I have ever played on across all the Halo games. Everything about that map is just terrible. Its way too small. The lighting is horrendous And 1 tank on the map is aggravating to say the least. A hallmark of BTB is having lots of vehicles and well balanced lighting so there is no glare or shadows that people can hide in. All of the areas the tank can go need to be tripled in width. Sun needs to be set and noon. And lighting in the dark areas needs to be brighter. And multiple vehicles need to be added. If there is going to be a tank a wraith or Mantis needs to be at the opposite side of the tank. I can’t believe they were so slack in allowing that map as one of the first ones into BTB.

Funny, this is actually my favorite BTB maps. It’s interesting how little opinions can be sometimes.