It’s just pitiful how bad it is, considering its a ultra rare req, It can get boarded from the back and front, can be splattered by a wraith, two tank shots to kill, I mean c’mon really?
I sell mine for RP.
It is pretty weak when everyone can have tanks and such. Don’t use them in the turbo warzones. Too easy to counter.
I’ve had three ONI mantises.
All have been nearly insta killed.
- Was killed by a guy camping with a plasma pistol behind an ice pillar on stormbreak
- Was killed by the enemy team having 3 banshees (And the mantis’s rockets lock on for aircraft is pathetically short)
- A guy crashed into me with a banshee, survived my stomp attack and boarded me from the front.
I want to cry…
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> It’s just pitiful how bad it is, considering its a ultra rare req, It can get boarded from the back and front, can be splattered by a wraith, two tank shots to kill, I mean c’mon really?
uh doesn’t every standard vehicle die in 2 or less tank shots?
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I’ve died from one tank shot.
Had shields and no visible base armour damage.
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not sure how that happened. I just tested it in forge and a full health mantis can survive a tank shot even without shields.
Edit: The mantis got about a 25% armor buff in GOM so this must have happened before GOM was released.
I finished my kill commendation with it you should be able to do that too
Maybe just a little buff. Just make it so that the shield’s dony die so fast and bump up the health a bit
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> I finished my kill commendation with it you should be able to do that too
I have also completed it, but that doesn’t detract from the fact that the Mantis is still terribly weak. I’m thankful the Mantis got somewhat buffed in the last update, but it’s still a poor vehicle to use when you encounter a tank.
It does need more buff. Especially to that chain gun.
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> Maybe just a little buff. Just make it so that the shield’s dony die so fast and bump up the health a bit
But they already did last update.
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Lol looks like they didn’t do it enough
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so you want it to be able to take 3 tank shots? It already got a 25% health buff, that’s more than enough.
you know whats bad, I played a little mcc spartan ops, man the h4 mantis is really strong, taking down phantoms and banshees and when I load up h5 order a mantis, as soon as I come out, 3 banshees destroy me…
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No I just want it to be restored to its h4 version.
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> you know whats bad, I played a little mcc spartan ops, man the h4 mantis is really strong, taking down phantoms and banshees and when I load up h5 order a mantis, as soon as I come out, 3 banshees destroy me…
campaign and spartan ops mantis was more powerful than the multiplayer mantis.
Agreed. It is honestly the easiest vehicle in the game to counter. An issue with its weaponry is that it is incredibly short ranged - anything past short - mid range and anything that is not infantry will survive. The trouble is that when you get to those kind of ranges with the mantis, which again seems specialized for anti-infantry rather than anti-vehicle, it is way too easy to board. There are so many times I have spawned a mantis only to be destroyed after a single kill.
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I did it also. Still doesn’t excuse it for being crap and such high req level required
I don’t think the Mantis was ever a good multiplayer vehicle. It feels like it was solely made so you could feel like a -Yoink!- in Halo 4’s campaign. (Can’t say it didn’t work) Outside of campaign it just doesn’t feel like it has a solid combat role. Scorpions are already near-literal glass cannons on account of how easy boarding is in H5, and the Mantis is that but even easier to board, less armor AND less powerful weapons. I guess it’s faster and more agile, but clearly that advantage isn’t doing much.
If it weren’t for the fact that we just got the Hannibal Mantis, I’d suggest the Mantis be removed entirely. It’s just unnecessary. However, given that addition, I’d suggest it be given a two or three-stage boarding. As in you need to board it 2 or 3 times to bring it fully down. Boarding 1 places a grenade on leg1, boarding 2 on leg2, (perhaps once the first two boardings are completed, the mantis gets a speed nerf) and final boarding on the “head.” Since a stomp from the mantis can kill you as soon as you’re off it, this would encourage a team takedown, which I think makes for better gameplay anyways.