I’d just like to bring up something I’ve been thinking about for the past few days.
Remember when everyone was worried about the lack of a ranking system? I do. I remember asking 343i on numerous occasions to include one that makes sense. They didn’t.
Opponents of the ranking system (I still don’t understand why you would oppose something that doesn’t effect you) said that it was “just a pixel next to your name” and you shouldn’t need to see your rank to have fun.
But guess what? They are the ones complaining about the level-lock and EXP-cap!
Was your EXP capped for the day? Oh no! What will we do?!
Are you locked at level SR-70? Crikey, mate! Let’s complain on the forums!
I just find it hysterical that you all tried to squash the competitive community, yet you can’t play this game for more than five minutes without checking all your armor pieces, how much EXP you need to rank up, and which emblems are unlocked at which levels.
The reason people have issues with the XP cap is because its a flawed system that actually affects the game. Once you cap-out all XP earned goes nowhere, including stuff from commendations.
The lack of commendation XP is specifically the big issue to me. Because there’s no way to re-earn that, and that XP (even if capped) should still go towards your progression. Progression that can unlock stuff like new armor abilities or weapons (assuming you’re lower level) or new specializations. Aka - things that actually impact the game, not a silly little meaningless rank number.
> Apples/Oranges.
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> The reason people have issues with the XP cap is because its a flawed system that actually affects the game. Once you cap-out all XP earned goes nowhere, including stuff from commendations.
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> The lack of commendation XP is specifically the big issue to me. Because there’s no way to re-earn that, and that XP (even if capped) should still go towards your progression. Progression that can unlock stuff like new armor abilities or weapons (assuming you’re lower level) or new specializations. Aka - things that actually impact the game, not a silly little meaningless rank number.
It’s still a meaningless number in the progression system. You only get a game-changing ability every 10 levels, and only a few are actually valuable enough to actually warrant a complaint.
That does not change that people are still complaining over a meaningless number next to their name.
> > Apples/Oranges.
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> > The reason people have issues with the XP cap is because its a flawed system that actually affects the game. Once you cap-out all XP earned goes nowhere, including stuff from commendations.
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> > The lack of commendation XP is specifically the big issue to me. Because there’s no way to re-earn that, and that XP (even if capped) should still go towards your progression. Progression that can unlock stuff like new armor abilities or weapons (assuming you’re lower level) or new specializations. Aka - things that actually impact the game, not a silly little meaningless rank number.
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> It’s still a meaningless number in the progression system. You only get a game-changing ability every 10 levels, and only a few are actually valuable enough to actually warrant a complaint.
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> That does not change that people are still complaining over a meaningless number next to their name.
I’m just talking theoretical. Lets say you’re close to being able to get a new specialization, and you cap out. Lets say you play another game after that and you achieve Spartan Slayer-Distinguished or something that would normally give you enough XP to put you over the top and reach your next specialization.
But now you cant do that, because whatever amount of XP that would have already gone towards that no longer does and is lost forever. That’s actually affecting the game.
Affecting gameplay (even minorly) is still a vast difference between never affecting gameplay ever.
Right, you can’t get your Commendation EXP back. But guess what you can do? Play the damn game again.
I guarantee that you could probably earn just as much EXP from a Commendation as you would in 2-3 games without it. Seriously. It doesn’t matter.
The rewards in this game are pointless anyways. I personally use one loadout, with the same thing every game. BR and DMR, Frag, Ammo perk, Promethean Vision.
I don’t understand why they think the ranking system is fun or necessary.
> I’d just like to bring up something I’ve been thinking about for the past few days.
>
> Remember when everyone was worried about the lack of a ranking system? I do. I remember asking 343i on numerous occasions to include one that makes sense. They didn’t.
>
> Opponents of the ranking system (I still don’t understand why you would oppose something that doesn’t effect you) said that it was “just a pixel next to your name” and you shouldn’t need to see your rank to have fun.
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> But guess what? <mark>They are the ones complaining about the level-lock and EXP-cap!</mark>
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> Was your EXP capped for the day? Oh no! What will we do?!
> Are you locked at level SR-70? Crikey, mate! Let’s complain on the forums!
>
> I just find it hysterical that you all tried to squash the competitive community, yet you can’t play this game for more than five minutes without checking all your armor pieces, how much EXP you need to rank up, and which emblems are unlocked at which levels.
You’ve got a mass public survey going?
Cause I can’t see how you could possibly figure that out without literally pulling it out of your a-hole.
> Right, you can’t get your Commendation EXP back. But guess what you can do? Play the damn game again.
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> I guarantee that you could probably earn just as much EXP from a Commendation as you would in 2-3 games without it. Seriously. It doesn’t matter.
>
> The rewards in this game are pointless anyways. I personally use one loadout, with the same thing every game. BR and DMR, Frag, Ammo perk, Promethean Vision.
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> I don’t understand why they think the ranking system is fun or necessary.
Spartan Slayer Master is 10,000 XP. You arent earning that in 2 or 3 games.
> > Right, you can’t get your Commendation EXP back. But guess what you can do? Play the damn game again.
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> > I guarantee that you could probably earn just as much EXP from a Commendation as you would in 2-3 games without it. Seriously. It doesn’t matter.
> >
> > The rewards in this game are pointless anyways. I personally use one loadout, with the same thing every game. BR and DMR, Frag, Ammo perk, Promethean Vision.
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> > I don’t understand why they think the ranking system is fun or necessary.
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> Spartan Slayer Master is 10,000 XP. You arent earning that in 2 or 3 games.
One game of Spartan Ops with double XP gets me 11,900.
Well, if you want to get super technical about this, the level lock/Exp Cap is a very different type of issue.
I’m one of the guys who sees the Ranking system as ‘Important, but there are bigger fish to fry’ in the ultimate order of things. Lack of Fileshare support along with making sure the community can properly adjust to everything about the game is important. Hell - There are still people who think thrust pack is useless and Hardlight shield doesn’t do anything useful.
The Rank Lock isn’t a matter of ‘WAAAH! MY NUMBER!!!’. It is a matter of being punished for playing. I don’t know if you are aware, but ALL the XP and Commendation awards you chalk up after you hit 70 are NEVER going to be awarded to you. If you finish some important commendations after maxing out you wont be rewarded for something you would have been otherwise.
The Rank Lock is just a problem in 343i’s execution. They should have had it set so they could softpatch everyone instead of needing a code to be emailed. They should have had a sort of ‘backlog’ for Commendation awards that gives you that valuable XP you earned with THEIR challenges and commendations the next time it is possible for you to rank up.
And then finally, the EXP Cap, is an easy one to misunderstand too. It is much the same as the Cap problem. 343i has a gameplay feature that is actually punishing people for playing the hell out of the game. Do you think a Double XP event was really wise if they didn’t want people getting more then a certain amount every day? Why would they want the best players to only be on a few hours before hitting the XP Cap and having to log off? Just like before, all XP earned after the cap is lost forever. Including commendation, which can be a substantial reward. All that just lost.
In a perfect world all three issues would be resolved.
>Ranking system based on Elo and SHOWING your Elo as opposed to a vague 1-50 (Showing players an exact elo is a good thing. The enthusiasts would learn to really appreciate it.)
>The Specializations would have been soft patched seamlessly. People would have woke up with more options one day.
>The XP cap would either be substantially higher or nonexistant. Punishing people for playing is ridiculous.
> I’d just like to bring up something I’ve been thinking about for the past few days.
>
> Remember when everyone was worried about the lack of a ranking system? I do. I remember asking 343i on numerous occasions to include one that makes sense. They didn’t.
>
> Opponents of the ranking system (I still don’t understand why you would oppose something that doesn’t effect you) said that it was “just a pixel next to your name” and you shouldn’t need to see your rank to have fun.
>
> But guess what? They are the ones complaining about the level-lock and EXP-cap!
>
> Was your EXP capped for the day? Oh no! What will we do?!
> Are you locked at level SR-70? Crikey, mate! Let’s complain on the forums!
>
> I just find it hysterical that you all tried to squash the competitive community, yet you can’t play this game for more than five minutes without checking all your armor pieces, how much EXP you need to rank up, and which emblems are unlocked at which levels.
Who says it was only those against the ranking system complaining about the XP cap? You seem to be assuming that nobody complaining about the cap wanted a ranking system…
> > Spartan Slayer Master is 10,000 XP. You arent earning that in 2 or 3 games.
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> Yeah, you will need to play whole 4 games in order to hit 10000XP, since you only make 2700-2900XP per match.
Hey! They said 2 or 3 games, not 4! I’m holding them to that
But in general, I think people would gripe about the daily XP cap less if commendations weren’t effectively made worthless in the process.
> > > Spartan Slayer Master is 10,000 XP. You arent earning that in 2 or 3 games.
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> > Yeah, you will need to play whole 4 games in order to hit 10000XP, since you only make 2700-2900XP per match.
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> Hey! They said 2 or 3 games, not 4! I’m holding them to that
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> But in general, I think people would gripe about the daily XP cap less if commendations weren’t effectively made worthless in the process.
I agree with that. Commendations should still award XP even after XP cap.
There are a whole bunch of reasons to come to the official forums and complain about HALO 4, because there just so many problems with it, 3 weeks after launch
You have constant server issues, either disconnecting you or forgetting the items and codes you have redeemed, resetting load outs, LAG with poor regional filtering and Spartan Ops. Well Spartan Ops as advertised as a weekly episodic series which you would download to your console to play, except, nothing is downloaded, everything is played and access online…even the videos for each episode are streamed to your console. Which means you dont actually own Spartan Ops, you cant play it off line
So, people are rightfully complaining about this game, and 343i are oh so very quiet, no acknowledgement of the issues being raised on the forums, nothing when enquired over social media about the problems and MS support are next to useless
Then you have people complaining about being stuck at level SR70 and cant level up anymore due to being locked out of Specialisations…well, the Americans are complaining about this, because most of those complaining, are still rinsing the poorly thought out boosting via Double XP Promotion which was US only, so a whole bunch of users have boosted their XP far faster then 343i planned when they restricted the specialisations availability
But then to have a daily XP cap but still allow for commendations to be earned meaning if you carry on playing past the XP cap you are giving up on any XP you earn from those Commendations…brilliant idea, come up with a Level Cap that will encourage gamers to stop playing your game
as for the ranking system…well. will it mean anything, only to those who think its important…but but with a system still broken for so many people so long after launch and online numbers already starting to drop as people get fed up of the issues and lack of new content already…I would say people have a right to complain
