right 343, you need to hear this.
Im a big halo fan, but this ADS experiment you are doing is really putting me off.
I dont care if it doesnt affect gameplay etc, I DONT LIKE IT, and im no where near alone in this. Halo has never had ads, asthetically or otherwise and personally I find that enhanced halo’s charms.
People will say its just asthetics,to which i’ll say why did 343 crowbar it in?
Do the clever thing and make EVERYBODY happy. Allow us to toggle between H2a scopes and halo 5 scopes, even if i can oom with an AR for example I dont mind as i just wont do it. But there’s no way in hell i can take having to ADS with a pistol, its just not halo.
So yeah 343 be smart for once make us all satisfied (in this area at least) and make ADS optional, especially as no-one I know was asking for that -Yoink-.
P.S as you can tell by my frustrated tone, i still haven’t forgiven 343i for -Yoinking!- up the MCC
Smart scope is optional, like it always was in Halo. No one is forcing you to toggle scope.
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> Smart scope is optional, like it always was in Halo. No one is forcing you to toggle scope.
yeah, my issue is i cant oom without doing ads, (PLEASE stop trying to be cute to all the 343 dickriders). Can I use a BR/DMR long range without ADSing? No.
I dont want to see the asthetic but ironically (wrt your post) Im forced to.
There’s no ADS, there’s zoom which has always been in Halo. If you don’t like it, don’t buy the game. It’s that simple.
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> There’s no ADS, there’s zoom which has always been in Halo. If you don’t like it, don’t buy the game. It’s that simple.
why cant there be an option for both.
Why do you want me either to i) not fully enjoy a game or ii) not buy it?
WHY CANT IT BE OPTIONAL??
Like really, why are you 343 fanboys so adamant that ADS must stay? Seriously, no one anywhere was sitting there asking for ADS (because it is ADS, again lets not be cute) so why are you telling me that I have to like or lump it when ADS has NEVER been in a halo game? (we’ve had maybe 6 fps games 1 rts and spartan assault iirc)
I don’t understand the white knighting going on over this.
Actually only thing 343i did right now is applying scope to all weapons (because: why not?) and moved scoping to left trigger (which is more precise and comfortable than pressing the stick used for aiming - even now I’m playing MCC this way and Halo CE-4 all feel more intuitive). If you don’t like it, then there will be probably some “classic” control scheme.
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> Like really, why are you 343 fanboys so adamant that ADS must stay? Seriously, no one anywhere was sitting there asking for ADS (because it is ADS, again lets not be cute) so why are you telling me that I have to like or lump it when ADS has NEVER been in a halo game? (we’ve had maybe 6 fps games 1 rts and spartan assault iirc)
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> I don’t understand the white knighting going on over this.
Players need to be on a balanced field. Take the DMR for an example;
If you gave players the option to switch between the classic zoom and the Smart Scope, Then you would have come players with a clearer view of what they are shooting at, And some with a massive scope in their face.
The Battle Rifle also has this issue; Some players would have the classic scope with nothing obstructing their sights, While others would have the BR in their faces, But with much greater peripheral vision.
Some players would preform on a greater level with automatics against BR and DMR users, While others would fall short due to their lack of smart scope.
Everyone needs to be on an even field when it comes to these types of things. Everyone should have the same type of zoom to minimize the amount of randomness.
Do I think Smart Scope is needed for Halo? No. The Classic Zoom is perfectly fine. But at the same time, If it functions like the classics zoom, But with a prettier interface, Then I will give it a shot.
Also; Anyone who defends Smart Scope or is open to the idea is automatically a ‘White Knight’ for 343? That’s some superb logic right there.
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> Like really, why are you 343 fanboys so adamant that ADS must stay?
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> So yeah 343 be smart for once make us all satisfied (in this area at least) and make ADS optional, especially as no-one I know was asking for that -Yoink-.
Honestly, I wanted to take you seriously and be able to have a valid debate with you on whether or not it should stay in, but judging by the aforementioned quotes I just gave? It’s obvious you don’t want to have an intelligent conversation, debate or otherwise about your topic and would rather be a complete jerk to anyone who shows even the slightest signs of being okay with something new.
Perhaps mature a bit and come back when you can give a constructive and intelligent response that doesn’t involve swearing and calling others names. It’s not tactful, and certainly diminishes your posts (and subsequent responses) value.
Edit: By the way; on the topic of there NEVER having been ADS in Halo; What would you call those sights that are on the Battlerifle, the DMR, the Sniper Rifle, the Pistol, the Beam-rifle, the Covie Carbine, the Light-rifle, the Incinerator, the Binary Rifle, and all the others that require you to scope in with some form of weaponized scoping system? Obviously the camera or aiming system HAS to come from somewhere on the weapon so that the shot can be made more accurately, so what would you call all those?
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> There’s no ADS, there’s zoom which has always been in Halo. If you don’t like it, don’t buy the game. It’s that simple.
What kind of logic is that? Do you honestly think he is not going to buy a game because he dislikes a mechanic that can toggle on or off?
ADS is optional, if you don’t like the LT being zoom you can change it to right stick if you change your control scheme (Bumper Jumper, Southpaw, Recon, Etc.)
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Judging from his deranged tirades, I daresay yes.
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> ADS is optional, if you don’t like the LT being zoom you can change it to right stick if you change your control scheme (Bumper Jumper, Southpaw, Recon, Etc.)
ok i’ll be nice this time.
please research what we are talking about here. there is no classic halo zoom atm in halo 5. however you can zoom in, but the scope and ADS animation are shown.
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OK so you dont like my tone, fine, but accept I have every right to be frustrated witha company that threw my hard earned money down the drain with halo mcc. I’ll shout and swear as much as possible if it means halo 5 comes out and is a satisfying halo game, because i care.
ADS has never been in halo. Spartans dont even need to lift a weapon up to their eyes because their armor generates a reticule. Thats why there has never been a ADS system in halo. everything you see in game, is what the spartan sees. There’s no way that ADS is more efficient than the previosu reticule system, so the fact that its in halo 5 is mindboggling from a fans perspective and a lore perspective.
for a second there I though you were talking about ADS as in stuff that pop up before youtube video.
But A.D.S is something that will not make a huge deal I think. We have had it since halo day one with the pistol, sniper rifle, rocket launcher, fuel Rod gun. And by the way it looks, it is not that bad looking and it wont make as big of a deal as what you might think, bloom still happens and everything. just that it zooms in a little bit which makes since to add for spartans.
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> > Like really, why are you 343 fanboys so adamant that ADS must stay? Seriously, no one anywhere was sitting there asking for ADS (because it is ADS, again lets not be cute) so why are you telling me that I have to like or lump it when ADS has NEVER been in a halo game? (we’ve had maybe 6 fps games 1 rts and spartan assault iirc)
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> If you gave players the option to switch between the classic zoom and the Smart Scope, Then you would have come players with a clearer view of what they are shooting at, And some with a massive scope in their face.
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> The Battle Rifle also has this issue; Some players would have the classic scope with nothing obstructing their sights, While others would have the BR in their faces, But with much greater peripheral vision.
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> Some players would preform on a greater level with automatics against BR and DMR users, While others would fall short due to their lack of smart scope.
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> Everyone needs to be on an even field when it comes to these types of things. Everyone should have the same type of zoom to minimize the amount of randomness.
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> Do I think Smart Scope is needed for Halo? No. The Classic Zoom is perfectly fine. But at the same time, If it functions like the classics zoom, But with a prettier interface, Then I will give it a shot.
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> Also; Anyone who defends Smart Scope or is open to the idea is automatically a ‘White Knight’ for 343? That’s some superb logic right there.
Ok, I get where you’re coming from, but if some people want to use ADS and obscure their view, that’s their perogative. If 343 wants to go after the COD kids’ pocket money, thats fine too, but why should I someone who loves the fact that halo DOESNT use ADS have to suffer because of that? You’re post basically says that classic zoom is better as it takes up less screen…
So again why should 343 put it in? It doesn’t enhance anything, it irritates long term fans, and lets face it, it isnt going to make a massive difference to 343 balance sheet at the end of the day either. It makes literally no sense having it in.
I’d love for someone to give me a list of pros as to why ADS should be in halo 5, because to my mind I dont see any. Thats why I assume people who defend it are fanboys/white knights, because they rush in to defend the mechanic without saying anything as to why it should be in halo in the first place!!!
You could not make vehicle boarding and dual-wielding optional in matchmaking, why should these features be? By all means, let us have a more classic playlist or custom options for custom games, but not in general matchmaking.
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> OK so you dont like my tone, fine, but accept I have every right to be frustrated witha company that threw my hard earned money down the drain with halo mcc. I’ll shout and swear as much as possible if it means halo 5 comes out and is a satisfying halo game, because i care.
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> ADS has never been in halo. Spartans dont even need to lift a weapon up to their eyes because their armor generates a reticule. Thats why there has never been a ADS system in halo. everything you see in game, is what the spartan sees. There’s no way that ADS is more efficient than the previosu reticule system, so the fact that its in halo 5 is mindboggling from a fans perspective and a lore perspective.
I understand that you have a right, but putting it off on others with their right to their opinions and thoughts doesn’t give you the right to be a -Yoink-.
Further, yes I know that the hud generates a reticule; HOWEVER…the pistol that most Spartans use, if you notice, versus the one in Halo 2 has the front metal shield to it which actually protects what is essentially connecting to your visor/hud. The camera for the reticule. Same for the scope on the Battlerifle, and on the sniper and so on. It’s a system that gets pulled into the hud but you are essentially aiming through the weapon’s scope.
It still has to generate from the weapon itself so that you have the most accurate shots, so while it’s not pulling the weapon up and looking through sights it is essentially the same principle.
ADS slows the player, and increases accuracy; Smart Scope does neither. It is the exact same zoom with added animation and peripheral vision. They basically just took a normal scope, added more animation than before, and made the sides more translucent while giving the scope borders “realistic” art.
It functions the same, you get descoped when shot. Sure, all weapons now have it, but if it does nothing for accuracy it changes nothing noticeable with gameplay.