Magnum

I had this impression already in the first tech preview and now, after an hour of playing against bots (difficult level: spartan) I confirm my idea:

It’s too difficult / frustrating to do perfect kills with a 7 shots weapon. Of course you can start with the magnum and finish with AR, but I don’t find it a good solution in competitive dynamics. Imho, this game would be perfect with BR as primary weapon and AR as secondary.

The Spartan bots are absolutely shredding me with AR at mid to long range. I kind of like the idea of AR/Sidekick for social, makes it easier for players as they won’t get straight up dominated all game. That’s provided there aren’t too many precision weapons on the maps. Think big team will be better for it.

I have a very strong feeling competitive will be BR starts, AR secondary for standard, no secondary for hardcore/HCS.

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> I have a very strong feeling competitive will be BR starts, AR secondary for standard, no secondary for hardcore/HCS.

I hope

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> I have a very strong feeling competitive will be BR starts, AR secondary for standard, no secondary for hardcore/HCS.

The other weapons on the map are stronger than the AR though for the most part.

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Absolutely, just can’t believe the damage and range they’re getting out the thing.

That’s why we got the sidekick in this game instead of the magnum. The sidekick is meant to be a true sidearm/cleanup weapon rather than a primary like the magnum. You aren’t intended to use it as your main weapon, just to swap to it quickly to finish a kill. Because of this. You aren’t intended to get way perfect kills with it like you would a magnum.

As for what competitive will use, I’m placing my bets on BR primary/sidekick Secondary. Since the competitive scene always has an aversion to automatic weapons I doubt the AR will be in. Could potentially be commando primary but I think BR is more likely.

Hmn i actually really like the pistol as it is now. IT actually takes skill to pull of perfect kill. it sounds good, feels nice, can be used to get snipers to back off quick ext.
Playing against spartans a.i, i had no issues killing people with pistol 1 on 1. Switching over the slower weapons like the BR though against bots with pistol and it was much harder tbh. The fast rate of pistol fire can destroy ur shields so fast. It feels like the pistol is the go to weapon on smaller maps for sure.
The BR will only shine once we get to play on larger maps.

Yeah the AR got a major buff compared to other halo games. I like it since it’s actually usable now not like 3, reach, 4,

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Hitting across Recharge is a challenge still.

I can see it, but it’s also really close to halo 2/ reach. So I’m fine with it.

Its not too “difficult” so much as it is too random, its revenge of Halo Reach reticle bloom.