Using a Wraith, it used to be game over for Mantis AI by taking out them knees. Not anymore though, but ever since the update long ago, can a Mantis player still get splattered by a Wraith? Did they fix that, or will you simply just die from inside the Mantis, while your Mantis is still in Good condition?
Can I ask why it would be an issue if they changed that? I mean even a wraith cannon blast can easy take out a mantis if you hit. It makes no sense balance wise for a mantis to get splattered but that’s just me.
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> Can I ask why it would be an issue if they changed that? I mean even a wraith cannon blast can easy take out a mantis if you hit. It makes no sense balance wise for a mantis to get splattered but that’s just me.
Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> > > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> > I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
They need to stop focusing on making bosses as tanky as possible and start improving their AI. It should feel as though we’re fighting an actual, living, thinking being capable of reacting accordingly to our actions. With the way it is right now it feels more like we’re blasting away at a 25ft thick metal wall with automated turrets when we fight bosses.
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Agreed
It’s the same as infantry Bullet Sponge AI. Ever Vehicular boss feels like a Super Tank. The Banshee Raiders a flying Death Tanks. I’ve gotten a Ultra Banshee and been shot out by 1 banshee bomb from that his on WZ Arc lol. There’s no really method to take out a Mantis, other than shoot the -Yoink- out of it…
I’m still able to splatter mantis AI in firefight with the wraith, it’s just a little trickier now. You basically have to pin them against a wall and then thrust. I guess the geometry breaking automatically kills them.
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> > > > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> > > I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> > I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
So I shouldn’t be able to splatter Legendary Elite Primes in WZFF on the March on Stormbreak map? Pretty odd how AIs get all the advantages and players basically just have to brute force everything.
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> > > > > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> > > > I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> > > I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> > Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
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> So I shouldn’t be able to splatter Legendary Elite Primes in WZFF on the March on Stormbreak map? Pretty odd how AIs get all the advantages and players basically just have to brute force everything.
Well to me a boss should kind of have more advantages. It’s not really much of a boss if they die instantly lol. I’m not for bullet sponges either, I’m just saying they need to be a challenge but also not be kill able right from the get go.
You can still glitch AI Mantis bosses with a Wraith boost sandwiching them against a wall/steep incline. When you boost into the Armsmen and shove them against a wall/steep incline, they turn their legs to attempt to move away from you, interrupting their typical body pivot towards you to shoot. You can then alternate boosting and shooting until they drop. Worked in multiple Firefight rounds (as long as you can Req up to a Wraith by the time that round comes up).
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Use Void’s Tear on the Mantis and watch is sit there like a sad dejected puppy while you shoot it to death. Literally the easiest strong vehicle boss in the game.
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> > > > > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> > > > I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> > > I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> > Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
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> So I shouldn’t be able to splatter Legendary Elite Primes in WZFF on the March on Stormbreak map? Pretty odd how AIs get all the advantages and players basically just have to brute force everything.
Yes and you can because they are elites. Knights and hunters should not be able to be splattered.
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> > > > > > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> > > > > I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> > > > I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> > > Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
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> Yes and you can because they are elites. Knights and hunters should not be able to be splattered.
Oh I know I can, and I do, but this guys logic seems to be no boss should be splatterable
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> > > > > > > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> > > > > > I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> > > > > I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> > > > Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
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Yeah I didn’t notice the name, haha. Yeah I don’t think it’s about which boss should or shouldn’t be splatterable… however a vehicle should not be splatterable by a smaller vehicle imho.
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> > > > > > > Wraith shots take time to take out a Mantis AI. Before you could splatter it, but since you can’t anymore, I figured that translated player controlled Mantisses as well. So have you been in a Mantis recently and have been splattered by someone in a Wraith? Also can you be more specific on what you think I have an issue with.
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> > > > > > I didn’t say that you have an issue, what I said is “if” you’re having an issue with it then why? Cuz I’m not sure if you’re really saying that you have problems with the change. I also stopped playing warzone so I have no idea if a player controlled wraith can splatter a player controlled Mantis, I also never even knew you could do that to the A.I till now. But from my view it would make sense for balance reasons to not instantly destroy a heavy class vehicle by a simple splatter.
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> > > > > I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> > > > Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
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Wrong, maybe if you asked what my real logic is or even talked about it then you’d know. A boss shouldn’t be instantly killable, if splatter makes them so then they’re not a real A.I. Boss lol. I think a little class in A.I. Bosses 101 would help you out.
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> > > > > > I don’t really mind too much that they beefed up the AI Mantises a lot (though I’m going to miss splattering AI Mantis 4 points), but it has always erked me when a player could do that to a player controlled Mantis. I’ve been splattered out of my Tundra Mantis immediately after walking out the Fortress, by a Wraith. That was a long time ago, so I’m hoping that they fixed it just like they did with AI Mantisses. Yeah, it’s definitely ridiculous that it can happen.
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> > > > > Well the reason why they would do it for balance reasons is 1. You shouldn’t be able to kill an A.I. Boss right away, so splattering had to go if that did kill them instantly. I say the same for players, what is a Matisse req lvl? 6 or7? I think it’s dumb for something tat high to also be able to get destroyed instantly by a splatter when it costs so much. I’m fine with a player boarding you as it takes good placement on the attacker and bad Unsmart thinking on the mantis to let him get boarded when he should keep a good distance away from hiding spots and sit near team members who can cover them from being hijacked with a grenade. As for spawning a mantis at garage, is avoid that as people will crotch on it waiting for people to spawn a tank and such only for it to get destroyed immediately (why they need hijacking invulnerability for say 10 seconds to at least clear the spawn).
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> > > > So I shouldn’t be able to splatter Legendary Elite Primes in WZFF on the March on Stormbreak map? Pretty odd how AIs get all the advantages and players basically just have to brute force everything.
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> > > Yes and you can because they are elites. Knights and hunters should not be able to be splattered.
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> > Oh I know I can, and I do, but this guys logic seems to be no boss should be splatterable
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> Wrong, maybe if you asked what my real logic is or even talked about it then you’d know. A boss shouldn’t be instantly killable, if splatter makes them so then they’re not a real A.I. Boss lol. I think a little class in A.I. Bosses 101 would help you out.
You say if they are instantly splatterable, then they aren’t real AI bosses…but there are already bosses who can be. Maybe you should take that AI Boss 101 class.
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> They need to stop focusing on making bosses as tanky as possible and start improving their AI. It should feel as though we’re fighting an actual, living, thinking being capable of reacting accordingly to our actions. With the way it is right now it feels more like we’re blasting away at a 25ft thick metal wall with automated turrets when we fight bosses.
This is what I miss about Reach. I remember the Reach Elites were pretty smart and the Ultra Elites felt like intelligent bosses who were hard to kill because of their smarts and speed. H5 Elites pretty much just stare at you while you kill them.