LOL Forge still completely broken

So, now instead of just one shot kill on a group of units without a direct hit, he now one shots them all into red health without a direct hit. We waited 3 weeks for them to do virtually nothing. I’m asking a serious question do they not have any play testers at all? There’s no way anybody with even the most basic of skill level plays with that and says to themselves “Now that’s balanced.”

When I read the patch notes, I thought it was useless. Every leader except forge can be killed by T1 units. Snipers mainly can wreck leaders. Except Forge. To me, he should be available at T2 or reduce his speed to that of the bison. Don’t let him just hit and run.

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> When I read the patch notes, I thought it was useless. Every leader except forge can be killed by T1 units. Snipers mainly can wreck leaders. Except Forge. To me, he should be available at T2 or reduce his speed to that of the bison. Don’t let him just hit and run.

Bison can’t be killed by snipers but I see your point.

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> > When I read the patch notes, I thought it was useless. Every leader except forge can be killed by T1 units. Snipers mainly can wreck leaders. Except Forge. To me, he should be available at T2 or reduce his speed to that of the bison. Don’t let him just hit and run.
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> Bison can’t be killed by snipers but I see your point.

Bison can be out manovered

Forge seems fine.

After watching the YapYap reveal 343i doesn’t seem to know their own game very well. Did you guys see it? They seriously didn’t seem to be all that familiar with him. They just cut the stream short so they could play airhockey or something.

Does anybody know if Forge hog is considered a “T2” unit, thus anti-vehicle units do less damage to him now?

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> Does anybody know if Forge hog is considered a “T2” unit, thus anti-vehicle units do less damage to him now?

Heroes are their own thing. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t count as a warthog but rather a unit with a unique armor type. He shouldn’t benefit from the AV change, though I could be mistaken.

Bison is OP too. There are people comparing Forgehog to Spartans LOL. Blows my mind.

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> After watching the YapYap reveal 343i doesn’t seem to know their own game very well. Did you guys see it? They seriously didn’t seem to be all that familiar with him. They just cut the stream short so they could play airhockey or something.

My thought exactly they kept having to read the names of the leader wheel and at didn’t really know what each did till they read them

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> > After watching the YapYap reveal 343i doesn’t seem to know their own game very well. Did you guys see it? They seriously didn’t seem to be all that familiar with him. They just cut the stream short so they could play airhockey or something.
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> My thought exactly they kept having to read the names of the leader wheel and at didn’t really know what each did till they read them

I don’t think ske7ch or Grim are involved in developing the game at all really, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t 100% know everything or how everything works.

If it was a game tester that didn’t know that would be a different story.

I can easily kill the Forgehog with Decimus. The Warlord attracts him, the choppers ram the Forgehog, and when the shield is down, I’ll put Vortex on Him. This way, every hero can be kill easily.

Edit.

Warlord + Chopper + Vortex Opening is really strong.

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> > 2533274860730132;10:
> > > 2716903703776124;6:
> > > After watching the YapYap reveal 343i doesn’t seem to know their own game very well. Did you guys see it? They seriously didn’t seem to be all that familiar with him. They just cut the stream short so they could play airhockey or something.
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> > My thought exactly they kept having to read the names of the leader wheel and at didn’t really know what each did till they read them
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> I don’t think ske7ch or Grim are involved in developing the game at all really, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t 100% know everything or how everything works.
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> If it was a game tester that didn’t know that would be a different story.

In my opinion they should have taken 20 minutes and memorized the information i could have easily and if that wouldn’t work make flash cards

The world is on fire!

Forge is fine… Git gud

There’s way too much unnecessary talking in this fórum. Not attacking the OP, i respect your points and your right of speaking.

I’m not being personal to anybody here. But open the ‘Halo Wars 2’ page in the fórum and you’ll see that the first posts are: “this is OP”, “this is unplayable”, “343i didn’t test that”, “forge is that…”, “they didn’t change that”. I thought this game was directed to mature people. That’s a RTS. I repeat, as i said in another post: all the efforts are directed to complain about something. I don’t see posts like “strategy for…”, “build order for…”, “amazing strategy for that…”, “suggestions for that…”.

As some guys said in this post: everything looks fine to me, just ‘git gud’. This is a strategy game, you’re supposed to think and overcome the obstacles in order to succeed. That’s not hit and play, you gotta struggle and think. There aren’t even 24h that the patch was released and there are dozens of posts complaining about everything. It makes no sense at all. Just trying to bring a reflection to these that complain all the time and don’t play the game. I suggest you guys to play the game and start thinking and finding your own strategies and stop concentrating your mind in your failures. Just play the game and get good on it. I repeat, I’m not attacking those that are in this negative vibe, i do respect, but try to think again before making a post sayin that somethin is OP before even testing something. Success takes repetition.

Kyltz.

I’ve not played since the patch dropped - so my comments are purely based on the overall structure of the game, not calling for specific nerfs / buffs.
The main issue with Forge (and Serina) is not necessarily that they are OP but the fact that they are vehicles and in the rock / scissor / paper equation should be beating infantry. But in the current selection of heroes, there are only rocks (most of the leaders) and scissors (Forge and Serina).

Would the obvious solution not be to introduce a new leader with an air based hero?

The rest of the game is, overall, relatively well balanced in my opinion apart from the heroes - but instead of just tweaking existing variables, bring in someone who can legitimately attack the 'hog or icecream truck.

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> There’s way too much unnecessary talking in this fórum. Not attacking the OP, i respect your points and your right of speaking.
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> I’m not being personal to anybody here. But open the ‘Halo Wars 2’ page in the fórum and you’ll see that the first posts are: “this is OP”, “this is unplayable”, “343i didn’t test that”, “forge is that…”, “they didn’t change that”. I thought this game was directed to mature people. That’s a RTS. I repeat, as i said in another post: all the efforts are directed to complain about something. I don’t see posts like “strategy for…”, “build order for…”, “amazing strategy for that…”, “suggestions for that…”.
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> As some guys said in this post: everything looks fine to me, just ‘git gud’. This is a strategy game, you’re supposed to think and overcome the obstacles in order to succeed. That’s not hit and play, you gotta struggle and think. There aren’t even 24h that the patch was released and there are dozens of posts complaining about everything. It makes no sense at all. Just trying to bring a reflection to these that complain all the time and don’t play the game. I suggest you guys to play the game and start thinking and finding your own strategies and stop concentrating your mind in your failures. Just play the game and get good on it. I repeat, I’m not attacking those that are in this negative vibe, i do respect, but try to think again before making a post sayin that somethin is OP before even testing something. Success takes repetition.
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> Kyltz.

Well the fact that their game still is not balanced is a bigger issue to most than discussing statagy I mean if you want to play leaders like Johnson kinsono isabell or anders you are already handicapped due to the lack of effectiveness and I would like to point out that the main reason people complain about balance is because they have not been able to balance a single season

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> After watching the YapYap reveal 343i doesn’t seem to know their own game very well. Did you guys see it? They seriously didn’t seem to be all that familiar with him. They just cut the stream short so they could play airhockey or something.

That reveal was terribly unprofessional

> 2533274899499504;15:
> There’s way too much unnecessary talking in this fórum. Not attacking the OP, i respect your points and your right of speaking.
>
> I’m not being personal to anybody here. But open the ‘Halo Wars 2’ page in the fórum and you’ll see that the first posts are: “this is OP”, “this is unplayable”, “343i didn’t test that”, “forge is that…”, “they didn’t change that”. I thought this game was directed to mature people. That’s a RTS. I repeat, as i said in another post: all the efforts are directed to complain about something. I don’t see posts like “strategy for…”, “build order for…”, “amazing strategy for that…”, “suggestions for that…”.
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> As some guys said in this post: everything looks fine to me, just ‘git gud’. This is a strategy game, you’re supposed to think and overcome the obstacles in order to succeed. That’s not hit and play, you gotta struggle and think. There aren’t even 24h that the patch was released and there are dozens of posts complaining about everything. It makes no sense at all. Just trying to bring a reflection to these that complain all the time and don’t play the game. I suggest you guys to play the game and start thinking and finding your own strategies and stop concentrating your mind in your failures. Just play the game and get good on it. I repeat, I’m not attacking those that are in this negative vibe, i do respect, but try to think again before making a post sayin that somethin is OP before even testing something. Success takes repetition.
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> Kyltz.

Yes. This. Thank you. Looks like an adult finally logged on.

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> I can easily kill the Forgehog with Decimus. The Warlord attracts him, the choppers ram the Forgehog, and when the shield is down, I’ll put Vortex on Him. This way, every hero can be kill easily.
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> Edit.
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> Warlord + Chopper + Vortex Opening is really strong.

Yeah, this has been known for 2 weeks now…