make VoW req point friendly

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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The voices of war pack looks cool and was semi excited I wanted exuberant since she sounded quorky , yet the post said for $10.00 please 343 make it so I can buy it with req points (no falcon in MoR ruined the update for many don’t make the same mistake). People want this pack we bought h5 and have sticked with it for a year don’t hide it behind a paywall, if not at least add it to gold packs where it is at least obtainable for those who cannot just buy things with money.

Please don’t yell in the comments but show resentment towards this micro transaction takeover.

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> The voices of war pack looks cool and was semi excited I wanted exuberant since she sounded quorky , yet the post said for $10.00 please 343 make it so I can buy it with req points (no falcon in MoR ruined the update for many don’t make the same mistake). People want this pack we bought h5 and have sticked with it for a year don’t hide it behind a paywall, if not at least add it to gold packs where it is at least obtainable for those who cannot just buy things with money.
>
> Please don’t yell in the comments but show resentment towards this micro transaction takeover.

343? Appeal to a fan’s plea?

Hahaha! What’s that, you said you wanted it to be $25 instead? Well if you insist…

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Ok I’m going to point out two things here

  1. Falcon was never promised, and holding that against 343 is just petty at this point.

  2. This voice pack is a lot different from the typical content weve gotten in a sense that the VA need to actually get paid for their work, and with the strike going on right now not paying them for their stuff would be a very dangerous move.

All in all it can be disapointing for some that its not included in the req pool but before you jump to conclusions and try to blame 343 for something, do try looking at from all perspectives.

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I actually got REALLY disappointed at this. I expected to have Buck, who is my favorite Halo character, as a MP announcer, but I have to pay 10 bucks for it. Really, couldn’t they have put it at 100,000 RP as well like other Packs that also costed 10 dollars? Sure, it’d be quite a grind, but at least we wouldn’t have to pay. Some people like me don’t have the money to get it, and I’ve been playing the game since it came out, went up to SR 141 as of right now, and unlocked all the REQs save for Achilles, Special Emblems and HCS stuff (which is pay-only) without having spent a single dollar in anything but the game itself, and sure as hell I’m not paying now. If what Microsoft wants is to empty my wallet then you’re not gonna get anything else than what I’ve spent already. Damn, I wouldn’t even care if it’s 1,000,000 RP, just make it unlockable by playing, after all that’s what we’re all here for, ain’t that true?

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I literally just told me friend that this was coming to halo 5. Both of us were excited. I just told him the bad news, now both of us aren’t getting it. No way we’re spending $10 bucks on this.

I would love to this to be RP friendly, but 343I is in business to make money and as long as people are dumb enough to keep supporting mirotransactions in video games, companies are going to keep doing them. Granted, this is a little different then traditional mirotransactions, but still. To me this is something that should of been in day 1 like so many other things.

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> Ok I’m going to point out two things here
>
> 1. Falcon was never promised, and holding that against 343 is just petty at this point.
>
> 2. This voice pack is a lot different from the typical content weve gotten in a sense that the VA need to actually get paid for their work, and with the strike going on right now not paying them for their stuff would be a very dangerous move.
>
> All in all it can be disapointing for some that its not included in the req pool but before you jump to conclusions and try to blame 343 for something, do try looking at from all perspectives.

With that logic, why is it we didn’t pay the artists for all the weapon skin packs? I take that back. I probably just gave 343i an idea for H6

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It makes a lot more sense to put it behind a paywall, because these are not objects. These are real people who’s talents are being used to create a pack. You don’t pay a Prophet’s Bane real money to do its job, but you do pay a real person to do their job. This is also to my knowledge a permanent addition to the REQ store, so pricing it at 10,000 RP, or even 1,000,000 RP would mean there is no incentive to buy it with money (unless you’re really -Yoinking!- impatient.) This isn’t like M.o.M. or any other limited time pack. 343 needs to scrape up the money to pay the actors. I thought it was limited time, giving people more incentive to buy it, so I was hyped. While I’m a bit disappointed that I won’t be able to get the pack, I understand why 343 priced it this way. Hey, at least it’s not 10$ to make the MC your permanent ally in Arena.

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> > Ok I’m going to point out two things here
> >
> > 1. Falcon was never promised, and holding that against 343 is just petty at this point.
> >
> > 2. This voice pack is a lot different from the typical content weve gotten in a sense that the VA need to actually get paid for their work, and with the strike going on right now not paying them for their stuff would be a very dangerous move.
> >
> > All in all it can be disapointing for some that its not included in the req pool but before you jump to conclusions and try to blame 343 for something, do try looking at from all perspectives.
>
> With that logic, why is it we didn’t pay the artists for all the weapon skin packs? I take that back. I probably just gave 343i an idea for H6

Because they directly work for 343, they get a pay check every payday, these VA do not, they are contracted and then they get paid for whatever agreement they have, and in this case its probably royalties from the req packs.

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I would happily save 100k plus points for it

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> > > 2533274907430989;3:
> > > Ok I’m going to point out two things here
> > >
> > > 1. Falcon was never promised, and holding that against 343 is just petty at this point.
> > >
> > > 2. This voice pack is a lot different from the typical content weve gotten in a sense that the VA need to actually get paid for their work, and with the strike going on right now not paying them for their stuff would be a very dangerous move.
> > >
> > > All in all it can be disapointing for some that its not included in the req pool but before you jump to conclusions and try to blame 343 for something, do try looking at from all perspectives.
> >
> > With that logic, why is it we didn’t pay the artists for all the weapon skin packs? I take that back. I probably just gave 343i an idea for H6
>
> Because they directly work for 343, they get a pay check every payday, these VA do not, they are contracted and then they get paid for whatever agreement they have, and in this case its probably royalties from the req packs.

That makes sense. I just don’t understand why 343i couldn’t pay for those contracts out of their profits instead of passing that cost off on the consumer

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> > > > Ok I’m going to point out two things here
> > > >
> > > > 1. Falcon was never promised, and holding that against 343 is just petty at this point.
> > > >
> > > > 2. This voice pack is a lot different from the typical content weve gotten in a sense that the VA need to actually get paid for their work, and with the strike going on right now not paying them for their stuff would be a very dangerous move.
> > > >
> > > > All in all it can be disapointing for some that its not included in the req pool but before you jump to conclusions and try to blame 343 for something, do try looking at from all perspectives.
> > >
> > > With that logic, why is it we didn’t pay the artists for all the weapon skin packs? I take that back. I probably just gave 343i an idea for H6
> >
> > Because they directly work for 343, they get a pay check every payday, these VA do not, they are contracted and then they get paid for whatever agreement they have, and in this case its probably royalties from the req packs.
>
> That makes sense. I just don’t understand why 343i couldn’t pay for those contracts out of their profits instead of passing that cost off on the consumer

Its like I said royalties, and say out of 10 people 8 bought it with req points 343 would have to cover that cost with their own profits and it would be very bad from a bussiness stand point to lose that much profit. Now however I do see a big disappointment from the fact that they arent buyable seperatley. Myself however will probably buy it since I loved exuberant, and I really like buck, so thats a 2 out of 3 win for me, and I’m willing to give the grunt a try because I generally enjoy what the grunts say in game.

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Why do I have to pay 10 bucks for one Buck? I would have bought this… but expensive much?

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> I actually got REALLY disappointed at this. I expected to have Buck, who is my favorite Halo character, as a MP announcer, but I have to pay 10 bucks for it. Really, couldn’t they have put it at 100,000 RP as well like other Packs that also costed 10 dollars? Sure, it’d be quite a grind, but at least we wouldn’t have to pay. Some people like me don’t have the money to get it, and I’ve been playing the game since it came out, went up to SR 141 as of right now, and unlocked all the REQs save for Achilles, Special Emblems and HCS stuff (which is pay-only) without having spent a single dollar in anything but the game itself, and sure as hell I’m not paying now. If what Microsoft wants is to empty my wallet then you’re not gonna get anything else than what I’ve spent already. Damn, I wouldn’t even care if it’s 1,000,000 RP, just make it unlockable by playing, after all that’s what we’re all here for, ain’t that true?

I am curious if you bought the map packs for previous Halo games or if you buy the dlc basically every game has been putting out for the past decade. Or if you just stick with the original part of the game.
And if you do buy that stuff, how you can justify yourself complaining about 10 bucks when they’ve been giving you free content since launch.

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> > 2535466397409702;4:
> > I actually got REALLY disappointed at this. I expected to have Buck, who is my favorite Halo character, as a MP announcer, but I have to pay 10 bucks for it. Really, couldn’t they have put it at 100,000 RP as well like other Packs that also costed 10 dollars? Sure, it’d be quite a grind, but at least we wouldn’t have to pay. Some people like me don’t have the money to get it, and I’ve been playing the game since it came out, went up to SR 141 as of right now, and unlocked all the REQs save for Achilles, Special Emblems and HCS stuff (which is pay-only) without having spent a single dollar in anything but the game itself, and sure as hell I’m not paying now. If what Microsoft wants is to empty my wallet then you’re not gonna get anything else than what I’ve spent already. Damn, I wouldn’t even care if it’s 1,000,000 RP, just make it unlockable by playing, after all that’s what we’re all here for, ain’t that true?
>
> I am curious if you bought the map packs for previous Halo games or if you buy the dlc basically every game has been putting out for the past decade. Or if you just stick with the original part of the game.
> And if you do buy that stuff, how you can justify yourself complaining about 10 bucks when they’ve been giving you free content since launch.

Ok, 1st, I did buy other DLCs from older Halo games, specifically Reach’s Map Packs. However I actually regret that decision, I basically paid $20 for 6 maps between Defiant and Noble (I got Anniversary free with CEA) with I’ve barely ever played on save for Unearthed as it’s a FF map since they won’t show up on Matchmaking unless EVERYONE in the lobby has them, which never happens. Basically money flushed away…
I personally dislike the whole concept of DLCs. I’ve already saved up money to get a game, then a DLC shows up and you can’t enjoy the full game anymore. Plus half the time the appearance of these DLCs make owning the game without them almost worthless (looking at you Destiny.) If a DLC brings some brand new feature into the game (as long as it doesn’t break MP balance), or a Campaign Expansion, I can accept it, but when it’s just maps, customization add-ons or stuff like that I do find it stupid.
And to me microtransactions are just the worst, half the time they’re a Pay to Win and they’re just a cheap alternative way to get stuff, which you should unlock by playing the game, because that’s why you bought it: to play it.
But when there’s a thing like this which is a pack which can only be bought with money even though almost every other special pack can be purchased with in-game currency, that pisses me off. Because I just don’t have the money, and after playing the game so much and not having any goal after having unlocked everything I get something worth grinding for, they come at me and say “Ok you want this, then pay up! Oh wait you don’t have money, then you won’t get it! Wait, you say that you’re gonna play the game until you can get it no matter how much that takes? Well no you can’t! Either you pay or you get nothing!”
From this on you should have a clear idea of my opinion, whether you may agree or not, but hey, everyone has their own opinions.

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Even if it was 200,000rp.
But 10$ isn’t that bad.

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> 2533274907430989;3:
> Ok I’m going to point out two things here
>
> 1. Falcon was never promised, and holding that against 343 is just petty at this point.
>
> 2. This voice pack is a lot different from the typical content weve gotten in a sense that the VA need to actually get paid for their work, and with the strike going on right now not paying them for their stuff would be a very dangerous move.
>
> All in all it can be disapointing for some that its not included in the req pool but before you jump to conclusions and try to blame 343 for something, do try looking at from all perspectives.

Funny how you talk about perspectives when you ignore so many.

The issue with the Falcon was that Halo 5 needed and still does, more life and adding a new vehicle type aka troop VTOL would of done that but they choose for something no one asked for. Not only did they canonically X the Hornet but they gave is what is basically just a Phaeton with shields and bullets. People get upset about having something they want in a game getting shot down for something they didn’t want. As it was said before, we asked for Chicken ad we got steak. There’s nothing wrong iwth steak but we want chicken.

Even then on the note of paying VA actors which you are right the strike is a problem we don’t have any confirmation that these voices lines aren’t just being brought up from old files, meaning the actors have already been paid and these weren’t used until now. Modding communities ask devs for these on a normal basis and many times they’ll have a few lying around and make them available or they’re just buried within the games files.

There are many other ways to look at this situation in good or bad lights but I just wanted to show you a few in opposition.

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> I actually got REALLY disappointed at this. I expected to have Buck, who is my favorite Halo character, as a MP announcer, but I have to pay 10 bucks for it. Really, couldn’t they have put it at 100,000 RP as well like other Packs that also costed 10 dollars? Sure, it’d be quite a grind, but at least we wouldn’t have to pay. Some people like me don’t have the money to get it, and I’ve been playing the game since it came out, went up to SR 141 as of right now, and unlocked all the REQs save for Achilles, Special Emblems and HCS stuff (which is pay-only) without having spent a single dollar in anything but the game itself, and sure as hell I’m not paying now. If what Microsoft wants is to empty my wallet then you’re not gonna get anything else than what I’ve spent already. Damn, I wouldn’t even care if it’s 1,000,000 RP, just make it unlockable by playing, after all that’s what we’re all here for, ain’t that true?

you don’t have 10 dollar’s? Come on , its not that much, its not like its $35 or something, I think its a reasonable price

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> > > 2535466397409702;4:
> > > I actually got REALLY disappointed at this. I expected to have Buck, who is my favorite Halo character, as a MP announcer, but I have to pay 10 bucks for it. Really, couldn’t they have put it at 100,000 RP as well like other Packs that also costed 10 dollars? Sure, it’d be quite a grind, but at least we wouldn’t have to pay. Some people like me don’t have the money to get it, and I’ve been playing the game since it came out, went up to SR 141 as of right now, and unlocked all the REQs save for Achilles, Special Emblems and HCS stuff (which is pay-only) without having spent a single dollar in anything but the game itself, and sure as hell I’m not paying now. If what Microsoft wants is to empty my wallet then you’re not gonna get anything else than what I’ve spent already. Damn, I wouldn’t even care if it’s 1,000,000 RP, just make it unlockable by playing, after all that’s what we’re all here for, ain’t that true?
> >
> > I am curious if you bought the map packs for previous Halo games or if you buy the dlc basically every game has been putting out for the past decade. Or if you just stick with the original part of the game.
> > And if you do buy that stuff, how you can justify yourself complaining about 10 bucks when they’ve been giving you free content since launch.
>
> Ok, 1st, I did buy other DLCs from older Halo games, specifically Reach’s Map Packs. However I actually regret that decision, I basically paid $20 for 6 maps between Defiant and Noble (I got Anniversary free with CEA) with I’ve barely ever played on save for Unearthed as it’s a FF map since they won’t show up on Matchmaking unless EVERYONE in the lobby has them, which never happens. Basically money flushed away…
> I personally dislike the whole concept of DLCs. I’ve already saved up money to get a game, then a DLC shows up and you can’t enjoy the full game anymore. Plus half the time the appearance of these DLCs make owning the game without them almost worthless (looking at you Destiny.) If a DLC brings some brand new feature into the game (as long as it doesn’t break MP balance), or a Campaign Expansion, I can accept it, but when it’s just maps, customization add-ons or stuff like that I do find it stupid.
> And to me microtransactions are just the worst, half the time they’re a Pay to Win and they’re just a cheap alternative way to get stuff, which you should unlock by playing the game, because that’s why you bought it: to play it.
> But when there’s a thing like this which is a pack which can only be bought with money even though almost every other special pack can be purchased with in-game currency, that pisses me off. Because I just don’t have the money, and after playing the game so much and not having any goal after having unlocked everything I get something worth grinding for, they come at me and say “Ok you want this, then pay up! Oh wait you don’t have money, then you won’t get it! Wait, you say that you’re gonna play the game until you can get it no matter how much that takes? Well no you can’t! Either you pay or you get nothing!”
> From this on you should have a clear idea of my opinion, whether you may agree or not, but hey, everyone has their own opinions.

but to be fair, if you buy it its not game changing, you don’t get an OP weapon that no one else does, its effectively a cosmetic micro transaction, like in overwatch e.t.c

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> > 2533274907430989;3:
> > Ok I’m going to point out two things here
> >
> > 1. Falcon was never promised, and holding that against 343 is just petty at this point.
> >
> > 2. This voice pack is a lot different from the typical content weve gotten in a sense that the VA need to actually get paid for their work, and with the strike going on right now not paying them for their stuff would be a very dangerous move.
> >
> > All in all it can be disapointing for some that its not included in the req pool but before you jump to conclusions and try to blame 343 for something, do try looking at from all perspectives.
>
> Funny how you talk about perspectives when you ignore so many.
>
> The issue with the Falcon was that Halo 5 needed and still does, more life and adding a new vehicle type aka troop VTOL would of done that but they choose for something no one asked for. Not only did they canonically X the Hornet but they gave is what is basically just a Phaeton with shields and bullets. People get upset about having something they want in a game getting shot down for something they didn’t want. As it was said before, we asked for Chicken ad we got steak. There’s nothing wrong iwth steak but we want chicken.
>
> Even then on the note of paying VA actors which you are right the strike is a problem we don’t have any confirmation that these voices lines aren’t just being brought up from old files, meaning the actors have already been paid and these weren’t used until now. Modding communities ask devs for these on a normal basis and many times they’ll have a few lying around and make them available or they’re just buried within the games files.
>
> There are many other ways to look at this situation in good or bad lights but I just wanted to show you a few in opposition.

It is true that these could be audio files just lying around, but it would be highly unlikely, but it is possible (I did do some digging through cut audio, and the most interesting thing I found was an exuberant voice line hinting at multiple endings originally being planned and a grunt radio show with the same voice yabda has.)

Anyways onto the Falcon, thats a whole other story and I dont really want to detract from this threads purpose, but the thing is, many people treated the no falcon thing in a way that it seemed 343 promised it, even though they didn’t, and while its perfectly fine to request the Falcon in Halo 5, it is quite obvious that putting it in the game in less than a month is quite a ridiculous request. (Although I personally have a strong distaste for the Falcon, the Hornet was much cooler and a lot more fun to use)

Anyways onto me not showing the other point of views for this subject, its more or so the fact that the other side was already present, and I wanted to bring insight into this.

EDIT: the Wasp plays quite different from the Phaeteon, its much more agile and less tanky (obviously) the only similarity they have is being VTOL, and having two different types of fire, much like the Hornet

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Most good games that I play that have had microtrancation and been highly active for years don’t have and never will have content that can’t be earned through the rng system. The microtrancation are all based on skipping through the grind for a price. The trick is to have enough content so it’s very hard to grind it all.

What would be so wrong with these being in the req pool as mythics and being available as a pack for a straight up purchase?