#MakeHaloGreatAgain

Lets make Halo great again guys!

If you haven’t already, listen to this great gentleman:

Cheers,

Sasu

Lazy Link.

I bet he’s a Trump supporter.
JK, doesn’t matter anyway.
Too long of as video almost half an hour, can someone just tell me the main points of the video ?
Thanks in advance. :slight_smile:

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> I bet he’s a Trump supporter.
> JK, doesn’t matter anyway.
> Too long of as video almost half an hour, can someone just tell me the main points of the video ?
> Thanks in advance. :slight_smile:

Mostly how the quality of Halo has changed.

343 doesn’t acknowledge the sub communities out there (forgers, Youtubers, Machinimators etc)
Game modes locked to Online mode.
Halo 5 Theater being broken.
The lack of splitscreen.
The REQ system and it’s effect on the free dlc and also Micro Transactions.
343 Knew Halo 5 was lacking content and had all planned out ahead of time, instead of putting it in there from the start.
What we can do to change what’s happening.

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> > 2535433113586217;3:
> > I bet he’s a Trump supporter.
> > JK, doesn’t matter anyway.
> > Too long of as video almost half an hour, can someone just tell me the main points of the video ?
> > Thanks in advance. :slight_smile:
>
>
> Mostly how the quality of Halo has changed.
>
> 343 doesn’t acknowledge the sub communities out there (forgers, Youtubers, Machinimators etc)
> Game modes locked to Online mode.
> Halo 5 Theater being broken.
> The lack of splitscreen.
> The REQ system and it’s effect on the free dlc and also Micro Transactions.
> 343 Knew Halo 5 was lacking content and had all planned out ahead of time, instead of putting it in there from the start.
> What we can do to change what’s happening.

Thanks.
What I have to say is (what I just bolded) that not all 343’s fault, since (I heard) the Halo 5 campaign was going to be different than the one we currently have, so what if they already had that done, but then had to change it.
You see what I’m trying to say? or should I say more ?

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> > 2535433113586217;3:
> > I bet he’s a Trump supporter.
> > JK, doesn’t matter anyway.
> > Too long of as video almost half an hour, can someone just tell me the main points of the video ?
> > Thanks in advance. :slight_smile:
>
> Mostly how the quality of Halo has changed.
>
> 343 doesn’t acknowledge the sub communities out there (forgers, Youtubers, Machinimators etc)
> -disagree… plenty has been added for forge and most claim it’s better than ever. Who really cares about the YouTubers? Machinamtors don’t know…Red Vs Blue is still going strong so whatever…
>
> Game modes locked to Online mode.
>
> Well originally ALL of Xbox one was going to be online only so be grateful the campaign is playable offline.
>
> Halo 5 Theater being broken.
>
> Seems ok I guess. I use upload app for videos and it seems to work good.
>
> The lack of splitscreen.
> Known from the start… sucks but to late to do anything really.
>
> The REQ system and it’s effect on the free dlc and also Micro Transactions.
>
> Well we can argue the “updates” would have been better had they been paid dlc but with Halo dwindling population a “free” update system was pretty much necessary over a paid population splitting system.
>
> 343 Knew Halo 5 was lacking content and had all planned out ahead of time, instead of putting it in there from the start.
>
> Ummm well most of us who follow Halo knew this from the start. I knew there would be NO split screen, no big team battle and stuff would be added in monthly updates… guess some are just upset they didn’t get that memo.
>
> What we can do to change what’s happening.
> Not much really. Just give our feed back here and in the community feedback program and hope they see it. But even then it’s THEIR game to do with as they please.

I gave it 12 minutes, and I didn’t stop because the guy’s an idiot - he isn’t. But it was still the same old stuff I’ve heard a million times. Yeah, split screen was a mistake, but I personally believe it was an unavoidable mistake. No, the campaign doesn’t make sense without a little background. I’m sorry for the barrier-to-entry but I’d rather not have Halo campaigns all start at zero every single time. On the subject of missing content, I’m sorry but referring to each individual game type as a “community” is a stretch. If I was in charge of CoD and there was a playlist that drew 1% of the population… it would get the axe. Anything else is an irresponsible business decision.

I’m not trying to say that people have no right to be disappointed. They do. Clearly he is. I’m saying that just because something existed in a previous version of Halo does not mean that it must exist in the present version of Halo. Especially if there’s a logical reason for it not to exist in the present version. It all just smacks of glass-half-empty thinking.

#MakeMoreCrappyHashtags

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> Lets make Halo great again guys!
> If you haven’t already, listen to this great gentleman:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNAT2YHx1qc
> Cheers,
> Sasu

this act man is talking about halo’s decline yet he has a halo reach wallpaper up.
go -Yoink- yourself mr act man

edit- he also has a halo 4 wallpaper XD

dear people.
stop listening to just anyone who says halo is declining. Look for people who support their arguments
look for actual facts and reasons
compare halo 4 and 5
halo is improving
sales trends take longer change compared to product quality
thats why halo4 sold well
thats why if halo 6 improves on 5 it will sell well

edit- i heard him say this multiple times : “if you think this…you’re -Yoinking!- stupid”
we need a noble prize here for logic

oh…and everyone …listen to both sides of the argument
#USEYOURBRAIN

edit-
for example
i think people are upset that split screen got axed for 60fps (a graphics thing)
then people complain that big team battle maps are dev made in forge and so play exactly the same but are not graphically good enough

for example
everyone complained in reach and 4 that the map design sucked
so they made gr8 maps in 5
and casual maps for warzone
then people complain that there are no casual arena maps
so we get forge
then people complain about forge maps looking 2 plain
so we get textures
all this needs online cloud processing
then people complain that forge is online only
#killmepls

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> dear people.
> stop listening to anyone who says halo is declining
> look for actual facts and reasons
> compare halo 4 and 5
> halo is improving
> sales trends take longer change compared to product quality
> thats why halo4 sold well
> thats why if halo 6 improves on 5 it will sell well

So you saying Halo 5 has good quality?

Halo was bare bones at launch, but the monthly updates were a marketing ploy and it worked. There has been monthly chatter about Halo updates every month. I wish they had been a bit more transparent about what they were doing, but I’ll be the first to admit the updates kept me around and playing more regularly than I otherwise would have. As far as the REQ system, it has it’s cons, but once you finish Golds the game loses something. The mystery and sense of progression you get from adding to your collection is missed once your finished. No one wants to admit it, but if everything we have now was dumped out at launch, most of us would have gotten bored and moved on already.

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> > 2535466171875810;10:
> > dear people.
> > stop listening to anyone who says halo is declining
> > look for actual facts and reasons
> > compare halo 4 and 5
> > halo is improving
> > sales trends take longer change compared to product quality
> > thats why halo4 sold well
> > thats why if halo 6 improves on 5 it will sell well
>
>
> So you saying Halo 5 has good quality?

yes.
im saying it has a better quality than halo 4
im saying it has a better multiplayer and a better firefight than reach
" oooh but reach had it from the -Yoinking!- start" reach had such a -Yoinked!- up pvp it needed a title update ok
im aslo saying it has the best forge ever
im also saying it has great non dlc support like bug fixes
im also saying they made the multiplayer more like halo’s than 4 or reach did
im also saying that the game has better content than say cod or doom and more content than overwatch or battlefront
COME AT ME BRO

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also look people
i h8 grifball
do i complain about getting grifball instead of race
no
y
other people like grifball
#learnsomething

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where’d they go
my bloodlust ain’t satisfied

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Criticism is needed to improve the game, but if the majority of your content is about what’s wrong with a game then who would want to play it after seeing your channel? This video turns people off to Halo.

i h8 it when people praise the possibilities of the new forge then complain its online only
breah
its this good because of cloud computing and online only

There were only two outstanding things that I disliked about Halo 5.

Lack of split screen - Which wasn’t actually a big deal for me to any extent, but it would have been cool to have that option to play with my girlfriend or if I have friends around. But I rarely ever played split screen anyway, so no big deal.

Online connectivity issues for 3-5 months following release - I live in Australia, and most of the support for online seemed to be put off. Played again online for the first time in months the other night though, and it’s all spin’n’span now, so that complaint is moot.

GREAT things about Halo 5:

A consistent stream of free online content monthly. I hear now that it isn’t going to be monthly anymore, but there will still be free stuff.

But most importantly, the campaign. I’m all in Halo for the story and always have been. I understand that if you only ever played Halo and never read any of the books then some of the story in H5 would or could be confusing and lost on you, but from the perspective of a Halo fan who has loved the books as standalone sci-fi novels, it’s been awesome to see the extended canon included in such integral ways. It has expanded the story and the directions of the game.
Old school Halo was the foundation, and they were all awesome in terms of story, gameplay, and replayability.
New Halo is the trunk reaching ever higher and branching off in new and exciting directions with the gameplay and story.

And it has gladdened me to see the development of in-game John-117’s character. His character always got a lot more fleshing out in the novels than it did in Halo 1-3. And in my opinion, that was because the popular gaming direction of that period of time was a relatively blank character for the player to put their own persona onto. Now we’re finally getting to enjoy the development and evolution of John as a character.
The only point about Halo 4-5 that I haven’t liked in terms of John’s character/evolution, is the scene where the Librarian enhanced his genetic structure. I would love to see if that is expanded to having more effects than simple immunity to the composer.

Anywho, that’s my two cents worth!

Halo is already great. :slight_smile: