Mantises missing in Viking

I like the new remake of valhalla/ragnarok, it looks perfect. But mantis needs to be added in.

Also, i know it wasn’t in sandrap but i think Altar would be a good map to bring in the Scorpion.

Scorpion was in sand trap I thought? And yeh Valhalla used to at least have wraiths, there’s a lack of heavy vehicles on btb

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> Scorpion was in sand trap I thought? And yeh Valhalla used to at least have wraiths, there’s a lack of heavy vehicles on btb

That’s the thing with 343i. It’s like vehicles terrify them that they won’t even add the heavies. Valhalla had wraiths and Ragnarok had mantises. and we already have mantises in Entombed, and if not scorpions than add wraiths into Altar. They need to stop their phobia of heavy vehicles. they nerfed them to the point of almost uselessness and than still think they might be too strong in BTB. it’s like “wtf?”

They dont add vehicles because they dont want us completing the commendations for the vehicles unless we drop tons of money on req packs.

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> They dont add vehicles because they dont want us completing the commendations for the vehicles unless we drop tons of money on req packs.

Hell i have Scorpion and wraith maxed and i still think they should be added

Please, no Mantis on Viking. Those things ruined Ragnarok in Halo 4.

Yeh I don’t really like mantises , but tanks would work well, especially with all the anti vehicle weapons

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> Please, no Mantis on Viking. Those things ruined Ragnarok in Halo 4.

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> Yeh I don’t really like mantises , but tanks would work well, especially with all the anti vehicle weapons

really? i think they made it better. Banshee had too easy of a time and mantis said “-Yoink- you, i’m giving you a run for your money” besides they are incredibly weaker in Halo 5 while banshees are as buff as the ones in Halo reach with all that endless flipping like a dolphin at SeaWorld. So i see them not even being a problem at all

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> > Scorpion was in sand trap I thought? And yeh Valhalla used to at least have wraiths, there’s a lack of heavy vehicles on btb
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> That’s the thing with 343i. It’s like vehicles terrify them that they won’t even add the heavies. Valhalla had wraiths and Ragnarok had mantises. and we already have mantises in Entombed, and if not scorpions than add wraiths into Altar. They need to stop their phobia of heavy vehicles. they nerfed them to the point of almost uselessness and than still think they might be too strong in BTB. it’s like “wtf?”

I’m with you.

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> > > Scorpion was in sand trap I thought? And yeh Valhalla used to at least have wraiths, there’s a lack of heavy vehicles on btb
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> > That’s the thing with 343i. It’s like vehicles terrify them that they won’t even add the heavies. Valhalla had wraiths and Ragnarok had mantises. and we already have mantises in Entombed, and if not scorpions than add wraiths into Altar. They need to stop their phobia of heavy vehicles. they nerfed them to the point of almost uselessness and than still think they might be too strong in BTB. it’s like “wtf?”
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Thanks for agreeing

Technically the map is a Valhalla remake, not a Ragnarok remake. And there was no Mantis is H3 so it’s not really “missing”

Viking is a h3 valhalla remake, true. I made the choice not to put wraiths on it on my own and as well as all of the other maps recently added, 343 didn’t change them much at all after the testing the community did prior to matchmaking. It’s not some vandetta 343 has or anything like that.

I didn’t hear a single request for more vehicles so unfortunately they were not added. I will be making a Viking Heavies version and adding it to my file soon so that you guys can run it in your own custom games.

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> Technically the map is a Valhalla remake, not a Ragnarok remake. And there was no Mantis is H3 so it’s not really “missing”

than it’s missing a wraith. but in all fairness there is no difference. even in the wikis they say it. “It is implied that the War Games simulation is an exact remake of Valhalla, which took place on the Ark, yet Ragnarok is a location on Requiem.” so technically yes, we can and should have mantises on it.

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> They dont add vehicles because they dont want us completing the commendations for the vehicles unless we drop tons of money on req packs.

Or maybe they want to try and balance each teach better.

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> Viking is a h3 valhalla remake, true. I made the choice not to put wraiths on it on my own and as well as all of the other maps recently added, 343 didn’t touch them at all after the testing the community did prior to matchmaking.
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> I didn’t hear a single request for more vehicles so unfortunately they were not added. I will be making a Viking Heavies version and adding it to my file soon so that you guys can run it in your own custom games.

where do you go to beta test maps before they are published on Arena MM? i would love to test the maps and put incite before it comes out so they don’t miss anything. i would of caught that right away. that and there is no gungoose on the new Deadlock which is a bummer because no one will really get on a mongoose. 0 defense/offense capability means it’s less likely someone will get on it.

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> > They dont add vehicles because they dont want us completing the commendations for the vehicles unless we drop tons of money on req packs.
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> Or maybe they want to try and balance each teach better.

really? they nerfed the heavies to the point of almost no effectiveness but you thats still OP? i don’t see how that is in any way unbalanced. mantis and phaeton, the 2 hardest vehicles to get, are also said by a majority of the community to be the weakest vehicles. you “tear through it like tissue paper” - Saren

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> Viking is a h3 valhalla remake, true. I made the choice not to put wraiths on it on my own and as well as all of the other maps recently added, 343 didn’t change them much at all after the testing the community did prior to matchmaking. It’s not some vandetta 343 has or anything like that.
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> I didn’t hear a single request for more vehicles so unfortunately they were not added. I will be making a Viking Heavies version and adding it to my file soon so that you guys can run it in your own custom games.

First off, -Yoinking!- amazing job on that map. Secondly, i like it how it is honestly.

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> > Viking is a h3 valhalla remake, true. I made the choice not to put wraiths on it on my own and as well as all of the other maps recently added, 343 didn’t touch them at all after the testing the community did prior to matchmaking.
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> where do you go to beta test maps before they are published on Arena MM? i would love to test the maps and put incite before it comes out so they don’t miss anything. i would of caught that right away. that and there is no gungoose on the new Deadlock which is a bummer because no one will really get on a mongoose. 0 defense/offense capability means it’s less likely someone will get on it.

You can sign up for forgehub and involve yourself in the numerous testing lobbies advertised across the forums. There is also an abundance of maps people are always asking to be playtested or you can chose and playtest them on your own terms whenever you would like. Just don’t forget to leave feedback in the maps thread section or with the actual author.

The creator of Deadlock stated that one of the top two requests was for the gungoose to be removed.

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> > Viking is a h3 valhalla remake, true. I made the choice not to put wraiths on it on my own and as well as all of the other maps recently added, 343 didn’t change them much at all after the testing the community did prior to matchmaking. It’s not some vandetta 343 has or anything like that.
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> > I didn’t hear a single request for more vehicles so unfortunately they were not added. I will be making a Viking Heavies version and adding it to my file soon so that you guys can run it in your own custom games.
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> First off, -Yoinking!- amazing job on that map. Secondly, i like it how it is honestly.

Thanks buddy. :slight_smile:

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> > Viking is a h3 valhalla remake, true. I made the choice not to put wraiths on it on my own and as well as all of the other maps recently added, 343 didn’t change them much at all after the testing the community did prior to matchmaking. It’s not some vandetta 343 has or anything like that.
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> > I didn’t hear a single request for more vehicles so unfortunately they were not added. I will be making a Viking Heavies version and adding it to my file soon so that you guys can run it in your own custom games.
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> First off, -Yoinking!- amazing job on that map. Secondly, i like it how it is honestly.

it is pretty much exactly how Valhalla and Ragnarok looked like. So props on that. its the closes remake i have seen ever remade. is it to scale too?

But no we definitely need heavy vehicles. banshees are running too unopposed. and overall we need more heavies as this is big team battle. we need to see more mantis, more wraith, more scorpion, more phaeton. phaeton is even merely a legend in WZ itself as it is hardly ever seen at all. too many people either don’t have it or afraid to use it. We need to see more mantis coverage. and since mantis and phaeton are super weak, we should have them in and they will do fine.