Lowering and Swapping Weapons Idea.

Something that bothered me in Halo is that:
1. You can’t lower your weapon online and you have to do some button combo when you have two free D-pad (right and down) buttons available.

2. You can’t swap weapons with other players.

Idea:

1. We should be able to lower our weapon in Reach just by pressing down on the D-pad.

We should be able to do this in custom games for machinimas. I also don’t see the harm in letting us lower our weapons in Matchmaking.

In fact, It might be good for Matchmaking. When you lower your weapon, your visual on the right will not be blocked by the gun. This would help people who gaurd bases. It’ll be balanced because although you can see a bit more, you’ll have a slower reaction time if someone’s shooting at you because you’ll first have to put up your gun and then fight back.(that one second delay of you taking out your gun can get you killed if the enemy knows how to aim.)

2. If you and a teammate are next to each other, you can swap weapons.

How this works:

First, both of you lower your weapons with the D-pad.

Second, both of you then hold down on the D-pad, then both of you will hold RB at the same time(I use Recon control scheme. Press X if you use default control scheme) while still holding down on the D-pad. The swap will then occur.

Details:

While holding down but not pressing RB, on the corner of the screen, it will say: Hold RB to swap [insert weapon] with [insert Gamertag] for both players. However, this popup only shows up if both players are holding down on the D-pad to prevent annoyances when using the weapon. Then both players will hold RB at the same time and the swap will occur.

Note: If both of you are using the same weapon when doing this, then you will instead even out on Ammo in case one of you has little to no ammo while the other has a lot.

I think that this idea is reasonable.

What do you guys think?

Discuss.

I really like the idea I think it is a great and a more creative way to play and it would influence a more constructive way of playing when your in a team.

I really like your ideas. I’ve always thought we should be able to lower weapons by pressing down on the dpad like you could in Halo 2. As for the weapon swap, that is brilliant and I can’t believe it hasn’t been thought of yet. My one criticism is that your system is a little convoluted and would need to be streamlined.

This is what ive been saying all along! We need something like this!

Definitely reasonable!

If I recall, there was a reason why lowering weapons was removed from online matchmaking, although I can’t remember what it was. If it could be put back in, I’d be all for it. The fact that the D-Pad isn’t used for this has always confused me. The button combos are so damn stupid and pointless.

> If I recall, there was a reason why lowering weapons was removed from online matchmaking, although I can’t remember what it was. If it could be put back in, I’d be all for it. The fact that the D-Pad isn’t used for this has always confused me. The button combos are so damn stupid and pointless.

It was removed due to weapon Glitching, but then just keep it custom games. No matchmaking weapon Down.

They could make a special (Insane) gametype that allows you to do it over LIVE in customs. Since the gametype would never appear in Matchmaking, there would be no glitches to exploit.

> > If I recall, there was a reason why lowering weapons was removed from online matchmaking, although I can’t remember what it was. If it could be put back in, I’d be all for it. The fact that the D-Pad isn’t used for this has always confused me. The button combos are so damn stupid and pointless.
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> It was removed due to weapon Glitching, but then just keep it custom games. No matchmaking weapon Down.

First, what was the weapon glitching?

Second, if they were able to patch it, would you like this idea and want it to be in matchmaking?

It would enhance the experience. Especially when trading weapons.

> They could make a special (Insane) gametype that allows you to do it over LIVE in customs. Since the gametype would never appear in Matchmaking, there would be no glitches to exploit.

First, I want this in Matchmaking.

Second, what was the weapon glitching?

Now, Reach has a different and more advanced game Engine than H2, I’m pretty sure that they could patch it.

> I really like the idea I think it is a great and a more creative way to play and it would influence a more constructive way of playing when your in a team.

Thank you!

Great idea and a good weapon exchange system.

YOURE TEH N00B USING RECON!!! nah i used to use when first played reach but yeah, that would be great for machinima and would you press up to bring it back up? i think you should be able to spawn withno weapons aswell and have to find them? that would help machinima as well me thinks

> YOURE TEH N00B USING RECON!!! nah i used to use when first played reach but yeah, that would be great for machinima and would you press up to bring it back up? i think you should be able to spawn withno weapons aswell and have to find them? that would help machinima as well me thinks

To put up your weapon, you press RT. Up on D-Pad is for forge. Remember? 2 more things.

  1. I love Recon, Especially the Base Version.

  2. I have a game-type where you have no weapons. I didn’t make it though.

i like it

I’m not crazy about the number of buttons you have to deal with when lowering your weapon. It should be simplified for Halo 4, like just hold down RT and LT at the same time or something.

> > YOURE TEH N00B USING RECON!!! nah i used to use when first played reach but yeah, that would be great for machinima and would you press up to bring it back up? i think you should be able to spawn withno weapons aswell and have to find them? that would help machinima as well me thinks
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> To put up your weapon, you press RT. Up on D-Pad is for forge. Remember? 2 more things.
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> 1. I love Recon, Especially the Base Version.
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> 2. I have a game-type where you have no weapons. I didn’t make it though.

i love RECON Base too! I have the UA/HUL[3] (you get with the RECON code) but i preferre bace.

> > YOURE TEH N00B USING RECON!!! nah i used to use when first played reach but yeah, that would be great for machinima and would you press up to bring it back up? i think you should be able to spawn withno weapons aswell and have to find them? that would help machinima as well me thinks
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> To put up your weapon, you press RT. Up on D-Pad is for forge. Remember? 2 more things.
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> 1. I love Recon, Especially the Base Version.
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> 2. I have a game-type where you have no weapons. I didn’t make it though.

RT would mean you shoot when you bring it up

1.both are awesome

2.its a modded gametype- i meant in custom games you set primary and secondary weapons to none- that way modded ones arent needed are they?

> > > YOURE TEH N00B USING RECON!!! nah i used to use when first played reach but yeah, that would be great for machinima and would you press up to bring it back up? i think you should be able to spawn withno weapons aswell and have to find them? that would help machinima as well me thinks
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> > To put up your weapon, you press RT. Up on D-Pad is for forge. Remember? 2 more things.
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> > 1. I love Recon, Especially the Base Version.
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> > 2. I have a game-type where you have no weapons. I didn’t make it though.
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> i love RECON Base too! I have the UA/HUL[3] (you get with the RECON code) but i preferre bace.

i think he meant control set that makes it more like halo 3(RB pick up weapons, use vehicles etc…)

> I’m not crazy about the number of buttons you have to deal with when lowering your weapon. It should be simplified for Halo 4, like just hold down RT and LT at the same time or something.

I believe that if we have 2 free buttons, we should be able to use them.