I am really sad saying this but if the game is released close to what the flight is currently with how the weapons work, I am not sure it is going to last at least for me.
Tonight is my first time playing the flight and after 2 hours I am already bored. The maps seem okay. However, the hit reg is bad, the AR is soooooooo boring as it takes zero skill to use and almost all weapons on the map are pointless.
I have loved every multiplayer apart from 5 (yes even 4) but not sure whether I am going to enjoy this one based on gunplay alone. The game looks nice too but runs so bad on PC.
What are people thinking on this?
Am I the only one feeling like this? Let me know!
I think they will nerf the AR because of all the feedback, but then all the other guns feel so clunky it’s going to become painful to play rather than boring. If they nerf the AR and also fix the aiming I think it has potential to be a great halo
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> I think they will nerf the AR because of all the feedback, but then all the other guns feel so clunky it’s going to become painful to play rather than boring. If they nerf the AR and also fix the aiming I think it has potential to be a great halo
This I think I can agree with. I think a lot of my issues were simply from the weird Aim Assist coming and going.
Since the AR is a heavily controversial topic, my solution to fix it is to remove the headshot multiplier, and reduce the range. Doing those two will make the AR more balanced against other weapons while lowering the TTK. TTK is so high because of the AR. Fixing that makes this game essentially perfect aside from fixing the radar and buffing warthogs health by like 15%
I still find it strange that after so many years of the DMR or BR reigning supreme with constant complaints about the weak AR, that we finally get a NON-weak AR and everyone’s first reaction is to moan about it being ‘overpowered’ and ‘skillless’ to use. Fine lines must not exist or something when it comes to the AR, I personally think it’s fine, though the hit reg’s need desperate attention to them. I stopped even trying to use anything other than the AR, Pistol, and occasional Rocket Launcher because the BR and Commando’-Yoink!- reg are atrocious. Everyone else seems to use them just fine, but when I pick them up, shot after shot I lay into the heads of my enemies and the game really tells me ‘I don’t think so’.
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> Since the AR is a heavily controversial topic, my solution to fix it is to remove the headshot multiplier, and reduce the range. Doing those two will make the AR more balanced against other weapons while lowering the TTK. TTK is so high because of the AR. Fixing that makes this game essentially perfect aside from fixing the radar and buffing warthogs health by like 15%
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> I still find it strange that after so many years of the DMR or BR reigning supreme with constant complaints about the weak AR, that we finally get a NON-weak AR and everyone’s first reaction is to moan about it being ‘overpowered’ and ‘skillless’ to use. Fine lines must not exist or something when it comes to the AR, I personally think it’s fine, though the hit reg’s need desperate attention to them. I stopped even trying to use anything other than the AR, Pistol, and occasional Rocket Launcher because the BR and Commando’-Yoink!- reg are atrocious. Everyone else seems to use them just fine, but when I pick them up, shot after shot I lay into the heads of my enemies and the game really tells me ‘I don’t think so’.
See, I have always loved precision guns and was obsessed with the comp scene back on halo 3/reach so I am always going to prefer the precision weapons as they require more skill and teamwork. AR aiming for me is a little too easy for it to be fun.
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> I am really sad saying this but if the game is released close to what the flight is currently with how the weapons work, I am not sure it is going to last at least for me.
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> Tonight is my first time playing the flight and after 2 hours I am already bored. The maps seem okay. However, the hit reg is bad, the AR is soooooooo boring as it takes zero skill to use and almost all weapons on the map are pointless.
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> I have loved every multiplayer apart from 5 (yes even 4) but not sure whether I am going to enjoy this one based on gunplay alone. The game looks nice too but runs so bad on PC.
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> What are people thinking on this?
> Am I the only one feeling like this? Let me know!
Just wait for them to bring back the classic modes like Btb, Oddball, griff ball (if that’s even possible with the new gravity hammer?), firefight, infection.
3 days of slayer can get pretty boring… playing the zones and capture the flag yesterday was a lot more fun, although I’m still going to wait for capture the flag on the big maps with warthogs and stuff
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> I am really sad saying this but if the game is released close to what the flight is currently with how the weapons work, I am not sure it is going to last at least for me.
>
> Tonight is my first time playing the flight and after 2 hours I am already bored. The maps seem okay. However, the hit reg is bad, the AR is soooooooo boring as it takes zero skill to use and almost all weapons on the map are pointless.
>
> I have loved every multiplayer apart from 5 (yes even 4) but not sure whether I am going to enjoy this one based on gunplay alone. The game looks nice too but runs so bad on PC.
>
> What are people thinking on this?
> Am I the only one feeling like this? Let me know!
You lost me with H4, your opinion means nothing now.
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> Since the AR is a heavily controversial topic, my solution to fix it is to remove the headshot multiplier, and reduce the range. Doing those two will make the AR more balanced against other weapons while lowering the TTK. TTK is so high because of the AR. Fixing that makes this game essentially perfect aside from fixing the radar and buffing warthogs health by like 15%
Don’t forget the sidekick with some people somehow shooting all rounds in one second
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> > 2535470923494995;1:
> > I am really sad saying this but if the game is released close to what the flight is currently with how the weapons work, I am not sure it is going to last at least for me.
> >
> > Tonight is my first time playing the flight and after 2 hours I am already bored. The maps seem okay. However, the hit reg is bad, the AR is soooooooo boring as it takes zero skill to use and almost all weapons on the map are pointless.
> >
> > I have loved every multiplayer apart from 5 (yes even 4) but not sure whether I am going to enjoy this one based on gunplay alone. The game looks nice too but runs so bad on PC.
> >
> > What are people thinking on this?
> > Am I the only one feeling like this? Let me know!
>
> You lost me with H4, your opinion means nothing now.
Give me your thoughts on Infinite? I knew I would get a rise about H4 hahah
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> I still find it strange that after so many years of the DMR or BR reigning supreme with constant complaints about the weak AR, that we finally get a NON-weak AR and everyone’s first reaction is to moan about it being ‘overpowered’ and ‘skillless’ to use.
This is such a fallacy, it’s ridiculous. How do you know that everyone complaining about the AR in its current state was complaining about it being too weak in previous titles?? You don’t, and to suggest that they’re all the same people is absurd. In fact it’s much more likely that most people have always been on one side or the other, and only a very small minority have changed that stance.
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> > I still find it strange that after so many years of the DMR or BR reigning supreme with constant complaints about the weak AR, that we finally get a NON-weak AR and everyone’s first reaction is to moan about it being ‘overpowered’ and ‘skillless’ to use. Fine lines must not exist or something when it comes to the AR, I personally think it’s fine, though the hit reg’s need desperate attention to them. I stopped even trying to use anything other than the AR, Pistol, and occasional Rocket Launcher because the BR and Commando’-Yoink!- reg are atrocious. Everyone else seems to use them just fine, but when I pick them up, shot after shot I lay into the heads of my enemies and the game really tells me ‘I don’t think so’.
>
> See, I have always loved precision guns and was obsessed with the comp scene back on halo 3/reach so I am always going to prefer the precision weapons as they require more skill and teamwork. AR aiming for me is a little too easy for it to be fun.
I mean, we’re all just assuming that AR is gonna be the ‘norm’ for social matches, it could just be that 343 wants us to try the new AR they’ve been working on. We’ll have to wait and see when the game drops.
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> > I still find it strange that after so many years of the DMR or BR reigning supreme with constant complaints about the weak AR, that we finally get a NON-weak AR and everyone’s first reaction is to moan about it being ‘overpowered’ and ‘skillless’ to use.
>
> This is such a fallacy, it’s ridiculous. How do you know that everyone complaining about the AR in its current state was complaining about it being too weak in previous titles?? You don’t, and to suggest that they’re all the same people is absurd. In fact it’s much more likely that most people have always been on one side or the other, and only a very small minority have changed that stance.
When topics about previous iterations is 99% “it’s garbage” or “it may as well not exist”, little hard to think otherwise. The old AR was a spitball machine gun, you wasted more ammo just trying to chew down enemies than with any other weapon. So unless you have statistics to prove otherwise, how about not calling me out when you likely can’t back up your own claims? Unless of course, you have some concrete evidence?
Well after having access to forge, custom games, campaign and firefight for year of course you will be bored in a pre release build that has half the weapons a fraction of the maps and two vehicles. Stop whining.
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> > > I still find it strange that after so many years of the DMR or BR reigning supreme with constant complaints about the weak AR, that we finally get a NON-weak AR and everyone’s first reaction is to moan about it being ‘overpowered’ and ‘skillless’ to use.
> >
> > This is such a fallacy, it’s ridiculous. How do you know that everyone complaining about the AR in its current state was complaining about it being too weak in previous titles?? You don’t, and to suggest that they’re all the same people is absurd. In fact it’s much more likely that most people have always been on one side or the other, and only a very small minority have changed that stance.
>
> When topics about previous iterations is 99% “it’s garbage” or “it may as well not exist”, little hard to think otherwise. The old AR was a spitball machine gun, you wasted more ammo just trying to chew down enemies than with any other weapon. So unless you have statistics to prove otherwise, how about not calling me out when you likely can’t back up your own claims? Unless of course, you have some concrete evidence?
I’m sorry, what are you trying to prove exactly? Do you genuinely believe the people most upset with the AR at the moment were the ones who made those threads? Because that’s hilarious if that’s the case. I don’t have stats, but then I’m not the one making absurd assumptions about the opinions of the fanbase.
Also, why are you trying to explain to me how bad the AR used to be? I literally never said anything about the balance of the game. You need better reading comprehension.
For the record, I’m in the camp that likes the current AR.
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> > > > 2533274879757912;7:
> > > > I still find it strange that after so many years of the DMR or BR reigning supreme with constant complaints about the weak AR, that we finally get a NON-weak AR and everyone’s first reaction is to moan about it being ‘overpowered’ and ‘skillless’ to use.
> > >
> > > This is such a fallacy, it’s ridiculous. How do you know that everyone complaining about the AR in its current state was complaining about it being too weak in previous titles?? You don’t, and to suggest that they’re all the same people is absurd. In fact it’s much more likely that most people have always been on one side or the other, and only a very small minority have changed that stance.
> >
> > When topics about previous iterations is 99% “it’s garbage” or “it may as well not exist”, little hard to think otherwise. The old AR was a spitball machine gun, you wasted more ammo just trying to chew down enemies than with any other weapon. So unless you have statistics to prove otherwise, how about not calling me out when you likely can’t back up your own claims? Unless of course, you have some concrete evidence?
>
> I’m sorry, what are you trying to prove exactly? Do you genuinely believe the people most upset with the AR at the moment were the ones who made those threads? Because that’s hilarious if that’s the case. I don’t have stats, but then I’m not the one making absurd assumptions about the opinions of the fanbase.
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> Also, why are you trying to explain to me how bad the AR used to be? I literally never said anything about the balance of the game. You need better reading comprehension.
>
> For the record, I’m in the camp that likes the current AR.
Trying to prove? Nothing really, I’m just curious as to why you feel you can call someone out, but have nothing to back yourself up. I could care less if you are for or against the new AR. I stated what I have heard, that honestly is it, you’re the one who came at me, not the other way around. And by the way, when I say that ‘topics are 99%’ about how bad it is, I’m talking about conversations and opinions from youtube videos, not forum posts. Most of the time people talk about the AR in videos, they have nothing good to say about the old ones.