"Make the game better for me"

I find it funny how many threads there are requesting various tweaks throughout the game which I’ll gladly say is one of the most solid built I’ve played from launch, for sometime.

God forbid that some of you would have to gone through the days of Halo CE and 2 or even Goldeneye! We never used to complain about which weapon was over powered and which was completely useless. We’d identify elements within the game that would suit our play styles and USE THEM TO OUR ADVANTAGE!
When I first jumped online for Halo 2, I was getting my derriere handed to me, I never took to the forum to vent my frustration, I just practiced, got better and then eventually made up all my deaths by making sure I finished every game with at least 1 kill higher. With time and persistence I got better but nowadays, ha no way would that happen. OMG, the pistol is so powerful, it’s supposed to be a side arm bla bla bla bla bla boohoo!

Also complaints regarding the ranking system, some of you guys need to learn and understand the meaning of the phrase “There’s no I in team” so you might get lumbered with a team who maybe aren’t as good as you, I highly doubt you’ve stopped for a moment to think during your selfish heroic struggle to win it for the team that maybe if you shadowed one of your team mates you might be able to get a kill whilst keeping your team mate alive. If you long for nothing more than glory and don’t have a squad, stick to FFA, show everyone else how good your really are :wink:

To conclude you guys need to appreciate it when the goods are delivered. We’ve got a solid game that’s a major improvement on the MP of 4. It’s fair, balanced and I’m having a lot of fun playing it.

Kudos 343I

Whole lot of assumptions and presumptions (incorrect ones, for that matter) for a post which concludes with little more than an -Yoink–kiss towards 343.

see if i could i would have complained a little in the old halo days but meh i normally only talk about things they need to be added or fixed in my opinion

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> Whole lot of assumptions and presumptions (incorrect ones, for that matter) for a post which concludes with little more than an -Yoink–kiss towards 343.

This ^^^
Also there is a ME in team if you look for it…
btw it isn’t fair and balanced for players outside of the USA… just do i quick search for the number of posts about dedicated servers

> To conclude you guys need to appreciate it when the goods are delivered. We’ve got a solid game that’s a major improvement on the MP of 4. It’s fair, balanced and I’m having a lot of fun playing it.

It isn’t a solid game at all

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> I find it funny how many threads there are requesting various tweaks throughout the game which I’ll gladly say is one of the most solid built I’ve played from launch, for sometime.
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> God forbid that some of you would have to gone through the days of Halo CE and 2 or even Goldeneye! We never used to complain about which weapon was over powered and which was completely useless. We’d identify elements within the game that would suit our play styles and USE THEM TO OUR ADVANTAGE!
> When I first jumped online for Halo 2, I was getting my derriere handed to me, I never took to the forum to vent my frustration, I just practiced, got better and then eventually made up all my deaths by making sure I finished every game with at least 1 kill higher. With time and persistence I got better but nowadays, ha no way would that happen. OMG, the pistol is so powerful, it’s supposed to be a side arm bla bla bla bla bla boohoo!
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> Also complaints regarding the ranking system, some of you guys need to learn and understand the meaning of the phrase “There’s no I in team” so you might get lumbered with a team who maybe aren’t as good as you, I highly doubt you’ve stopped for a moment to think during your selfish heroic struggle to win it for the team that maybe if you shadowed one of your team mates you might be able to get a kill whilst keeping your team mate alive. If you long for nothing more than glory and don’t have a squad, stick to FFA, show everyone else how good your really are :wink:
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> To conclude you guys need to appreciate it when the goods are delivered. We’ve got a solid game that’s a major improvement on the MP of 4. It’s fair, balanced and I’m having a lot of fun playing it.
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> Kudos 343I

Someone had to say it. Thanks OP

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> > Whole lot of assumptions and presumptions (incorrect ones, for that matter) for a post which concludes with little more than an -Yoink–kiss towards 343.
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> This ^^^
> Also there is a ME in team if you look for it…
> btw it isn’t fair and balanced for players outside of the USA… just do i quick search for the number of posts about dedicated servers
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> It isn’t a solid game at all

I think it is solid.

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> Whole lot of assumptions and presumptions (incorrect ones, for that matter) for a post which concludes with little more than an -Yoink–kiss towards 343.

Nice constructive post. Aren’t you assuming he is a 343 kiss -Yoink-, he could just genuinely like the game. And the pot called the kettle black lol

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> To conclude you guys need to appreciate it when the goods are delivered. We’ve got a solid game that’s a major improvement on the MP of 4. It’s fair, balanced and I’m having a lot of fun playing it.
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> Kudos 343I

That’s funny, because I don’t remember Halo 5 being marketed as “A pretty solid follow-up, and an improvement to the disaster that was Halo 4’s MP. It’s fair. Only $70… for half of the game, with the other half coming out in Dec. Pre-order now for 37 custom pixels to add to your Spartan”.

This game was supposed to be gigantic, and it was supposed to revolutionize (based on how they marketed it). It wasn’t, and didn’t.

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> > Whole lot of assumptions and presumptions (incorrect ones, for that matter) for a post which concludes with little more than an -Yoink–kiss towards 343.
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> Nice constructive post. Aren’t you assuming he is a 343 kiss -Yoink-, he could just genuinely like the game. And the plot called the kettle black lol

What am I supposed to constructively reply to? The entire post is based on his claim that everything you don’t like is A) working as intended and B) not inherently flawed. And that’s just assessing his main points which were unfounded assumptions pulled from the thin blue sky. I’m not going to counter a point that nobody made.

Nice triple post by the way, m80.

Thing is OP you brought up halo 2 but that game had an update that nerfed the noob combo and buffed other weapons, as soon as games have had the ability to apply updates after launch companies have been making tweaks to their games, all the people who are “complaining” are really just telling 343 what they would like to see done differently to try and improve halo 5, to suggest the game is completely fine in its current state is crazy in my opinion

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> That’s funny, because I don’t remember Halo 5 being marketed as “A pretty solid follow-up, and an improvement to the disaster that was Halo 4’s MP. It’s fair. Only $70… for half of the game, with the other half coming out in Dec. Pre-order now for 37 custom pixels to add to your Spartan”.
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> This game was supposed to be gigantic, and it was supposed to revolutionize (based on how they marketed it). It wasn’t, and didn’t.

Funny, I dont remember 343 saying the game was suppose to be gigantic or revolutionary. It was marketed as a competitive shooter with a focus on esports, along with a campaign that woul delve deeper into the lore. At least thats what I got through trailers and interviews.

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> Funny, I dont remember 343 saying the game was suppose to be gigantic or revolutionary. It was marketed as a competitive shooter with a focus on esports, along with a campaign that woul delve deeper into the lore. At least thats what I got through trailers and interviews.

Seriously every piece of media from 343 suggested “epic scale, our most ambitious game ever” etc etc

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> Seriously every piece of media from 343 suggested “epic scale, our most ambitious game ever” etc etc

Yeah… thought that was obvious.

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> What am I supposed to constructively reply to? The entire post is based on his claim that everything you don’t like is A) working as intended and B) not inherently flawed. And that’s just assessing his main points which were unfounded assumptions pulled from the thin blue sky. I’m not going to counter a point that nobody made.
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> Nice triple post by the way, m80.

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> What am I supposed to constructively reply to? The entire post is based on his claim that everything you don’t like is A) working as intended and B) not inherently flawed. And that’s just assessing his main points which were unfounded assumptions pulled from the thin blue sky. I’m not going to counter a point that nobody made.
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> Nice triple post by the way, m80.

His post was about people whining about a game rather than enjoying it like back in the day. Instead of countering why he is wrong in his thoughts you called him a 343 kiss -Yoink-.

Thanks for the trip post props. Im sure you are nicer in person lol

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> This ^^^
> Also there is a ME in team if you look for it…
> btw it isn’t fair and balanced for players outside of the USA… just do i quick search for the number of posts about dedicated servers
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> > To conclude you guys need to appreciate it when the goods are delivered. We’ve got a solid game that’s a major improvement on the MP of 4. It’s fair, balanced and I’m having a lot of fun playing it.
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> It isn’t a solid game at all

Actually it is. So please stop whining.

And @OP, there is something wrong with the Rank system currently. I’ve been demoted to a rank higher than I was AND promoted to a rank lower than I was twice.

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> Seriously every piece of media from 343 suggested “epic scale, our most ambitious game ever” etc etc

Look at the def of epic, you know more halo games will follow, right? Ambitious is a loose term to begin with.

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> His post was about people whining about a game rather than enjoying it like back in the day. Instead of countering why he is wrong in his thoughts you called him a 343 kiss -Yoink-.
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> Thanks for the trip post props. Im sure you are nicer in person lol

No it wasn’t, it was about how the problems people have aren’t actually problems and supporting that claim by creating his own arguments to defeat. We have a name for that: a strawman.

As for your point about “whining about a game rather than enjoying it back in the day”: that’s not true, frankly. People have always had opinions, but what they lacked was a way to contribute them by suggesting changes and influencing the direction of the series. The internet and its uses in 1997 shrivles before its ubiquity and utility in modern times, and while this does mean that people with non-issues now have a platform from which to complain to a wider audience, it also means that more voices can contribute rather than “deal with” things that were annoying, irritating, and outright broken.

And incidentally, Goldeneye was never good. I hated it back then and I hate it now. I’d only put up with it because I knew we’d switch to Mario Kart after a few rounds.

I really enjoy the game, multiplayer is well balanced for a start. The only thing I kind of miss is the stick deadzone configuration the beta had… Otherwise a perfect release for me.

Thread should be called “make the game better for me, and the 100s of thousands of people this game puts off”

You’re one person who likes it. That’s great for you. But for the many other people that don’t for valid reasons it’s not great. I know some gripes like the pistol being op are kind of bad but should still be considered anyway. I mean, you can prove that wrong, right? And just because you think it improves on H4 doesent mean A. Everyone else does B. That it actually does. Many people like me disapprove of the overhaed aiming system and other significant changes to the game.

> To conclude you guys need to appreciate it when the goods are delivered. We’ve got a solid game that’s a major improvement on the MP of 4. It’s fair, balanced and I’m having a lot of fun playing it.

So because you are personally having fun any and all complaints, suggestions and criticism are invalid? That isn’t how any of this works. You are free to disagree with the criticisms, but a game that neglects any and all suggestions is doomed to failure.