> > > Or they could just let maps go free after a couple months, and just have players that pay for it get early access along with other exclusive content such as cosmetics and maybe a gametype of some kind, similar to how Gears of War 3 handled their map packs. That way DLC doesn’t segregate the multiplayer community and doesn’t drive away players that can’t or don’t want to pay for it.
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> > If you do it this way mechman there still lies the problem that even if the maps are free you can still segregate the community if people do not download the maps which happens a lot as not everyone can be bothered or wants the maps. If you have Mandatory DLC for ranked only as I have suggested you can keep everyone happy mostly as everyone can still play the game you don’t lose out on any games modes just an official rank not anything game braking.
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> Once the map is free there is no hindrance for downloading aside from the time it takes for your connection to download the maps. Only then should it be mandatory. Making paid DLC mandatory only serves to drive a wedge into the community.
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> With how Gears of War 3 handled it, once the DLC went public, there was a required download for all players. This download actually included all the maps and cosmetics available in the DLC, but it was locked until a player paid for it, or the maps went free a month later. The mandatory download allowed for non-paid players to see the DLC skins from paid players.
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> If that’s how Halo handled it, there would only be a month or two where the available map DLC separated the community, but would be mended after that period.
This would be okay with me if they gave the maps for free eventually or at a very reduced rate as long as eventually everyone had to download the maps. If the maps at some point do not become a mandatory requirement as some point one way or another I do not see the point in even them being created it’s a waste.
> > > > > > > No. We should have an optional DLC filter or a devoted set of DLC playlists. We should not force people who bought the game to pay even more to enjoy it.
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> > > > > > If they kept the playlist permanent i would have no issue with this.
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> > > > > You may not but, mandatory DLC is stupid. You think micro-transactions are a scam? Look no further then mandatory DLC. Personally it does not make sense to when Yiaz’s way is more easily done.
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> > > > That is the problem though KitKat it is never done well and by giving people complete control you just end up with people like myself and others who pay for DLC then don’t get their money’s worth as we never get use what we have paid for. Besides how is mandatory DLC a scam as long as there are ranked and social playlists .
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> > > > If you wish to continue playing the game and enjoy playing slayer etc you still can no one is stopping you just don’t purchase the DLC and play social all you then miss out on is a Proper Rank nothing else.
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> > > Then the development team should do a better job then. They can make a mandatory DLC wall, but they can’t make a DLC filter or 3 permanent DLC playlists (when 343 has rotating playlists anyway)? Second of all, that is a load of BS. Maybe after a few years after the game has died down, but within 2 years or maybe as far as 3 years after release, there will be people looking for achievements and to enjoy the maps. Most people think like you and don’t buy the maps just to have them, they buy them to enjoy them.
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> > > If I don’t want to pay $10-$15 to play Ranked, then I’m screwed on Ranked. I like playing Ranked, it is fun every once in a while. If I HAVE to have DLC and I don’t have it, then I’m stuck with Social and that just kills that freedom doesn’t it? The flawed reasoning of it all is that I have purchased the game and I have reluctantly purchased the gold pass as well. Why should I still have to pay more to enjoy the full game? I shouldn’t. If they want to make the DLC free, then all is well, but they won’t.
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> > Yes but that is part of the problem they have tried this the problem lies with the population with DLC being very small, so the filtering system finds it difficult to match you with other people have all the DLC and the same goes for DLC playlists. Ff there is only a very marginal population who have DLC these become pointless and all you end up doing is creating multiple playlists which further separates the whole community as a whole.
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> > If you have ranked and social playlists and make DLC mandatory for ranked it is a reasonable and fair solution and gives people a real incentive to want to have the DLC. As it is now there is no real reason for DLC map packs they are just a waste of money. If you don’t want to pay for maps then you have social you still get the full experience of the game same playlists etc minus a ranking system.
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> I will restate this once again. I have payed for the console, for the game, for the internet, and for the Gold Pass. Why should I pay more to enjoy the game? Ranked is part of the game and should be part of it WITHOUT mandatory DLC.
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> If there aren’t enough people who own the DLC to make a filter or playlist matter, then the DLC should be free. The Witcher does free DLC and you expect me to believe that it is impossible for the Xbox flagship title to do this? You either make DLC free (which is fair) or you don’t make it all. But you sure as hell don’t force people to buy it to enjoy the game they have already made an investment in.
All I will say is it worked for Halo 2 & 3 so why could it not work for Halo 5G besides you’re not being forced to purchase anything, like i said you still can play the whole expect in a social environment you’re not really losing out on anything.
Plus they don’t have to make it mandatory for all ranked playlists maybe just the ones with the highest population that’s how i would do it. So you need the DLC for Slayer and BTB Ranked however, Team Objective ranked or Lone Wolves Ranked you could still play without the DLC it to me seems reasonably fair anyway.